Many people who left comment here seemed to judge the whole series too quickly after just 30% into the entire…
Interesting synopsis. I can agree on many points. But in the totality of it all, whether or not it was meant as a "rape" I believe is irrelevant. Many BL's slide that slippery slope for dramatic effect. IMO, it's not good either way to series to portray the acceptance of characters that intentionally take sexual advantage of others, who apparently don't possess the ability to provide "consent." And, unfortunately, it's a common theme in BLs. As for your analysis of Fu Yongjie, very interesting, and I can agree with much of it. I would like to add a bit to his character: a) he made a key and broke into his brother's apartment; b) he stalked his brother for what appeared to be quite a lengthy period of time; c) he attacked one of his brother's roommate's without provocation, presumably due to jealousy/possessiveness; and d) he took sexual advantage of his brother while the brother was in an inebriated state (that he admittedly confessed that he caused and for the purpose of "making his brother his"). Love his brother or not, that's some serious psychopathology in this drama . LOL
I've been thinking about the discussions on incest and drunk rape, trying find a 'neutral' thinking.Incest seems…
Wow! Interesting analysis! I'm not really sure if I agree or disagree. I do believe you've posed some interesting points. Let's take the incest issue first. According to the western definition of incest, "incest is sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry..." And, most western cultures agree with and/or accept this definition, even if they may deal with the incest differently within their cultures (to many of those cultures, it's a crime). I'm unsure about the Asiatic cultures (to which there are NO significant western cultural influence). So, I can't comment intelligently on those cultures.
Now, as for the idea of the "drunk rape," I agree with you that many countries (and/or cultures) are unable to agree on an common definition. However, many western cultures (and several Asiatic cultures with strong western influence) have begun to recognize the complexities of sexual assault and have commonly (if not legally) agreed that "the assault occurs when one of the parties is unable, for whatever reason, (underaged, unconscious, under the influence, has a disability, confinement, or saying "no", etc.) to give "consent." Hmmm! It seems that the scene in question might fit that definition. Aahh! But, Thailand isn't a western culture.
I truly hope that this series deals with the violence foretold in this first ep. I realize that these are dramas and don't necessarily have to be politically correct. But, the series can be just as dramatic without the trope of all the defenseless students in the school being beaten-up every other day. Jeez!!
??? You like that the bullies have a reason for beating up people?? OK. I'm missing something. There's actually reasons for bullying other people???? Just in case you missed it, I'm being sarcastic.....
The series was going ok, up until the "drunken rape" trope. It's so sad, IMO, that now the Taiwanese BLs are using the old stand-by stereotypic, tropic plot lines that had befallen many of the Thai BLs of the past. What makes it even worse is that the HIStory series was kind of ahead of the game with what could be more positive views of lgbtq+ relationships. I guess they've also fallen prey to the money and exposure these kinds of BL series can generate. I will no longer watch the relationship between the two step-brothers and simply concentrate on the other two characters. Relationships born out of sexual assault are not good, no matter how "romantic" the series tries to portray it.
Personally, I'm ready for more Shi Yu and Bing Wei and Pei Shou Yi and Zhen Xuan. Their relationships seem to have a more characterization that the Shu Yi and Gai Shi De. But, alas, with only a handful of eps to go, there probably isn't enough time to devote to the secondary couples. I also didn't like the way they just glossed over the sex scene. Lazy writing in my opinion.
I think the episode was objectively bad, because it abandoned the character-driven nature of the story in favor…
Okay. You do have a point. I believe (although I'm not totally positive) that most posts were reacting to the Tian/Villagers scene and neglected the rest of the ep. I have agree that it was a bit choppy and sporadic, and hurried in the middle. It may be that they're trying to wrap the rest of story in-line with the novel. Maybe they needed to have more eps. I'm not quite sure.
I thought the episode was fantastic, too. I cried like a baby, again. No series has moved me to tears as often…
I know a lot of folks didn't like it -- but, I was also moved to tears with certain eps. from Until We Meet Again. IMO, it was a different take on the reincarnation theme.
I'm sorry. But, I have to agree with many of the posters. This season is getting weaker and weaker by the episode. I see they totally glossed over the drunken sex-rape scene for a more quai-dramatic, "my boyfriend made a secret deal with my dad" scene. Both scenes are cliche, overused, and tropish. I think this show is definitely suffering from lazy writing. However, I was a bit encouraged by the characters of the cousin and the individual with Aspberger's syndrome, as well as the potential of seeing more of Shu Yi's assistants Bing Wei and Zhe Yu .
I largely agree except for the Doc. I was in the nursing profession for long time and that was a major violation…
If we were to give the writers the benefit of the doubt (what a stretch), could it be possible the writers were intentionally ignoring standard healthcare protocols to show how "provincial" life in Pap Pen Dao village is?
Now, as for the idea of the "drunk rape," I agree with you that many countries (and/or cultures) are unable to agree on an common definition. However, many western cultures (and several Asiatic cultures with strong western influence) have begun to recognize the complexities of sexual assault and have commonly (if not legally) agreed that "the assault occurs when one of the parties is unable, for whatever reason, (underaged, unconscious, under the influence, has a disability, confinement, or saying "no", etc.) to give "consent." Hmmm! It seems that the scene in question might fit that definition. Aahh! But, Thailand isn't a western culture.