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I love how so many relationships honestly just mirror respect for one another. So I agree as well with that. I just enjoy seeing the deeper connection between these two other than what we're used to in normal romantic dramas. It's refreshing to stop thinking about the physical and focus instead on everything else between people :)

Ohh, that makes sense! I disagree, but it's interesting to see different perspectives. I guess cuz since i'm also more on the asexual side of things, to me it did feel very developed between them. You don't always just fall in love with someone after you've acknowledged your feelings to someone, I think often times you fall in love without saying a word to the one you love and that's personally what I saw here. They both had become so close and comfortable around one another and had been through so much growth as individuals and partners, so they are passed the initial attraction or crush phase of a friendship-turned-romantic relationship. It's deeper and more intimate. I just find it so wholesome and cute! Especially the way they always think of each other. If they are asexual, I'd say there wasn't much more left to develop to be something serious, except for actually communicating their love for one another. They've already found their happy place being together :)

They didn't communicate it to one another, but they definitely were in love imo. The side characters hinted at it a bunnnch too. It just wasn't a normal romance. It was one without skin contact or the usual passionate scenes. Instead it showed in their dependency of each other, respect for one another, and how much they thought of one another when the other wasn't around. By the end, it just shows in their complete trust--when FL leaves and ML knows she'll be back. It's just not what we're used to. It's romance without anything sexual. Platonic friends are a lot different imo :) asexuality isn't about just being platonic with everyone, there is still romance if you're not also aromantic.

I want to add that I normally only watch dramas for the romance, and even though it wasn't like other dramas, romance and falling in love is STILL in this drama. But it's not with skin contact or typical romantic scenes... it's how they learn each other and depend and think of one another in everything that they do. They love each other completely and respect one another just as much. There IS romance, it's just not a normative one and imo it was really wholesome and refreshing and I'm crying because it's so cute.

I don't think they were exactly platonic though. I think they were in love with each other, but our boy definitely on the asexual spectrum. He didn't seem to mind about staying a virgin. So I assume they are enjoying the relationship they do have.

The crying scenes and the overall emotional scenes are an entire ten out of ten. The acting was phenomenal in those parts. And the writing was so touching, heartbreaking, and hopeful all at the same time. But where the score fell for me was how it occasionally dragged and the boring business side of house selling lol. But it was seriously so good AND we accidentally got some asexual representation going on lol. Anyways, I'm crying, that was heartbreaking (but in a hope filled way). I gotta give it a 9/10 for those amazing emotional scenes, woooo, they got me crying my eyes out.

Wow I cannot type.

I meant: maybe JBY will be moved to a different BODY then instead lmao

True! Maybe JBY will be moved to a different building oft then, but idk how that would work with her divine powers. But maybe there is a way! Especially all the ‘save them both’ advice for the dilemmas between choosing.

I just REALLY hope Uk doesn’t sacrifice himself to save his master/Naksu (like she told him to at one point). I hope he fights to survive with Naksu at his side.

I think you are both right and wrong. I think there is more to strength than just one definition. What you explained is, of course, one type of strength and I agree with it. However, I don't think you are right about Naksu being weak for being mean in the first part.

To me, part 1 Naksu is my favourite because even after all she'd been through, she relied and trusted herself so completely and knew who she was... enough to allow herself to grow and not hold herself back in regards to her beliefs. Even while plotting revenge, she never closed herself off from the truth... she absorbed new information and changed with it while remaining true to herself. She also stood in front of others and demanded their respect when the time came to forgo her goofy acting, and people responded to it. Part 1 Naksu tried her hardest to not let love or anyone stand in her way of her goals (whether those goals were ill advised or not is obviously arguable lol) and I think a lot of dramas forgo that strength in women characters--the strength of refusing to let someone she loves choose her choices for her and become her main priority/goal. And seeing how it was received (not well, considering how much hate there is on her refusing to show her feelings at all) it's understandable why she might seem weak in part 1 (like her holding herself back from love was because she was scared or something). She has trust issues with others, she tries her best to be independent (even in her tricky situation with a body that refuses to work with her), puts herself first instead of sacrificing herself for others or even for the greater good, and would rather Uk dislike her and be strong than to love her and be useless to her. Harsh? YES. Strong though? Undeniably, in my opinion. And when she eventually succumbed to her feelings for Uk, even then she remained diligently Naksu. She never doubted or questioned herself. She just found more to believe in (Uk and their strength together).

Where part 1 Naksu ruthlessly used others to get what she wanted (survival/power), part 2 Naksu doesn't actually use anyone. She asks for their help and to be saved, and often returns the favour in some way. She clearly puts others and the greater good before herself (saving Yul and her 'sister' at the risk of herself) and that's because instead of trust issues or being raised to be independent, she's been raised (for the last three years) by a mother who clearly didn't love her and made her yearn for love and protection (in my opinion). They remain to both be Naksu at the heart of all things (they both push themselves forwards for their goals and don't let anything stand in their way), but their environments that created them created different strengths/weaknesses and fears/wants. The only thing that's missing from part 2 Naksu that would really connect her with her past self, is her trust in herself. Once she trusts in herself again, and knows who she is, I think we'll see a move even blend between the two distinctly different strengths.

oh shoot i meant Uks body *facepalm* sorry for the confusion. It could be Jang Uks body in that prison realm (since we dont know how time works there).

Yes, Naksu's body burnt, so if she does get her own separate body again that isn't JBYs body, im guessing it will be acquired like how master lee acquired his own body (putting a soul into a recently deceased body).

Yeah that’s who I was talking about when I said the mage from 200 years ago :) but knowing the Hong sisters, it could be anything! Including Naksu’s body (considering he’s able to get into that dimension).

There are a lot of parallels in the plot. So I definitely think there is something in part one that foretells part 2’s ending. Like Master Lee’s body burning and soul shifting (Naksu’s body burned too, so maybe someone will die and she’ll get shifted into that body). Obviously the 2nd ice stone will play a role. My first thought was that it was Uk in the future (idk how time works in the dimension) but it also might be the mage that was trapped there 200 years ago. Either way, I’m excited to see how everything plays out though I’m not holding my breath for a happy ending.

You raise good points but unfortunately the drama isn't about her. Meaning, she really has no personality that the watchers can become enthralled by like Naksu. Yes, Naksu is the bad guy in this, but that doesn't mean the audience is going to root for the good guy. We root for the person whom we feel for the most. Of course, thats not to say there aren't valid reasons why we SHOULD feel for JBY (and I'm sure we all feel for her a little bit at least), but there just seems to be a lot more reasons why we end up rooting for Naksu instead. And a large part of that, of course, is because we just spent 20+ episodes watching a love story unfold between Naksu and Uk--not Uk and JBY. To suddenly root for the passive girl is probably beyond what a lot of us can do. No matter how immoral it may be to hope for Naksu to win over a body that isn't even hers.

I'm not sure what you expect out of a rating system where people dictate the popularity of a show. It's not MLDs fault a lot of people like the same thing. I personally love it. But guess what? My rating doesn't represent something that is all wise and unfailing, just like any one else who isn't some film production pro lol. There's really no need to belittle anyone's taste or even the system because you disagree with the majority vote. Stats are stats, I'm not sure how it can be a joke when it's just numbers.

Love seeing how our ratings varied from each other. It's fun to see how other people view the dramas you loved or disliked. I'll definitely be adding some of these to my lists considering we had quite a few similar ratings :) I have a very small top recommended list on my profile and I think there might be a couple of dramas in it that weren't on this list of yours. Idk if you watched them and just didn't like them, but feel free to check it out since we seem to have some similar tastes!

They did it with A Korean Odyssey as well and I wanted to SCREAM. I'm almost certain it will be open. But I'm hoping for at least a *happy* or *optimistic* open ending ahhh

Maybe it's a memory of her blue marked eyes, rather than her actual eyes? Perhaps a stretch, but it could work considering it's the Hong Sisters we're talking about lol

Their souls just love each other through everything. It's so heartbreaking (in a good way) how much love they have for each other lol.

I'm rewatching the whole series and I just can't help myself... I absolutely love how dry Mudeok is. Like, I enjoy the new rendition of her in the newer season, but season one Mudeok is so cute and funny. I love how slow it takes her to warm up and even then she tries to put her goals before Uk. Like, yes, it's frustrating and I understand those that say they didn't enjoy the lack of chemistry in season one, but I seriously disagree. Her unwillingness makes it all the more special and adorable, because she can't help but love Uk even when she's hell bent on him not loving her back.

Idk, I just really enjoy her character. And I miss her. But I do love her new, innocent and unjaded version too. She's sweet. And Uk changed too, so he definitely could use the sweet version rather than the colder version of her. (But I also miss sweet Uk in season one--they totally swapped characters lol like they went and soul swapped accidentally). I hope its a happy ending for them.

For real. Season 1 was great though, and it had a good climatic scene with a well done ending that wrapped some things up--so I think there is some hope for the series as a whole to get wrapped up adequately enough. (fingers crossed!)