One thing i hate is misogynists. Calling Carrie a c*nt makes you the c*nt. Grow up and stop acting like an assh.ole…
But you are assuming that Shane would have been interested in Jonathan if she was not around and they would have automatically gotten together.
Judging by his actions, I dont think Shane ever really cared about Jonathan. Shane was selfishly fixated on his needs - manipulating his friend to get what he needed. He didnt care that Shane was hurting, spiralling, destroying his academic future. He even pursued Shanes friend Carrie .
Yet because she is a woman, she gets the hate. I really dont know why bl audiences are so misogynistic.
maybe there's season 2 for this series? i dont understand why these people give low rates. for me i did enjoy…
A lot of people enjoyed show and loved the second couple. I am one of them. I love games and toxic relationships in fiction. (eg Only Friends, My Stand-in)
But a lot of people disapproved of the ChainJorn plotline and voted series down because it did not meet their moral standards.
These people have no problem romanticising violence, and mafia type drama shows where bodies are beaten up, people murdered, violence is glorified. However they disapprove toxic relationships being romanticised. They believe that writers and producers should not romanticise toxic relationships in FICTION as it will affect us and we will not know right from wrong.
There are other things that are worth criticising the show about - too many couple stories in 6 episodes, no resolution and left on cliff-hanger, music over nc scenes, plot issues, casting issues.
lol - no but people ate it up ( a lot of posts wanting more)
For what it was - it got a lot of engagement, it made an impact and a lot of us enjoyed it despite the issues and shortcomings. AND the male actors were cute - especially Chain/Jorn.
Its disgusting that the company is not paying the actors
You listed South Korean actors first so these ones are more likely to be selected. Also they are more known and popular - not necessarily the best looking.
Ji Chang Wook is pretty average in looks (amongst this set of very attractive men) but does not deserve first place - people are not voting based on looks
Of course no fan has read their contract. However, GIR’s public statements stated that they indeed chose to…
Thank you for you response and I am sorry that you, and other fans are going through this. I have yet to watch the show but sympathise with the actors as well.
It would be nice if GIR is guilty and the other side goes to court to force performance of the contract. (I don't know enough about contract or Thai law)
GIR /Smart have more to lose by terminating the contract. Effectively ruining Smarts career. Their behaviour is also financially illogical unless there is a valid legal reason. I was trying to understand how fans believe only one side is guilty without knowledge and facts. I guess its irrelevant now.
Because GIR literally put out a statement saying they were breaking their contract lol
I dont have a hidden agenda. I have not even watched the show (Im looking forward to watching) and dont have a favourite. Feel sorry for both boom/smart.
Obviously you dont care for facts and simply BELIEVE. Im more curious about people who are so certain they KNOW EVERYTHING rather then supporting either company.
Playing devils advocate - even if GIR terminated first - they may have had a valid basis that gave them legal right to terminate under the contract - ie the other party did not perform as required and refuses too.
GIR /Smart have more to lose by terminating the contract. Effectively ruining Smarts career. Their behaviour is also financially illogical. Unless there is a valid legal reason. Im curious about the facts and curious how everyone knows who is at fault.
It will be interesting if this goes to court - and it should if ONE PARTY BREACHES as there are financial losses. I just dont know which party breached the contract. (Terminating is not a breach if the contract allows it.)
This may all be above you since you can only believe instead of reason
Most asinine review - dont like it because you don't approve of the relationship, you don't get the ending you want, and the toxic relationship.
Funny how when a series romantises violence - like when its a mafia plot, then we can do away with morals and approve of toxic behaviour like violence and murder and physical assault. Why dont your explain how that type of behaviour is not acceptable either. Or do you only patronise those who enjoy viewing toxic relationships and messy dramas.
Or do you have selective morals. You dont mind physical violence but draw the line at toxic relationship. In China they have censored bl dramas because they dont approve. Imagine if we started censoring dramas based on our selective morals - there would be very little to watch.
I gave this a 10. Loved the novel and the drama series. Its one I rewatch often.
It has a riveting story, with interesting characters, and character development. This is missing in a lot of Thai BL dramas.
Poom (Joe) is such a good actor. In the first episode when he gets off the lift and Ming grabs his arm, you can see the range of emotions conveyed, angst, pain, fear, regret.
The first review hit the nail on the head. There’s just soooooo many issues. Like Nu , this sizable guy is so…
I agree 100% that Nu was miscast - should have been someone younger and smaller. Also Chain/Jorn story does not make sense due to size difference. I skimmed through the book (It was not very good ) in the book- Chain did not cheat he is the good guy and its a misunderstanding. in the book - Jorn was champion fighter which could explain diff in strength but even then... i dont buy it as Chain was an athlete.
I rated it highly because it was good and deserves recognition. They took a risk to produce this show and am grateful
They had a limited budget but despite that it delivers and is a quality show. And it has a happy ending.
And yes - some parts are toxic but its FANTASY and FICTION. Funny how people dont care about violence, but when they hear toxic their selective morals come into play.
One thing i hate is misogynists. Calling Carrie a c*nt makes you the c*nt. Grow up and stop acting like an assh.ole…
No shit - Shane having sex with Jonathan who is just a best friend is worse behaviour. He cheated on her as well. But as she is a woman - she is the worst.
EDIT I am tired of misogyny directed at FICTIONAL female characters who stand in the way of boylove. The male character who stands in the way never gets as much hate.
For a moment there I thought Thai bl would never leave school
Judging by his actions, I dont think Shane ever really cared about Jonathan. Shane was selfishly fixated on his needs - manipulating his friend to get what he needed. He didnt care that Shane was hurting, spiralling, destroying his academic future. He even pursued Shanes friend Carrie .
Yet because she is a woman, she gets the hate. I really dont know why bl audiences are so misogynistic.
https://mydramalist.com/2969-scarlet-heart
A lot of these translations are done badly by google translate and do not make sense.
But a lot of people disapproved of the ChainJorn plotline and voted series down because it did not meet their moral standards.
These people have no problem romanticising violence, and mafia type drama shows where bodies are beaten up, people murdered, violence is glorified. However they disapprove toxic relationships being romanticised. They believe that writers and producers should not romanticise toxic relationships in FICTION as it will affect us and we will not know right from wrong.
There are other things that are worth criticising the show about - too many couple stories in 6 episodes, no resolution and left on cliff-hanger, music over nc scenes, plot issues, casting issues.
For what it was - it got a lot of engagement, it made an impact and a lot of us enjoyed it despite the issues and shortcomings.
AND the male actors were cute - especially Chain/Jorn.
Its disgusting that the company is not paying the actors
If anyone has watched both, how are they different. Which one is easier to follow. Thanks
Also they are more known and popular - not necessarily the best looking.
Ji Chang Wook is pretty average in looks (amongst this set of very attractive men) but does not deserve first place - people are not voting based on looks
Enjoyed his performance and thought he was cute.
I would love to see him act in more dramas.
It would be nice if GIR is guilty and the other side goes to court to force performance of the contract. (I don't know enough about contract or Thai law)
GIR /Smart have more to lose by terminating the contract. Effectively ruining Smarts career. Their behaviour is also financially illogical unless there is a valid legal reason.
I was trying to understand how fans believe only one side is guilty without knowledge and facts. I guess its irrelevant now.
Obviously you dont care for facts and simply BELIEVE. Im more curious about people who are so certain they KNOW EVERYTHING rather then supporting either company.
Playing devils advocate - even if GIR terminated first - they may have had a valid basis that gave them legal right to terminate under the contract - ie the other party did not perform as required and refuses too.
GIR /Smart have more to lose by terminating the contract. Effectively ruining Smarts career. Their behaviour is also financially illogical. Unless there is a valid legal reason. Im curious about the facts and curious how everyone knows who is at fault.
It will be interesting if this goes to court - and it should if ONE PARTY BREACHES as there are financial losses. I just dont know which party breached the contract. (Terminating is not a breach if the contract allows it.)
This may all be above you since you can only believe instead of reason
Funny how when a series romantises violence - like when its a mafia plot, then we can do away with morals and approve of toxic behaviour like violence and murder and physical assault. Why dont your explain how that type of behaviour is not acceptable either. Or do you only patronise those who enjoy viewing toxic relationships and messy dramas.
Or do you have selective morals. You dont mind physical violence but draw the line at toxic relationship. In China they have censored bl dramas because they dont approve. Imagine if we started censoring dramas based on our selective morals - there would be very little to watch.
It has a riveting story, with interesting characters, and character development. This is missing in a lot of Thai BL dramas.
Poom (Joe) is such a good actor. In the first episode when he gets off the lift and Ming grabs his arm, you can see the range of emotions conveyed, angst, pain, fear, regret.
I skimmed through the book (It was not very good )
in the book- Chain did not cheat he is the good guy and its a misunderstanding.
in the book - Jorn was champion fighter which could explain diff in strength but even then... i dont buy it as Chain was an athlete.
I doubt there will be a season 2 especially since the actors are suing management company for contract termination for not being paid fully.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ThaiBL/comments/1lhu6m3/4_actors_seek_contract_termination_eye_contact/
Shane seduced Carrie when she was vulnerable after being rejected by Johnathan.
Also sad to learn about Miura Haruma, and then to find out he died - RIP
They had a limited budget but despite that it delivers and is a quality show. And it has a happy ending.
And yes - some parts are toxic but its FANTASY and FICTION. Funny how people dont care about violence, but when they hear toxic their selective morals come into play.
EDIT
I am tired of misogyny directed at FICTIONAL female characters who stand in the way of boylove. The male character who stands in the way never gets as much hate.