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I was torn by this too but I made peace with it because it became obvious early on that they had a connection and chemistry, and she was trying to pretend they didn't for her friend's sake but it was even obvious to Seung Ah.

As for the car scene, I think he was just curious to see how far he could make her take things. He didn't care about her, or himself, and I think he was encouraging her to kinda call her bluff and to get back at the Chaebol dude. Moo Young saw her as an annoyance and a burden and wanted to test her declaration that she would willingly lose everything and run away with him by saying "Don't get caught". He knew they were driving recklessly in the rain, and we assume he knew what the outcome could be, but it was them not him that caused the accident.

Technically Jin Kang wouldn't necessarily see him as being responsible for that crash either since he was in the accident too. She also doesn't know what he said to her in the car, so I think she just saw the whole accident as unfortunate, probably the Chaebol's fault, and she couldn't help but be worried about him being hurt or dead. Realizing that she can't stop being concerned about him made her eventually stop trying to resist him, and she chose to see the potential for a good guy in him. I think that's pretty realistic if you have ever liked someone you know damn well you have no business in the world liking.

I do think that if Seung Ah was alive she would never have considered being in a relationship with him. I also think a major part of Moo Young's character is his ability to get people to do things they wouldn't normally do by appealing to what he knows they really want.

Yesterday I kept listening to Star on repeat... sigh...

It's probably because I watched the Korean version first, but these Japanese characters seem super one dimensional, except for Ryo, and the plot seems more cheesy & campy than dark. The women characters are childish and very poorly written. The brother is pretty good, but he's also pretty smarmy, so I prefer the Kdrama brother, smiling to mask what's really dark about him, but I agree his actions would make more sense if they stuck to the sibling plot. I do think the relationships in the Korean version are much stronger, so they didn't need a sensationalized plot to get me hooked.

Maybe I'm speaking too soon, but because it's shorter I'm pretty close to the end already, and if I watched this version first I might have skipped the Korean version totally, so I'm glad I didn't.

I'm watching the JDrama one now, and although they obviously borrowed a lot from the Japanese version, I couldn't agree more!

I'm having a real problem with the female characters in this. I get that it's dated, but so far all of the women characters are ridiculous. All of them. *sigh*

I've loved both leads in other dramas so it's a shame that I'm so bored.

Maybe I've had too many horrible bosses, but I wasn't moved by Mr. Baek slapping himself. He owes himself a few more slaps in my opinion. Yes, the customer was a nightmare, and no one deserves that treatment, but karma comes in all forms... They keep hinting at some deep reason why he's a jerk but until they reveal it my sympathy for him is in short supply.

I think the 2L has been more honest and direct than pushy and she's actually been pretty vague by pretending he's "joking" when it's definitely obvious he is not. He should probably take the hint since she keeps coming up with dumb ways to turn him down indirectly, so I do agree with that, but he's just a much more likable character to me than the lead male, so it's frustrating to watch her not give him a chance.

I'm one of the people who just can't understand her being this into the boss. It's like she has a savior complex which is very annoying. She chooses to obsess over the guy who his a true jerk to everyone, and because now he's realizing he's not always right that's supposed to make me "ship" them? Maybe in a few more episodes I will see his appeal, but right now this seems like a set up for the worst relationship dynamic ever, complete with "I can fix him" delusions.

I know, but that still seems like a pretty weak reason to stab someone. Trying to avoid incest by any means necessary would’ve made much more sense to me.

Me too! So far the story is familiar but I definitely don't like the characters anywhere near as much as in the new Korean version.

Part of me feels like the story would make much more sense if they were actually siblings, at least explaining the brother's desperation to keep them apart, but I was definitely satisfied with the alternative they came up with. The "If onlys" definitely run deep with this one.

I just started watching the original now. It already seems like a much more standard melodrama, with lots of overacting, but it's interesting to see another take on the same characters and similar circumstances.

We are talking about a supporting character who is definitely insane!

I think you missed the point about him not reacting to being stabbed or his father's death. You have to remember that his whole point in getting the gun in the first place was to shoot the brother, but he didn't want JK to be hurt so he changed his mind. Shooting SR is the opposite. It's the only way for JK to not get hurt so he didn't hesitate.

I disagree and think Moo Young's actions make complete sense. He knows people well and how to manipulate them, and his defense against a world he doesn't trust has always been to act nonchalant and as if he is unbothered by everything.

Jin Kang is the only person who ever broke that pattern for him, so he just went back to who he's always been.

As for the incest thing, I think he thinks it's true from his own memory and went to Jang Se Ran just to confirm that she knew too. He didn't need a DNA test. I think he just wanted someone else to confirm what he knew while he was wrestling with the reality of it. He didn't reaize she would use fake info to manipulate his emotions for her amusement (which he wouldn't care much about), but also didn't think she would torture Jin Kang with that info (which is why she got shot).

Se Ran the psycho was amused by how easy he was to control when it came to Jin Kang, but her jealousy over how much he actually loved Jin Kang made her extra vicious and want to manipulate Jin Kang too to get a bigger rise out of Moo Young, not realizing that to protect Jin Kang he would not think twice about murdering her. I think he knew that killing her would be the only way to stop her since he knows how psychotic and powerful she is. So murdering her is actually "rational" if you don't care what happens to yourself.

We already know from his previous actions that he doesn't care much about his own life outide of Jin Kang.

The real jerk is the cop brother who could have resolved this by telling them they were related (biologically or not) but wanted to keep lying to Jin Kang about being her biological brother.

I'm so confused. I thought she lied because she suspected they were siblings, and then got happy because her suspicion was right based on his reaction. Unless they just happened to be in the same house growing up, but I thought he just went to her to confirm what he already remembered.

She's a psychopath so I don't think she could help but provoke him. I think she was also mad when he started showing he had feelings, which meant he wasn't who she thought he was, which would set her off more.

As soon as he went for the drawer I knew it was over for her.

Wait, did they confirm that they aren't? Did I miss that? I thought she said she lied to him but it was still true. I'm so confused.

Lee Soo Yeon is one of those rare stubborn kdrama characters that make stupid choices but I totally understand. Of course they play up his disability to be way worse than it would probably be in reality, but who would want to give up normal movement when it's that accessable, and has allowed him to feel "normal" and happy after a long time. It is quite the dilemma.

I almost got scared out of watching this over the hate posts about
Chae Soo Bin's character. I'm glad I didn't listen. I caught up in 3 days!!!