I have asked before but wondering if anyone has a link to 2019 Chinese version of the book online. I keep finding the 2013 version. 

Sorry for asking again. Just want to check some things.

 MengXiang:

I have asked before but wondering if anyone has a link to Chinese version of the book online. I keep finding the 2013 version. 

Sorry for asking again. Just want to check some things.

Here is the link for 2013 version: Sauvignon Blanc Tonghua, Sauvignon Blanc Novel, Sauvignon Blanc Novel Full Text Free Online Reading - Luoxia Reading (luoxiadushu.com) 

 H19279:
What kind of expectation did he have in mind? The bug is the promise of lifetime love. His only expectation was that she also loved him for lifetime. So, I think that the oath support to what you think.


 H19279:
P/S: in the end, the bug was broken by external forced. XL paid with his lives. And for XY, the man she loved died --> becoming her pain. All the memory of accompany with him, places where they had been to turned into bitter.

Yes. I always view that oath "everything you love will turn into pain, whatever you enjoy will turn into bitterness" to apply to breaking the vow of a lifetime love as represented by the Lovers Bugs, rather than to her not doing something that he asked. And while she technically didn't break the vow, you're right that by the end he, the person that she loves, had turned into her pain and all things associated with him - all the things that we know she enjoys such as creating poisons - will be tinged with bitterness.

 liddi:
Could it be that the glowing of their hearts in unison signifies Xiang Liu initiating the process to wake her up using the lovers bug connection, which was why her consciousness was finally pulled back and merged into her body?


 H19279:
So,if they had kept the blowing bugs, it would give the impression that the bugs reacted when both of them faced the matter involved to Jing. What did they originally intended by the blowing bugs?

Like H19279 said, this part was very different to the novel.

The other time that the Bugs glow was outside of the Bone Prison when XL saw Xiao Yao and Jing together. Does it also glow in the leaked script in the scene when he "felt" their intimacy? Because if it does, then maybe it is meant to be linked to Jing somehow. Is this another attempt to push for XiaoJing to be 1:1, that the Bugs sees Jing as a threat?

 MayaDavid:
I know that love bugs is a big plot device,

They are absolutely a plot device and, IMO their primary goal is to make clear that the relationship between Xiao Yao and Xiang Liu is romantic love (and that it remained constant throughout the novel) and not whatever soulmate of the friendship kind of nonsense that some fans like to insist on. If Tong Hua wanted to leave YaoLiu's relationship vague and easier to interpret as one-sided from Xiang Liu, she could have removed the Lovers Bugs from the story. 

 MayaDavid:
Part of this could be that I was convinced enough by the other evidence in the novel indicating that XY’ s feelings for XL was much much stronger than what she had for TSJ.

It is interesting, that you see evidence in the novel pointing to Xiao Yao's feelings for Xiang Liu being stronger. I've seen people who said that the epilogue took them by surprise because they didn't pick up on YaoLiu's relationship at all. Out of curiosity, what evidence in the novel convinced you that Xiao Yao feelings were stronger for Xiang Liu?

 MayaDavid:
However my general conclusion is very much based on my cultural backgrounds and I don’t dare debate with you folks about the love bug :) I do very much enjoy all the discussion though.

You should join in the discussions. People get passionate and pull out their quotes, but we're a friendly and courteous bunch. Differing opinions keep things lively, otherwise, it just ends up being an echo chamber.

@liddi @H19279 @HeadInTheCloud

The text in the leaked Episode 19 script says  XL bitten by a bug. and only XL was bitten by the bug.
xy wasn't bitten, and in this episode the bug didn't bite XL, but instead shone a light on XL and xy's chest.
So it's not due to being bitten by a bug (in my opinion). And it has nothing to do with reactions involving jing

 windiaaa041293:

@liddi @H19279 @HeadInTheCloud

The text in the leaked Episode 19 script says  XL bitten by a bug. and only XL was bitten by the bug.
xy wasn't bitten, and in this episode the bug didn't bite XL, but instead shone a light on XL and xy's chest.
So it's not due to being bitten by a bug (in my opinion). And it has nothing to do with reactions involving jing

Can you please share the Ep19 script?

 liddi:

Can you please share the Ep19 script?

Sorry, I can't upload images from Weibo, so I can only copy and paste.


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△海岸上,涂山形抱起小天,一瘸一拐地离开。

△ 相柳脑海中响起小天的话。

小天 OS: 可我还是怕一不小心,你会走进我梦里。你……………绝不适合出现在女子的梦里,那只怕真的比死还可怕。(第17集场22)

△ 相柳目光悲哀,自嘲地笑。他的心口有萤光 (蛊虫)在挣扎浮动,想要反噬。相柳的

手狠狠按住心口,用灵力强行镇压。灵力外溢,身周雪花轻舞飞扬。

离我大伯OS: 情蛊这种东西不但要命还要心,你命是有九条,可心只有一颗! 即便勉强种下,也是后患无穷,不但不能同命连心,还有可能蛊虫反噬,危及性命。 【第11集场9



△虽然承受着钻心之痛,他却依旧在笑。在相柳灵力镇压下,萤光 (蛊虫) 渐渐被压制下去。

△相柳最后看了一眼涂山环和小天, 捂着心口转身,带着一身风雪,步履踉跄地朝着大海深处走去。

△碧海青天,白衣身影在风雪中渐渐远去消失。

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 windiaaa041293:
Sorry, I can't upload images from Weibo, so I can only copy and paste.

Thank you. Can you send me the Weibo link as well?

 liddi:

Thank you. Can you send me the Weibo link as well?

https://m.weibo.cn/p/index?extparam=%E6%A1%90%E5%8D%8E&containerid=100808b31497b7043cb8eb313ffe3f5cc63d12&luicode=10000011&lfid=1008085fc513e8203d7843440393a1f8986de4

I found it a few days ago on this forum, then downloaded it. It takes a struggle to scroll down, there are too many posts

Chinese mythology about the Milky Way

According to Chinese mythology, when the king of the sky was creating the heavens, he asked his daughter, the seventh princess of heaven, to help him by weaving the clouds and mists. It was a tiresome job, and eventually the princess grew weary, so her father told her to take a break to play among the stars. She went to bathe in the Milky Way, a small stream in the heavens, and met a handsome herd-boy. They lost track of time together and when she finally returned to her father, he was furious. To prevent her from visiting the herd-boy again, he poured thousands of more stars into the Milky Way so that it grew from a small stream into an impassable river. The princess was so distraught that her father resolved to allow her to visit the herd-boy once a year by sending a flock of magpies to form a bridge over the Milky Way. [1]

Mythology about Guixu Sea: Guixu (simplified Chinese: 归墟; traditional Chinese: 歸墟) is a location in Chinese mythology where all water, including the Milky Way, flows into a bottomless void. Even as water keeps flowing into it, the amount of water in it never changes.  [2]. Thus the milky way (silver river) was considered as a kind of water form (upstream filled with stars )

How Milky Way in called in Chinese:

  • 银河 : literally means Silver River
  • 星河: literally means Star River
  • 银汉: the galaxy, 银 = silver; 汉 = strong man
  • 天河 : literally means heaven river

Example of literature work about The Milky Way

詩經·小雅·大東

維天有漢,
監亦有光。
跂彼織女,
終日七襄。

雖則七襄,
不成報章。
睆彼牽牛,
不以服箱。

Classic of Poetry, Lesser Court Hymns, Poem 203

In Heavens there is the Milky Way,
It looks down and is bright;
slanting is the Weaving Lady,
during one day she is seven times removed.

Although she is seven times removed,
she does not achieve any interwoven pattern;
brilliant is the Draught Ox,
But one does not yoke into any carriage.

Du Fu(杜甫) (712–770) of the Tang dynasty wrote a poem about the heavenly river [3]:

天河

常時任顯晦,
秋至輒分明。
縱被微雲掩,
終能永夜清。
含星動雙闕,
伴月落邊城。
牛女年年渡,
何曾風浪生。

The Heavenly River

Most of the time it may be hidden or fully visible,
but when autumn comes, it gets immediately bright.
Even if covered over by faint clouds,
in the long run it can be clear through the long night.
Full of stars, it stirs by paired palace gates,
moon’s companion, it sinks by a frontier fort.
Oxherd and Weaver cross it every year,
and when have storms ever arisen thereon?[11]

From all the reference mentioned above, it can be concluded that the perception of "Milky Way" in Chinese literature and ancient Chinese culture was a large river filled with stars and had bright silver color. In fact, the composition of the word for Milky way 银河 (silver river) already reflects its color.

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Now let go back to the text in chapter 14 about what XY saw when Jing untied his hair and stood agaist the sunrise on the boat: 

却看璟一边站起,一边随手解开了束发的发冠,满头青丝如银河九天*,披落在他背上,飘散在海风中。他侧倚着船栏,几分慵懒,几分随意地看着东边天空初露的晨曦。

But she saw Jing standing up and casually untying the crown that bound his hair. His head was covered with fine black hair falling down on his back and drifting away in the sea breeze like the Milky Way (TH used the word "silver river") flowing down from the nineth level of Heaven. He leaned against the railing of the boat, looking lazily and casually at the light of the dawn in the eastern sky.

Note (*) quoted from the poem "望庐山瀑布" (Watching Lushan Waterfall by Li Bai). In this poem the waterfall was describled as a white silk hang in front of the moutain, like the Milky Way falls from the 9th level of Heaven (the highest level of Heaven/sky). Thus in this poem, the perception of the Milky Way is white, flowing down stream (similar like a waterfall)

望庐山瀑布                Watching Lushan Waterfall [author : Li Bai]

日照香炉生紫烟,The "inscense burner peak"produces purple haze under the sunlight,
遥看瀑布挂前川。and the waterfall looks like a white silk hang in front of the mountain.
飞流直下三千尺,The height of the waterfall seems to be thousands of feet,

疑是银河九天。just like that the Milky Way falls from the nineth level of heaven to the cliff. 

What impressed XY is the image of hair driffting away in the wind which like the Milky Way flowing down from the Heaven. This not only depicted the stage, free form of the hair but it also could indicate the perception on the color of fine hair thread when subjecting under the sunlight - silver white color. It is worth to remind that XY was druken and she wore a hat with white veil in front of her face which could influence the perception of color into her eyes.  

Xiao Yao’s heart leaped to her chest like a little deer lost. Zhuan Xu had to call her a few times to get her attention. He pushed her softly “What are you thinking?”

Xiao Yao quickly said “Oh, you guys are back.” Her face was bright red but thankfully it was covered by the veil so no one could see it. Zhuan Xu seemed to understand something and concern flitted across his eyes.

And it's the perception of "like milky way flowing down from the heaven" that made her heart leap in her chest. The reason is the similarity with XL's hair (Collection of XY's impression on XL hair can be found in [4]). As mention in the analysis about haircare and hibiscus flower [4], WXL's memory of XL's hair is the hair characteristics itself (e.g., white, the loosen form, dancing like clouds etc) while before this moment the hair-linked memory with YSQ is haircare (e.g., washing, drying).  And since this moment XY started her interest in playing with Jing's hair (untied it, playing with it as said in chapter 16). When she washed his hair in the past (when he was wounded, she just dried his hair with towel). However, after this point and chapter 16 when she did played with his hair, the thing that she enjoyed most when washing Jing's hair is combing his hair with her fingers. "She soaked the hibiscus leaves in water to create a fragrant bubble which she ladled over Jing’s hair. His hair was beautiful, thick and lustrous, smoother than silk, and Xiao Yao loved using her fingers to comb through it as she washed his hair." 

XY's memory of Jing hair from chapter 14+ had root or link to her impression, sense of XL/FFB's hair. It is a way of release her desire or longing for XL through Jing. And of course, the later memory of washing hair with Jing was attributed to her memory of Jing. Note: extra information about washing hair (e.g., using hibiscus) is referred to the analysis in the following link.

[4]  https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2882267&page=386#p2882267 

@H19279

I have no doubt that xy's heart beats because of xl.

drifting away in the sea breeze like the Milky Way (TH used the word "silver river") flowing down from the Heaven.

It is described as being like a waterfall, just like XY saw XL's hair under the sea.

 windiaaa041293:

@H19279

I have no doubt that xy's heart beats because of xl.

It is described as being like a waterfall, just like XY saw XL's hair under the sea.

I just wanted to write a proper analysis. 

 H19279:

I just wanted to write a proper analysis. 

❤️❤️

Edit : I'm afraid the emoticons don't work. this is a heart emoticon.

 blabla100:
IMO XY did try to open the door for XL. The crystal ball and her wait for him is a clear message, I mean what more can one ask of her?

Maybe call off the wedding to Feng Long before attempting to start something with Xiang Liu? Maybe asked him directly? Maybe hashed it out when he did the marriage robbery? But of course, if she had done that, she wouldn't be Xiao Yao anymore.

I thought about why she didn't call off the wedding with Feng Long before sending the crystal ball. Did she want to use it to motivate Xiang Liu to declare his intention? Or did she think the odds that Xiang Liu would respond in the affirmative were so low, that she was just hedging her bet?

When it comes to her relationship with Xiang Liu, I always sense passivity and avoidance from her. I think it was windiaaa who brought up the scene in chapter 33? between Jing and Xiao Yao may not just mean to apply to Jing alone:

My own pessimistic personality and attitude, my own distrust of others, it caused me to lose the man I like. If I made a bit more effort, said more or did more, perhaps the result would be completely different. 

What kind of message does her behaviour send to Xiang Liu? That she's not entirely committed, that she's still weighing up the gains and losses; that she's still fearful of a bad outcome. When he takes that step towards her outside the Bone Prison, she rejects him because he's not "suitable", and it seems as if she still thinks that he's not entirely suitable even when she's confessing her feelings to him.

@H19279

银河泻九天引用了李白的望庐山瀑布:飞流直下三千尺,疑似银河落九天,瀑布是白的。飘发刚讲了璟大部份时间都在午后室内,室内飘发哪里飘得起来呢。哪个大莲花灯可以当反光版让他的头发打光打得如银河泻九天呢?相柳带小夭跳水,游海底,这些场景头发一定是又顺又飘。