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TH gave Cangxuan the 'childhood' 青梅竹马 trope but she does not fulfil it.

I think in the end, Cangxuan still number 1 in Xiaoyao's heart. In the novel, when Cangxuan was happy about that, but it was such a pyrrhic victory.
But as you said, this love is familial love, not romantic love. She can't even contemplate being 'in love' with him.
Xiaoyao would rather kill herself because she cannot live with herself for not being able to kill him, because of the promise made to their elders and how important he was to her.

Here is also a point where I feel it proves that Xiaoyao didn't even have Xiangliu in her mind when she made up her mind to die. She didn't care what XL was doing, she probably thought he had lives to spare anyway. If this was true love for XL, I feel sorry for him. The drama manages to stop this discussion point since they made the moment a 'karmic dream'.

In this world setting, it appears Mount Jade is like a special zone untouched by all kingdoms, like a truly divine place?
Queen mother is like the all powerful deity who rules over this place. Not sure what her duties really entail, other than harvesting divine peaches and making all kinds of coveted divine wine and power boosting items. But this position is exalted and that's why being her disciple really boosted Xiaoyao's status as well.

As for the role itself, its equivalent to being a nun if I have to compare to other dramas. In the novel, its stated that Mount Jade does not allow men to stay there.
All male visitors can only stay for a maximum of 3 days.
Thats why Xiaoyao was ready to finally take over the role in the novel, because she wanted to be free from Cangxuan since he essentially took over the world and forced her to have no other place to go.
Too bad after the horrendous adaptation, we fail to fully appreciate how desperate Xiaoyao was to escape Cangxuan, for her to choose this place she considered a prison in her youth.

I don't know where this came about, I think its a marketing joke to make XL look cute.

Xiangliu is a demon who cultivated and achieved human form. That in itself might have taken thousand over years, if normal xianxia time is anything to go by.
After that, he spent at least 500-600 years as FFB and Xiangliu... from child form to adult, surviving the fighting rings and then becoming an adult.
There is no way he is only six years old? Unless there is some kind of different life meter that demons go by, like dog years to humans?
Anyone well versed in xianxia can share more about this?

Its very strange why you bring up those points about dengwei when I didn't even mention that at all?

What I am writing here is about how some people are accusing others for 'conspiracy theories'.

"The essence of Jing, being smart, supportive, and kind to the end is projected through the drama. " Really? because most of the XL fans only bash Jing and say he is bland, boring and useless.
The drama even adds Xiangliu saying such things just to make sure viewers are influenced this way. And when Jing helps Xiangliu escape CX's men twice, they only chose to show it once, like just one more time makes Jing look better and they can't have that at all!
In the novel, Xiangliu was more admiring of Jing. He definitely thought Jing was 'good enough' for Xiaoyao.

"the production team catered more to Yao Jing and gave them more romantic time."
You say this but did you know there was a grand and sweet proposal scene and Jing succeeded? Xiaoyao blushed and everything?
Their prewedding honeymoon, just the two of them but drama had to inject Cangxuan as a third wheeler.
Jing was key to bringing Xiaoyao to the Haoling king for Xiaoyao's closure with her parents. He was also only the one to go with her to Jiuli to find out about the bugs...
What we got in S2 for yaojing was so watered down that most audience who didn't read the novel wondered why Xiaoyao was so broken up for. They even cut 2 short flirty scenes from the leaked script.
Even the only kiss scene in S2 was a far shot that didn't even last 2 minutes, when the team made the actors kiss for real. The most hilarious thing was Xiangliu's inserted scene, reacting to TSJ's kiss that lasted longer than the yaojing scene itself. Did we really have to see him being all jealous about Xiaoyao happily kissing her man? What a way to ruin the CP's moment.

After seeing the character robbed in the drama, now in the mains, Plor is even stealing the essence of Jing's characterization to give to Xiangliu. Jing is the one who embodies Confucian values, not Xiangliu. I don't know if Plor is even chinese, but pls don't misrepresent our core values.

You want to praise Xiangliu, find other things to praise, don't make up lies.

Aren't you one of the most prolific writers who step on Jing's character in order to make Xiangliu look good?
Writing those 'fake gentleman' analysis... now even promoting Xiangliu as some 'poster-boy' for Confucian values?

"The main idea of Confucianism is the importance of having a good moral character, which can affect the world around a person through the idea of cosmic harmony. This moral character is achieved through the virtue of ren, or “humanity,” which leads to more virtuous behaviors, such as respect, altruism and humility."

I don't see Xiangliu as having good moral character. He is ruthless and he needs to be. He won't hesitate to launch the entire world into chaos again just to be able to let the Chenrong army live a little longer. But that is exactly the strange part. If his goal is to let the army live longer, why didn't they just accept the deal and go live out the rest of their days doing some peaceful farming etc?
Cosmic harmony? I don't think being bloodthirsty for a good battle is trying to achieve harmony.

Forgiving your enemies, trying to even let his brother put down his hatred and have a chance at life with his family. In your book that is 'weakness' just because it is Jing. But isn't this the virtue of 'Ren' 仁?

I am not against TJC and C Ent its a world where people with backers win over others who don't. Just don't pretend its not happening.

What I dislike is seeing how many toxic fans push their agenda here and trying to make other drama fans back down so you are the only voices left. If you are that confident your fav character is so amazing, then focus on him, but don't step on other characters when you know the drama characters were a result of this unfair bias play.

What we try to tell others is, what they saw and now celebrate was not a happy accident. Its exactly what the production company set out to achieve. And in doing so, they ruined a perfectly beautiful IP that is LYF.
We get to whine about that. What is so salty about it?

What is salty is how some fans insist Xiangliu is Xiaoyao's 'true love'.

Xiaoyao is not her grandmother and she is definitely not her mother. She lives her life in a transparent manner. That is why she loves Tushan Jing. Not because they are both damaged goods, but they found that special someone who matches their own world views.
活得通透的人，不争不抢、不骄不躁，以通达的心境追求人生的目标，活出最美好的模样 People who live this way, live their lives to the fullest and in the best way. It may not be the 'epic' way with power or riches, but its how Xiaoyao wants to live her thousands of years.
Don't step on her 'small woman' dreams or happiness.

TH has said, even housewives are important people. Not every female needs to become some big CEO or 'the best' 'the first' in order to be considered as accomplished. That is why Xiaoyao is written the way she is. Its not that she is not motivated to become more, she just wants different things in her life.

There is nothing wrong with that. What we are pointing out is, its obvious who brought the most money into LYF and who got the subsequent attention and therefore now looked like the 'male lead of LYF'.
We are saying this didn't happen just because of the role. It was because what had been given to the role. His role was expanded beyond the novel and other characters all were sacrificed to make this happen.

TJC is talented and he is also not that young anymore. Not surprising that they saw XL as a role that can help boost his career to new heights so they invested alot into it.

What we cannot stand is just how the production teams tend to be really biased in C ent. Are we not allowed to express that? Seeing this kind of foul play and then hearing his fans step all over the other characters, who have now become a casualty for his 'amazing' character setup, why should we remain silent so they can think they are in the right?

In what other circle do you see this kind of thing happening? Where even the top billed female lead's CG scenes look like crap compared to the 'special billed' 'third male lead' ... Should this even be a good business model for making dramas?

Its not you, but some people have been going around accusing other fans of conspiracy theories when the facts is so plain and in our faces.
If it happened, then acknowledge it instead of gaslighting others.

I also thought so before the drama tried to steal from everyone to literally give the highlight to Xiangliu.
They even took Hong jiang's resolve to give to him and his subsequent actions all 'broke' XL's character setting.

From the novel, I thought Xiangliu was cold, proud, and he was willing to follow his foster father into death.
Now the drama showed even Hong Jiang faltering, and for some inexplicable reason, Xiangliu who only joined this rebellion for less than 300 years, was the one who was unshakable in his faith that everyone should 'die on the battlefield'? The same Xiangliu who told Xiaoyao that as long as there is beauty in the world, life is worth living?
I still wonder why this cannot apply to the soldiers of Chenrong. Are they beyond redemption?
And what is worst, instead of being battle ready with his troops Xiangliu is really free to go everywhere to 'help' others.

The drama wanted him to have a hand in finding Tushan Jing, but also absolve XL of keeping Jing for 6 year from Xiaoyao for his own political agenda. That was Xiangliu. He would have stopped at nothing including letting Xiaoyao try to assassinate the clan leaders of Dahuang, including Cangxuan. But in the drama, wow he will give everyone else what they wish for in life! yay! Except poor Fenglong, who had to die as a casualty of his fight.
And that scene where he went Qingshui town alone to lie down on Xiaoliu's bed. What was that about? If he has so many regrets, why did he choose death? When Hong Jiang was unsure, why did he seem so certain of their path?

If the bugs did not turn into heartbreak bugs... why did Xiaoyao have
chronic heartache over Tushan Jing? Now the drama made it even clearer, when she think about him the bugs will backlash and give her a stabbing pain...
It actually made more sense as to why Xiangliu eventually gave up trying to win Xiaoyao, because he knew they became heartache bugs. If he cannot be first, he won't be second. That was his demon's pride.

Especially when in chinese there are 4 worded idioms that have to be a huge chunk of text after being translated because if its done literally sometimes it makes no sense at all... or its some kind of reference to some other existing poem or historical fact... and the beauty of the language also lost after that big chunk lol

Give me a break. This is not fan conspiracy but if you just look at C ent for a few years, its very obvious that is how they deal.
How they work is, who brings in more money to the project, who gets more highlights.
Just look at how badly butchered LYF S2 is, and you know they did a horrible job this time.

Don't have to look too far to see how much TCJ's team places importance on this role, which I think they probably see as a career making role, like how Wei wuxian was for Xiao Zhan. Even the marketing materials for TJC is on a different level, better than even Yangzi, the first billed lead of LYF.

You are the one with misinformation.
"Plus, censorship is going to drool over XL's character because he basically a walking billboard for Confucian thought."

"To Confucius, family relations were key to happiness. In his view, as long as family members are respectful to each other and citizens are respectful to the ruler, the whole society becomes a gigantic family in which everyone is supported and happy."
How is being a rebel general, fighting against the peace, reflecting 'Confucian thought'? Xiangliu's very existence goes against "citizens are respectful to the ruler"...

So Tushan Jing is filial to his grandmother, paying her due respect after her death even after she basically backstabbed him and destroyed his every happiness. Yet you only mock him. But XL's values are to be praised?
Being suicidal and going against 'unity' is great? I bet if the censorboard take a closer look they are going to think XL is not their poster boy at all. let me tell you, I don't think their country likes the idea of 'resistance' being beautiful.

"XY's true love was always been XL" you can keep lying to yourselves about that.Even the so called 'lovers bugs' proved that they were heartbreak bugs in the end. I really don't know how you can just pretend that XY and XL didn't have heartache because of backlash.

But seeing what you write, I am hardly surprised.

FYI Tushan Jing is the one who actually risked the wrath of both the Xiyan kings to bring Xiaoyao to Haoling for closure about her mother, because he noticed she was still suffering over knowing the truth of her birth secret.

Jing was the one supposed to meet her mother in the burning desert with the King of haoling and Xiaoyao, and get her blessings to be with Xiaoyao.

In the end, the drama half-assed the entire arc, and even Cangxuan got to go pay his respects, while Jing, with his botched big proposal, can't even pay his respects at all.

XL is 'squeezed in' because TJC has backers and the team even steal Jing's lines for him. Eg comforting words like ' we can't choose our parents' belonged to Jing. So while you all ooh and aah at how great XL is, and how boring Jing is, its because all his moments are taken away.
Even his fight scene with Hou was supposed to last longer than 5 minutes and way cooler with 9 tailed foxes fighting tiger leaping around in mist...

Looks like many people who bash Jing don't even know how biased the team is against him and how much is taken away.

I didn't say its a bad translation.
But koala mistranslates many of the flowers that TH gave special meaning to especially for yaojing- like osmanthus, the mujin flower etc so that the meanings are lost on the fans who read it.

She also mistranslated some important lines which lead to misleading about the relationship between Xiaoyao and xiangliu... recalling offhand its that scene where Xiaoyao thinks back to qingshui town ...

Its too bad that such a successful IP has not been translated officially and we still need to rely on free fan translated version. I don't look down on her translation and I recommend to others. But its good to give note that it does in fact have errors.

The drama team rewrote so much and took so much important arcs from Jing, its really criminal. Especially how after it aired, so many antis even step all over his character precisely because of what they did to his character.

Jing was the main driving force for Xiaoyao to get her closure with her mother. In the end he was relegated to being just a background extra. His proposal was beautiful, which would have boosted the 'romance' for yaojing, but the team axed it and made XY botch it. So much so that even when the final arc when Xiaoyao chose to marry him on the full moon, was lost because Jing was the one who picked the date in the first place.

Even in the end, after Jing returned, he also forgave Cangxuan for helping Hou kill him and told Xiaoyao not to blame herself. Everything good about him was just erased from the drama.

The team even made use of Jing to try to convince us that what the Chenrong rebels are fighting for 'made sense' with that extra scene. I still don't agree in their fight still. It was still a blatant waste of lives as far as I am concerned.

heheh your last line... yeah Xuanlong ship is sailing far stronger than yaoliu ship.. at least Fenglong could die for Cangxuan... meantime Xiangliu only chose Hongjiang and his men over Xiaoyao...

Its so ironic because those people moaning about how the great things Xiangliu did but not known or acknowledged by Xiaoyao and how unfair it all is, but they mock the very character who suffered at the hands of the LYF production team, who had to literally donate his dialogue, his scenes, even his plot points in the LYF story so that Xiangliu, who initially didn't have as much screen time, have things to do and say.

This loud few always claim to 'see the things that is not there' but they have already precisely fallen into what the production team wanted them to see and think, by negatively influencing the audience and successfully manipulating them to think that even the 'special supporting role' is now even better than the male lead, Cangxuan.

See, money talks in C ent. Its funny how some still can pretend that a certain actor didn't manage to get more ( illogical ) scenes added for his role, or benefit from the best CG in the entire series.
Even the fight scene between our two leads looked so silly because it was confined into one room, instead of being an epic air battle where Xiaoyao shoots at Cangxuan's flying mount.

What the drama team did not expect, is many of the audience are already old novel fans, or new drama fans who have read the novel before the S2 aired. So we know what they did, and its not pretty.

Please do read the novel, but do note that the only translation is biased towards Xiangliu as well and there are many mistakes that will weaken the understanding of TH's original intentions, especially about the flowers mentioned in LYF.
You can ask us if you wonder about anything, I love to discuss about the novel anytime.

LMAO my friend if I ever get to write that BL fic, I will msg you HAHAHAHAHAH

Read the novel before you make such claims please.

The China audience are not stupid. They know when a story has gone out the window and manipulative marketing is being done. S2 adaptation was really adapted half heartedly and undisguised bias that made what was actually on screen even more unwatchable.
I could rewatch S1 but I really doubt I can rewatch S2.

Firstly, the fangfeng siblings are the ones who are coming into break up what was an original CP - Xiaoliu and Shiqi.

Really unbelievable how you all twisted your facts just to look legit?
FFYY loves Tushan Hou and not Tushan Jing. She was in fact going to trap Jing just to gain a status position for herself and her clan.
I suppose your morals root for such gold digging aspirations since you seem so bent on defending FFYY's 'rights' as Mrs Tushan when she had not even been officially married? Enough to even accuse of Xiaoyao being a third party when FFYY is the third party since she's not even in love with Jing.

And my argument is not that Xiaoyao is married.
My issue was always because Xiangliu always only do questionable touching to her while she is unconscious.
Sure your argument is : he loves her so much and he doesn't want her to know! But I can say the same for any stalker of any woman.
Does it mean when a man loves this woman, or he did alot for her, he is now 'qualified' to do that? Please think hard before you jump to Xiangliu's defense here.

If she and the man does not have this 'understanding', even a close friend holding, sniffing, kissing any part of a woman's body IS A BIG NO!

Do you get it??

Aren't you also gloating that people have blocked you?
You can't handle people who didn't block you?

How is it a mistress when Jing was not married yet? You guys are really great at twisting issues aren't you?