what is some people with AI? why do y'all hate it so much. y'all use it everyday too
Because it quite literally destroys the environment? Because it replaces real humans and takes creative novelty away from them as well as their jobs? Because it's mindless slop based off of algorithms and data?
Not everyone uses AI in their daily life. Some avoid it especially because they know of its impact. Just read a bit more about data centers and how many communities they've destroyed and you'll have a good insight on how harmful it is.
So I'm not the only one then 😭 I stopped watching the first episode halfway because of the whiplash and dichotomy of what I had in mind vs what I actually got and omg Do Hyeon is such a psychopath? His eyes seem so vacant and devoid of emotions that it's eerie (just finished watching ep 1 now). An earlier comment mentioned Secret relationship levels psychopath vibes and I was doubting it before but I can see why they said that now.
The NSFW scene at the beginning was kind of like the bone you'd dangle in front of a dog to get his attention 😭 It's like they had a very stereotypical image of what BL enjoyers prefer and just ran with it. At least that's what their intention behind adding the scene felt like to me, "we need to secure the fangirls within 10 seconds of the show starting so here's your 18+ scene, now stick around to find out whether there's more back where that came from 👀"
I mean, it did the job of establishing that Do Hyeon has very explicitly romantic feelings for Eun Ho right off the bat without any room for debate but it still felt a little shallow to me? Idk, maybe I'm reading too much into it. Inarguably, the opening definitely did have that "WOW" factor that leaves you flustered and keeps you watching.
I am shook. I was not prepared for that opening scene?!?! 😳 I thought it was gonna be cute and light and almost watched it with a friend, so glad I started this alone 😭
Dude the budget is crazyyyyyy It looks so good 😩 But I just know the makjang vibes in this are gonna be abysmal 😭 Gonna abstain from reading the webtoon before watching because it would take away the wow factor that comes exclusively from a first watch, will read after I'm done with the show <3
He looks like a combination of Thai actor Apo and Shun from the Japanese gay reality TV dating show "The Boyfriend." It's been throwing me off so much as I watch the Spirealm 😭
NO FUCKING WAY SHOWS LIKE THIS AND ASH ARE RATED EQUAL TO SHIT SHOWS LIKE KNOT AND RATED LESS THAN BE MY PLAYER…
I think the audience watching those shows (Knot the series etc) and rating them highly are widely different than the ones that enjoy shows like Connecting to you. We know what we like already and hence avoid shows that don't interest us whereas the viewers from other shows might be dabbling around and giving lower ratings to things that aren't as overblown in terms of romance as the ones that they're used to seeing (I'm trying to be very careful with my wording.) I know it's a bummer, but we can't really do anything in front of masses. Spreading the word and just leaving good comments weekly would be the most effective. Just try to enjoy your time here with fellow watchers <3
I'd recommend everyone to not go off the rating for any premise that interests you because it might end up being something that you absolutely love. Watch the trailer first and if you're still intrigued, give the series at least 2 episodes (unless it's too cringe to continue), you'll be surprised by how many gems were hidden from you because of this biased rating. That's what happened to me with "When Light Fades." Loved it to bits, rated it a high 9 but the MDL rating is only 7.7 despite being a brilliant series. So glad I've started to just go for the show I like and disregard the ratings, the most I'll do is skim the comments, if there's valid criticism (a reasoning behind not liking the show instead of "it's boring, it's slow" etc) then I'll be more careful but other than that if the ppl in the comments are loving it but the rating doesn't show, then you know it's the ppl that didn't even watch it just bombing the ratings.
The cast looks promising but the premise is what's making me doubt the quality. I'm not entirely sold on how well the director and screenwriter could pull this off, going off of their previous works. Let's hope the cast's talent doesn't get wasted by a bad script.
Ok, so - this was one great series! It could have been a masterpiece, even better than Shine for my taste, BUT…
Agree with everything you just said! The timeline was never made clear and that threw me off quite a bit. I can understand them not giving the exact date but they should've at least mentioned something like "a few months later" or "4 years later" so the viewers at least have a gist of how much time has passed.
YES YES YES! That lakeside scene bugged me too ughhh! I was visualizing a grand reunion where Vin would run up on shaky legs, heart pounding thinking "this possibly couldn't be- right? But please let it be him," sort of vibe, just a whole lot of inner turmoil. I wanted Vin to just fall to his knees halfway across the bridge in tears because your legs do give out in relief if someone important to you that you thought was dead turns out to be alive. Sin kneeling right in front and comforting him and Vin inspecting every inch of him later with worried hands just ahhh 💘 It could've been made so much more impactful.
I also feel like they didn't give much weight to the literal fact that Sin killed his dad! They just brushed it off like it was just a small accident. People are more spiteful of car accidents than they showed Vin and his mom to be for a literal stabbing. Kind of makes you question how much of an absent father he must've been for them to let it go so easily, felt like there was no attachment (but I will give props to that scene in the forest where Vin was crying after initially finding out, that tore my heart into pieces and felt realistic. I too would want to get as far away as possible from someone that killed my family member. A betrayal like this makes you question everything you know and how life can be so cruel. For it to come to this, that it just had to be him, that it possibly *couldn't* be him. The denial, the excuses, the disbelief, there was so much that could've been done.)
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Absolutely! Bas was inarguably the best thing about this show. He was a force to be reckoned with. Lhongchang I feel like wasn't able to fully immerse himself in the role whereas Bas was portraying it head to toe. Had the rest of the cast been on the same level, this could've become a masterpiece. Just because of some tiny little misses, it lost the potential to be as good as it could've been. But still, kudos to them for giving birth to a commendable series.
Soo sad it ended! Feel like they could have easily made it at least 10ep and develope that ending a little more,…
Yes! Exactly my thoughts on the whole way they executed the last episode! The show was doing such a good job handling heavy topics like loss and grief until then but suddenly, betrayal of this caliber was nothing more than a tiny misstep? They just brushed it off like he'd only picked a flower from their garden and not killed their dad! People hold a greater grudge than this if you kill their dog! Love how you wanted Ravin to sit with the revelation longer because me too! Makes me feel like I'm not the only one. And the acceptance arc for the mum would've been beautiful too if it went as per your suggestion. This series really could've benefitted from a longer runtime. Shame that it ended on a note that wasn't as good as the majority of it. Still a strong series tho.
I'm so glad I gave this series a chance despite the low rating because oh my gosh?!??! It was beautiful! The plot was good and the acting was amazing (from Bas) for the most part, just that Lhongchang failed to fully convey the gravity and emotions in some heavier, more intense scenes. The story starts off with a bang (literally) and it keeps you engaged. The romance might've been a bit slow in the beginning but that's how a slow burn should be, they shouldn't be all over eo right from the beginning, it makes you question whether there was even a genuine connection in the first place or not. The pacing was done well, it slows things down a bit before picking up again and keeps introducing new conflicts so the story doesn't get boring.
The characters are what made this work for me. They're all very well fleshed out/developed and had their own motives and backgrounds- this gave the story a very human touch. The show was very emotional and delved into a lot of human emotions and experiences like loss, grief, love, justice, and survivor's guilt. The story touches you quite deeply and makes you feels all sorts of things. It makes you root for the good ones and curse at the bad ones, cry with the characters and also kick your feet in excitement. Overall, it was a really good watch, just that the ending felt a tad bit deviated and rushed. Loved the ending scene with the marriage equality act being passed.
If you like modern history, and this part of Thai history in particular, do watch "The Edge of Horizon"…
I did start watching "The Edge of Horizon" but for some reason it could not hold my interest for long. I found myself skip-watching more often than not in the latter half (perhaps because of how it got a bit repetitive) so I just gave up on finishing it until I was in the right mood for it. I'm usually not one to like melodrama too much. I do indeed like emotional things but only if they're justified and logical. If something feels dragged out and could've been resolved easily, I tend to lose interest, so this genre is a bit of a hit or miss for me and one that I usually don't gravitate towards lol.
But this one was done surprisingly well! I loved how well developed the characters were and how the writers and directors dealt with grief and survivor's guilt. They truly did it justice.
I'll check out "Shine" tho. I was waiting for it to finish but then just forgot about it lol. (Cheers for Kinnporsche fam for coming into this genre together!)
Just read a bit more about the history of Thailand and got to find out that this show is based upon real events that took place in Thailand. After the 1976 Thammasat University massacre, many student activists took to the jungles and drove the communist movement forward. Political unrest had been in motion since the 1960s but it took shape rapidly after the students got involved. Thailand's communist party was ultimately dissolved by the Thai government sometime in the early 1980s and led to the surrender of activists and fighters.
The acting jump 📈📈📈📈 He's improved so much oml. I couldn't even watch him in Dinosaur love but look at him now. He did so well in When Light Fades! Proud of his progress. Hoping to see more of his handsome face lol
I'm still pissed. Can't they just air it on Netflix or some other OTT platform? They should've chosen a better broadcast company than SBS, like OCN or TVN. Wasted potential 🐨
I think you're right 😭💔
They shouldn't have given us hope 🚬
Not everyone uses AI in their daily life. Some avoid it especially because they know of its impact. Just read a bit more about data centers and how many communities they've destroyed and you'll have a good insight on how harmful it is.
I stopped watching the first episode halfway because of the whiplash and dichotomy of what I had in mind vs what I actually got and omg Do Hyeon is such a psychopath? His eyes seem so vacant and devoid of emotions that it's eerie (just finished watching ep 1 now). An earlier comment mentioned Secret relationship levels psychopath vibes and I was doubting it before but I can see why they said that now.
I mean, it did the job of establishing that Do Hyeon has very explicitly romantic feelings for Eun Ho right off the bat without any room for debate but it still felt a little shallow to me? Idk, maybe I'm reading too much into it. Inarguably, the opening definitely did have that "WOW" factor that leaves you flustered and keeps you watching.
I was not prepared for that opening scene?!?! 😳
I thought it was gonna be cute and light and almost watched it with a friend, so glad I started this alone 😭
It looks so good 😩
But I just know the makjang vibes in this are gonna be abysmal 😭
Gonna abstain from reading the webtoon before watching because it would take away the wow factor that comes exclusively from a first watch, will read after I'm done with the show <3
I know it's a bummer, but we can't really do anything in front of masses. Spreading the word and just leaving good comments weekly would be the most effective. Just try to enjoy your time here with fellow watchers <3
I'd recommend everyone to not go off the rating for any premise that interests you because it might end up being something that you absolutely love. Watch the trailer first and if you're still intrigued, give the series at least 2 episodes (unless it's too cringe to continue), you'll be surprised by how many gems were hidden from you because of this biased rating. That's what happened to me with "When Light Fades." Loved it to bits, rated it a high 9 but the MDL rating is only 7.7 despite being a brilliant series. So glad I've started to just go for the show I like and disregard the ratings, the most I'll do is skim the comments, if there's valid criticism (a reasoning behind not liking the show instead of "it's boring, it's slow" etc) then I'll be more careful but other than that if the ppl in the comments are loving it but the rating doesn't show, then you know it's the ppl that didn't even watch it just bombing the ratings.
Happy watching <3
Let's hope the cast's talent doesn't get wasted by a bad script.
The timeline was never made clear and that threw me off quite a bit. I can understand them not giving the exact date but they should've at least mentioned something like "a few months later" or "4 years later" so the viewers at least have a gist of how much time has passed.
YES YES YES! That lakeside scene bugged me too ughhh! I was visualizing a grand reunion where Vin would run up on shaky legs, heart pounding thinking "this possibly couldn't be- right? But please let it be him," sort of vibe, just a whole lot of inner turmoil. I wanted Vin to just fall to his knees halfway across the bridge in tears because your legs do give out in relief if someone important to you that you thought was dead turns out to be alive. Sin kneeling right in front and comforting him and Vin inspecting every inch of him later with worried hands just ahhh 💘
It could've been made so much more impactful.
I also feel like they didn't give much weight to the literal fact that Sin killed his dad! They just brushed it off like it was just a small accident. People are more spiteful of car accidents than they showed Vin and his mom to be for a literal stabbing. Kind of makes you question how much of an absent father he must've been for them to let it go so easily, felt like there was no attachment (but I will give props to that scene in the forest where Vin was crying after initially finding out, that tore my heart into pieces and felt realistic. I too would want to get as far away as possible from someone that killed my family member. A betrayal like this makes you question everything you know and how life can be so cruel. For it to come to this, that it just had to be him, that it possibly *couldn't* be him. The denial, the excuses, the disbelief, there was so much that could've been done.)
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Me too lovely, me too 😭
Absolutely! Bas was inarguably the best thing about this show. He was a force to be reckoned with. Lhongchang I feel like wasn't able to fully immerse himself in the role whereas Bas was portraying it head to toe. Had the rest of the cast been on the same level, this could've become a masterpiece. Just because of some tiny little misses, it lost the potential to be as good as it could've been. But still, kudos to them for giving birth to a commendable series.
It was a 9 for me too <3
The show was doing such a good job handling heavy topics like loss and grief until then but suddenly, betrayal of this caliber was nothing more than a tiny misstep? They just brushed it off like he'd only picked a flower from their garden and not killed their dad! People hold a greater grudge than this if you kill their dog!
Love how you wanted Ravin to sit with the revelation longer because me too! Makes me feel like I'm not the only one. And the acceptance arc for the mum would've been beautiful too if it went as per your suggestion. This series really could've benefitted from a longer runtime. Shame that it ended on a note that wasn't as good as the majority of it. Still a strong series tho.
The plot was good and the acting was amazing (from Bas) for the most part, just that Lhongchang failed to fully convey the gravity and emotions in some heavier, more intense scenes.
The story starts off with a bang (literally) and it keeps you engaged. The romance might've been a bit slow in the beginning but that's how a slow burn should be, they shouldn't be all over eo right from the beginning, it makes you question whether there was even a genuine connection in the first place or not. The pacing was done well, it slows things down a bit before picking up again and keeps introducing new conflicts so the story doesn't get boring.
The characters are what made this work for me. They're all very well fleshed out/developed and had their own motives and backgrounds- this gave the story a very human touch. The show was very emotional and delved into a lot of human emotions and experiences like loss, grief, love, justice, and survivor's guilt. The story touches you quite deeply and makes you feels all sorts of things. It makes you root for the good ones and curse at the bad ones, cry with the characters and also kick your feet in excitement. Overall, it was a really good watch, just that the ending felt a tad bit deviated and rushed. Loved the ending scene with the marriage equality act being passed.
But this one was done surprisingly well! I loved how well developed the characters were and how the writers and directors dealt with grief and survivor's guilt. They truly did it justice.
I'll check out "Shine" tho. I was waiting for it to finish but then just forgot about it lol. (Cheers for Kinnporsche fam for coming into this genre together!)
We've been waiting since this dropped in 2019 😭
He's improved so much oml. I couldn't even watch him in Dinosaur love but look at him now. He did so well in When Light Fades! Proud of his progress. Hoping to see more of his handsome face lol
They should've debuted him in Winner, he would've had more activities that way.
Can't they just air it on Netflix or some other OTT platform? They should've chosen a better broadcast company than SBS, like OCN or TVN.
Wasted potential 🐨