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I pity this girl. She has so self love not self respect. To chase after a guy that obviously has zero feelings towards her.

THIS BISH GOT SO CONFIDENT AND SASSY AFTER THE ACCIDENT I AM CONVINDED HE HAD SOME BRAIN INJURY 🤡🤣

I literally said this is going to happen, i literally described exactly what is going on right now 🙂
Me 6 days ago in comment setion:
"Theory from me, he did almost die but is fine. The shot of Jae Won alone was him just thinking shit through while Ji Hyun rests in the room (almost dying can be exhausting). Now Jae Won might try to distance himself from Ji Hyun because he 1. fears the pain losing someone can bring again, so it's better not to be too close with anyone. 2. blames himself for what happened to his brother, and now what happened to Ji Hyun and thinks people get hurt because they get close to him.
And it will be on Ji Hyun to get him out of that mental hell full of fear and doubts."

the drama: just that, tho he in ICU and not his room 😅

They might become decent rappers when the group disband 😅 they don't have a natural talent for it, so it comes down to a lot of practice and experience for them. But i don't want yo wait a year to hear a good rap on bepler's song 🤣

Nct has a lot of good rappers, and depending on the unit, their songs can be rap dominated.

For me, by now rap is a vital part of kpop. All groups have good rappers and the rap adds to the discography. So it's sad the whole show had close to no rappers.

He is in no1. They only showed Global Votes, and he was ALWAYS been 3rd and 4th in there. But he was always 1st when both global and korean votes were combined. They were "smart" with showing just that he is 3rd in global and not all the votes combined (because he is for sure 1st there) to make people vote for him even more.

Keita for sure will debut. He was always 1st and 2nd in global votes. So even if they won't get him to be at the top of that top9, he will for sure debut.
Zhang Hao will most likely get a lot of votes from the people whose no1 pick got eliminated last time, especially from the Chinese fanbase. I honestly don't think there will be any surprises in top 5, and the real battle will happen for these 6-9 spots.

People forget these were only Global votes, so it;'s highly probably G member was on top. Last two rounds not once was K trainee no1 in Global votes. The only one who got close was Sung Hanbin in 3rd place (just like now).

The no1 was most likely either Keita or Zhang Hao. That said, it did not even matter that Han Bin was truly 3rd, because as I said, it's just Global votes. He was never first in global votes, but he was always first in combined votes. And it's probably the same right now, that's why they decided to show only results from global votes.

i don't know... the only solid rapper is Keita. But then the whole season lacked rappers and they were almost never highlighted in any way, so what did I expect to happen in final lineup 😅

yeah well she has no issue forgiving and pleading for mercy for other evil people and be pissed if they are killed, like the late emperor lol She can be morally strict and react emotionally to all and any death, but she does not. I'm not saying she should start seeing TTJ in a different light and forgive him for all the bad thing. I'm saying she should stop seeing other's people evil deeds as less evil and something that everyone should just forgive and move on lol

It's not even about her wanting to kill him. But she should have the same sentiment about other evil people, which she does not. With her black and white morality, she should not feel bad about the evil ones being kill. Yes, she can still want to kill TTJ but also not be sad, angry and frustrated about other evil people being killed by him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I honestly would not have issues with her seeing him as pure evil, if she judged other the same way. I'm just annoyed with the double standards. Like damn girl, how about hating and wanting dead all evil people, instead of preaching forgiveness for everyone and death for TTJ 🙂

Oh i can imagine he is more "chill" in a drama, censorship does its job 🤣

I mean she can think he is the biggest devil ever, that's not the issue. The issue is she acts as if other evil people are fine and deserve redemption and forgiveness 🤡 like bish, she can be a saint and not allow any bad deeds to be ever done, just have the same sentiment about others too hahahaa

I have one major issue with the drama - they keep trying to frame Tantai Jin as this evil demonic god, when he is more or less the most righteous of them all. Which tells you a lot, since he is not that righteous in the first place. I think all I need is one or two characters who would objectively judge the situation - yes he killed, but only those who did evil acts or tried to kill him. He is not going around killing babies or anything omg.

I think the most annoying one in that regard is actually Li Su Su. She literally went back in time to kill him before he could do said “evil acts” in the future, but was against him killing people who did exactly the same evil acts. How come it was morally good for her to do it, but evil for him?

All that, but also she literally went back to past to kill him because in the future he will do evil deeds. But she is annoyed he is killing people who did evil shit. Make it make sense 🤡

he is only 3rd in Global votes. And he has been 3rd and 4th each round in Global Votes. I'm sure he is still 1st when you combine both Korean and Global votes.

This show and trainees reactions and the audience reactions just show that the kpop industry is in awful state and has a lot of basic issues with how it's managed (on the companies level). I'm sorry, but I find it ridiculous that trainees worry this show is their only and last chance to debut and they see it as make it or break it. Yes, there are a few cases when it makes sense (older trainees 24+, people who already debuted long time ago and it did not go well, trainees with no companies), but for the rest, this should be seen as just an additional opportunity to make faster debut or gain more fans even without debuting.

Logically speaking, the companies would send their best trainees to shows like that. So the idea THEIR BEST are worried about not being able to debut unless they get in top9 is just the biggest clownery on the planet. I feel like there are so many companies created by people who know fucking nothing about running a bossiness, marketing, management, so then we get issues like that.

The issue is also the oversaturated market. When you have so many trainees, just being a good trainee and have solid lineup in the debut group is not enough to make it. Now trainees have to have already existing fanbase EVEN BEFORE THE FUCKING DEBUT. By now, being trainee is not really a training period where you learn the skill. It's already a job where you have to show the skills and market yourself, gain followers and fans. Shit like pre-debut releases. THE FUCKIN YOU MEAN PRE-DEBUT SINGLE. You put up a single online with a MV - THAT'S THE DEBUT in every realistic sense of the word.

Honestly speaking, the changes in the industry are both fascinating, but also scary. How PSY was planning to debut a fucking 12 years old and decided not to do that only because the public was against it. 12 YEARS OLD CHILD! Kpop industry is so wild and sad.

Exactly. They don't want to take any chances of him not being no1 at the end.
He was 3rd and 4th in Global votes for past 2 rounds, literally nothing changed. He gets 1st, because he is high in global and first (sometimes with a lot more votes) in kr votes

Yeah he had dating history, but when it was public they were already not dating. So Cube just said they already broken up. It's different than Hyuna and Edawn making their relationship public a day after Cube denied the rumors of them dating 🤣 One was a done deal that had little to no impact on the groups and the company, while the other literally made the company look like a joke (that they are, I'm not saying they are not lol).

The only reason they "like" Hui is to have him produce songs. That's it. But as I said, he wants to BE on stage. not just produce songs behind the scenes. He is successful producer, he is not successful performer. No one talks about his performance skills, he is know for the songs he produces. 4minute was THE girl group. What Cube does? Disband. CLC was gaining more and more popularity with one hit after another, what Cube does? Disband. Beast was one of the most popular groups? What happened? The whole ass group left because of shitty management. I have exactly zero trust in Cube.
Hyuna was also the golden child of Cube with all the promotions, albums, sub-units etc 🙂 Until she was not.

Cube is not Big 3 lol On any standard.

I never said he is nobody, but he can as well be in terms of a performer if Cube decided to not renew their contract this year (which would literally not be the first time Cube not renewing a popular group's contract for no good reason).

He can only be successful soloist if Cube decide to debut him as soloist and put money into marketing. Which I doubt they would. If they wanted him solo, they would debut him soloist long time ago, instead of making him produce songs for their groups.

He can easily be popular and well respected producer, but he wants to be a performing artist, and that's not what he is known for. He wants to BE on stage, not just watch songs he produces being perform on stage by other idols.

I agree that he does not fit into a group with other trainees in the show, I don't want him to debut here either, BUT I just find it laughable how much faith and respect people have for CUBE when they proved for years they are one of the worst companies in terms of management.

But he is not recognized as an idol, but as a producer, which is a different job. Even in Boys Planet when he showed up most people talked about the fact the produced songs for previous shows, and not that he is a great performer. He can easily work as a popular producer, but he would struggle yo make it big as a performing artist, especially with cube's shitty marketing and management

Peak Time is literally for failed group, so of you say he can go there, means he fits the criteria of failed idol. But you also said Boys Planet is for trainees and failed idols. So by your own logic he fits into Boys Planet 😂

I don't even want him to debut in Boy Planet simply because for me he does not match with other trainees that well, but he does fit the concept of the show overall. All seasons of mnet survival shows had popular idols in them, and each time they did debut with the show. It's not like Hui's situation is new and special.