mimi0108

Exactly! That she is against torture and death penalty is understandable. But that she justifies and forgives everything her friend and the 8th prince did under the pretext that one was a slave (while she had the choice to change sides but didn't do it out of love) and that the other would have done that because he loves her, is unbearable and incomprehensible.
The 8th Prince uses Hae Soo's excuse, but it's his obsession, ambition, cruelty, and jealousy that lead to quite a bit of drama. Yet he is forgiven.
But the 4th Prince who keeps being honest with Hae Soo is deemed untrustworthy because she has nightmarish visions? It's quite frustrating...
I'm still outraged when I think to the death of the crown prince and the 10th prince and the suffering of the 4th prince.

And yes, they missed an opportunity to make Hae Soo's character unique. In the end, the fact she comes from the future is only anecdotal and only there to create distance and misunderstandings between her and the 4th prince.

I recommend the Korean version if you want the main couple to be at the heart of the story. The international version made editing choices to the detriment of the ML and his relationship to the FL, which the Korean version corrected.

The final scene was cut but that's what happens. When she cries in front of his painting, Wang So, in modern clothes, appears and gives her a handkerchief. It's up to the audience to decide whether it's Wang So from the past who found a way to join her or his reincarnation with whom Hae Soo will have a real chance to build a relationship in her time.

Personally, more than the acting of IU (which is correct even if not exceptional) it is the writing of the character of Hae Soo which poses a problem.
The audience has little access to her thoughts, which makes it difficult to connect to her. Plus, she's sometimes more of a filler for 21st-century audiences to identify with than a real character.
Her backstory is purely anecdotal and doesn't serve the plot. What good is it to tell us she was cheated on by her best friend and boyfriend if the first thing she does in the past is to fall in love with her cousin's husband and flirt with him while his wife is dying? The character could have been very complex if we were shown she clings to the 8th prince because she was heartbroken and idealizes this man while at the same time fighting her feelings out of respect for her cousin and feeling like she's a hypocrite.
Likewise, as an independent woman of the 21st century, we never have her point of view on the place of women and polygamy. Wang So tells us once she told him she didn't like polygamy, but that was offscreen. Hae Soo could have been a great tragic character, torn between morality and sentiment, 21st century independence and 10th century reality and so on.
Instead, she is often a tool of the script, used as a powder keg to precipitate the tragic elements of the story.
The 8th Prince killed the Crown Prince, helped to kill the 10th prince and plotted to kill his own father and the 4th prince. Yet Hae Soo defends him just because they have a past, it's illogical when she spends the whole drama worrying about the 4th Prince killing his brothers. It was purely to create a misunderstanding and drama between the main couple.

I see what you mean. I also saw the Chinese version, before seeing the Korean version. Indeed, the 4th Chinese prince is not wild like Wang So but he is more secretive and calculating, which was why the FL didn't know him very well and did not know what she has signed for. Unlike Hae Soo who knows and understands Wang So.
I think the main difference is in the personalities of the two leads. Hae Soo is portrayed as an independent yet romantic 21st century woman. While the 4th Prince is a complex, wild and lonely man from the 10th century. Therefore, Hae Soo is more cautious with him because he doesn't match at all to what she imagines of a lover and a relationship. While he is more obsessive and demonstrative because she is the only one who has managed to pierce his shell.
And that is understandable. I think most women in the 21st century would rather relate to men like the 8th or 13th prince than men like the 4th. Until you know them more personally and sees they are all human and that those who seem perfect on the outside can be very imperfect on the inside and vice versa.

The love she had for the 8th prince was one of idealization and recognition. He was kind, charming, honorable and was a pillar for her at a time she struggled to accept this new reality. With the 8th prince, Hae Soo was also sometimes the age of her body: a 15-year-old girl having her first crush. But she never knew her crush's flaws and they never share a deeply connection with an open heart.
The love for the 4th prince was more mature, deeper, based on understanding, sympathy and hardships they share together. But she put a distance between them for so long. First, he kept threatening her, then he was a bit intimidating or flirty, and then she had her terrible visions telling her he would go mad and kill everyone she loves.
In addition, at this time she had feelings for the 8th prince and the promise of a simple life away from palace intrigues. It was difficult for her to accept a wild prince with a terrible fate when one aspires to a simple life. But she confesses it in episode 12: even though she had feelings for the 8th prince, she couldn't ignore the 4th but was scare of what it meant to be close to him.
Just see how much Soo cares about the 4th Prince in the early episodes while he is extremely menacing. She doesn't run away from him but tries to understand him, consoles him or argues with him to expose her pov. It's not the attitude of someone who doesn't care or hates someone. And her attitude when he is too close to her is also telling. She is not insensitive to the 4th prince but he is too intimidating and complicated for her. The calm and apparent simplicity of the 8th prince suits more in her mind.

I know I shouldn't expect too much from some dramas but... it still shocks me the way the script writes the plots around Chris. The kid is 6 years old and he can move freely in the city. His teacher accompanies him behind the mother's back to see his father who doesn't recognize him but the teacher apparently is unable to understand the situation and continues to let the kid go wherever he wants without supervision and without telling the mother. It's outright neglect! I'm really starting to pull my hair out when I see this.
The whole intrigue with the psychopathic sisters is unbearable but add to that a 6 year old kid who can do whatever he wants, I am on the verge of breaking down.

Great new! Thanks x)

Good to know. Thanks!

I just finished the first episode. Could someone be nice enough to tell me if the FL's maid is going to learn to shut her mouth?
I have never seen such a dumb and disrespectful maid.
The identity of the FL is contested, she must be accepted in her maternal house and the maid continues to argue with the others women of the house (without respect for their status), to interfere in the conversations of the mistresses and to swing information that her mistress wants to hide. She behaves like a spoiled rotten princess. So annoying.

It doesn't make me feel better, in the sense that she has no survival instinct and favors her revenge. The guy almost killed her (another person would have died and 2sec more strangulation and she would have been) but she defends him because he is not the murderer of their investigation. Wtf, the guy has some murderous and violent tendencies anyway, he's sick.
I can't stand violent people whose actions have no consequences, so I will stop the drama here.
Thank you for your answer x)

As much as I found the drama entertaining, episodes 25 to 28 pissed me off enormously. The writers make the FL so stupid and illogical, it's unbearable.

She decides to take the blame for an unknown thief because she has compassion but it is illogical and stupid. She poses as her brother, admitting to being a thief, getting kicked out of the academy and delivered to court is extremely dangerous for her and her family. Her brother will never be able to hold official office again, her identity as a girl may be revealed (and her entire family will be killed) and she may be severely punished by the court even if she successfully hides her gender. In addition we have the teacher who tells her that the girls cannot become officials because they are too sentimental but she still does not realize that she is wrong in doing this. Sacrificing herself and her family for a stranger without making a difference is stupid. The boy will continue to steal, risk harming other people or being killed. How will sacrificing herself at this time change things?

And let's not even talk a few episodes later when she rushes to the temple with the register because her teacher, who she has NEVER told about the book, asks to see her to discuss about it. And when she finds out it's a trap, what does she do? She agrees to give the register to the student president who has never stopped targeting her. While the fact he knows the existence and the contents of this register, in addition to having tricked her to attract her to the temple, make him extremely suspicious.

What were the writers thinking? We have a FL which becomes an oyster waiting to be saved by someone else. Unbearable! I want to stop the drama.

Will Dong Jae be held responsible for what he did?
I'm at episode 8 and I'm so angry at him. His violence against women, his violent assault and attempted murder against Eun Soo, his attempt to trap an innocent for murder and so on is really unbearable and I saw that he would still be there in season 2.
If anyone could give me an explanation, I'll appreciate.

I started this drama but I have a question for who finished it:

She will have a crush for the SML for 2 years, from their senior year of highschool to the end of their first year of college.

I think they wanted to portray a different kind of romance. In many drama,s the FL is the one who loves ML first and will love him for years before he realizes it too. This time the roles are reversed.

The series is also very invested in the notion of friendship and the first loves / crushes of this group of friends.
They are young, inexperienced, naive and will hurt themselves and make mistakes out of love. Some will date unreliable people who will hurt them. Others will have crushes on someone they are incompatible with and will waste time and energy on one-sided love instead of quickly letting go and being realistic. It is youth. Sometimes we don't face reality or what is under our noses.

The FL suffers from a lack of affection due to her mother's attention focused on her little brother. The SML is the first to be kind and considerate to her. Therefore, she's going to have a big crush on him for a while.

But the ML has a close relationship with her and soon after entering college becomes her best friend and the person she spends a lot of time with.

What do we do when we date someone?
We go on a trip together, we eat together, we work together, we help each other and so on. This is exactly what ML and FL will do during their four years of college. Other than physical intimacy, they do everything a couple does and their affection for each other is immense.

However, the FL having put ML in the "best friend" box, she will take time to see the ML can be more than a best friend to her and that her platonic love for him can easily turn into romance.

So even though FL has a crush during 2/3 of the drama for the SML, the fact that she genuinely loves ML and builds a strong relationship with him is important and part of their romance.

So Ming Hui tried to kill the main characters several times, injured many soldiers in one of her attempts, failed to kill the FL several times, and once the ML, poisoned the FL to force the SML to marry her and that doesn't bother anyone?
Please tell me that she'll receiving her karma otherwise I'll scream. The actress/ character was writers/director's favorite or what?!

I don't know where they get them from but I compared with the youtube subtitles and it is not the same subtitles.
Those from Viki don't say the same thing sometimes. Like: "you want me to offer you books and be available for your calls?" while the youtube version says "you want me to be your servant instead of buying you books?". And Viki's sentences are very oddly worded sometimes.
I don't speak Chinese but I have enough basics for sometimes get shocked when reading Viki's subtitles because it doesn't match what is being said at all.

Am I the only one who finds Viki's subtitles inaccurate at times? I compared with the subtitles on youtube and there are several nonsense in the Viki version. I don't understand how they can do this.

He adopted her when she was a baby.