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No you're not. It's not horrible but it's not good either. I'm not laughing at the silly scenes, I find them cringe and problematic. I'll watch until I can't bear it lol.

The show is divided in two parts : ep 1 to 7 is PhayuRain and the rest is for the second couple.

That was cute asf. It would have been great with 1 or 2 more episodes. I don't understand why they decided 4 episodes were enough. But somehow it was still better than some 12 episodes series we endure every year.
I'd like to see this couple in another series They've got potential.

It's a mystery to me how people can bash or refuse to watch SCOY because of Toh's collecting habit yet they'll defend and gush over series like Addicted, TTTS, KP, Love in The Air where the MLs have more problematic behaviors. Talk about double standard. Just be honest and say you don't like Toh's face and mannerism...

The series is available for free on the official Youtube channel, Idol Factory. Don't watch it on illegal platforms, please.

Not people still saying "fiction is fiction, it's not real" in 2022. Can you really argue that the medias we consume can't influence us? It's true fiction is an escape from the reality but it's misleading to say it has no impact on our psychology. Movies and series do influence our ideas and opinions. Several studies confirmed that. I mean, what do you think Pop culture is ? It's basically the influence of medias in real life. It can be something stupid like thinking all French eat baguette and wear beret because that how medias portray french culture for decades. To these days, some people still believe that... But it's also harmful for generation:
- Thinking all black men are agressive or criminals because that's how they've always been portrayed in medias.
- Believing gay men were effiminate because of La Cage of Folle.
- Believing queers were stalkers and rapists. You can see that in books such as Mr Ripley, movies like The Silence of the Lambs.
- Killing queer characters in movies to subtly imply a homosexual relationship can't be real love. It was harmful for lot of queer people who thought they would never be happy.
- Believing women are promiscious, like to play hard to get and say no when they mean yes...I cannot even list the movies since the 70's where the ML is "playfully" rude, dominant and forces himself into the FL and afterwards they kiss and laugh as if nothing happened.
I could go on and on. The point is, what you see and read repeatedly will leave a mark on your mind, whether you like it or not. It's even more true for young people.
So it really pisses me of when people use the "fiction is fiction" argument to justify the unacceptable. Abuse, sexual assualt, rape, pedophilia, racism and homophobia can't be romanticized and glamorized in life or in fiction.
At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their feelings, you can like what you want but be honest, just tell it like it is, don't hide behind false arguments.

Yes, you don't have to be in love with your portkey, hovewer you might need to believe you're each other portkey in order to establish a real connection ? Then maybe the dreams can happen ? I don't know, it's just a guess.
You're right, maybe it just the fact that one doesn't want to go back. I've read somewhere that Pun wants to stay in this universe.

But they did get a sign when they passed the labyrinth test in episode 2 or 3. Why did they brush it off ?
Concerning the dreams, maybe they didn't have them because they refuse to connect with their feelings by ignoring they were each other portkey and by not confessing they're in love?

This is about the different physics theories the writer based Vice Versa on. But don't bother understanding it, they're barely used in the series lol.

I'm still asking myself this question. For me it's the biggest wtf moment of the series. I can deal with a lot of bs but I hate when writers take viewers for fools.

Everytime I go to Thailand I try at least one product we see on GMMtv. Next time I'll definitely buy the black inhaler! OhmNanon sold it very well :-)

I agree. I think one of the classmates is working for Chadok. Maybe Ayan's uncle found about it and Chadok bullied him until he couldn't take it anymore.

So ? Let them complain, why do you care ? Comment like yours add fuel to fire for no reason. Let's people rave about the series and let's complainers criticize.

As viewers, all stories can be romanticized, even those that don't have any romance in it. So, in the context of discussing BL toxicity, we're not talking about viewers perception but what the writer intend to depict. All the things you said weren't described in a way that was "romantic" and "acceptable". It was clear from the start the relationships were toxic and throughout the storylines the characters would evolve to build healthier dynamics. The characters were bad guys because of the world they lived in and their actions weren't glamourized.
As an example, and that's my opinion, in Unforgotten Night, Kamol & Kim's relationship is romanticized because Kamol is acting under the guise of love, he's shown doing problematic stuff to Kim because he's in love and Kim is presented as a reluctant guy who should understand and accept Kim's love.

Not only she's never met a guy but she doesn't consult one for proofreading. She's definitely overconfident in her abilities.

Khaotung looking like a meal in this series. The way they're making him sexy (the shower scene!) and confident. I love it!
AyanAkk's chemistry is so good! Their facial expressions are on point.
The characterization is great for all the guys:
- Tua who's so silent he doesn't even know to express himself "loudly". He says he's neutral, but is it possible to stay neutral when you witness bullying and injustice? I believe he'll raise his voice and express him feelings thanks to Ayan's influence.
- Kan's internalised homophobia is a sad thing to see.
- Akk's struggle is sad but also funny. Love his interactions with Ayan. I think his conflict is less about being gay and more about Ayan being his "enemy" : because Ayan is supposedly the bad guy, he doesn't want to acknowledge his feelings for him.

This school is a nightmare. Imagine accepting the job of prefect and then spending all your school day playing cop and spying on your classmates? And not even getting paid to do that :-)

It's not about hypocrisy. I think it's more about nuance and context. Some problematic behaviours can be tolerate within a certain context and the dynamics between the characters. We don't ask for perfect characters, but a character needs to be aware of their flaws in order for them to have character development. The issue is when toxicity is presented as normal and sexy and we're asked not to highlight the problematic stuff. As I always say, you can point out the intolerable stuff and still appreciate the series for what it is.

In TTTS, I didn't like Tharn's action yet I still like the series and the MCs because, for me, the point of the series was to show how two problematic teenagers grow up, acknowledge their mistakes (they were both toxic) and build a healthy relationship.
People saying "KP is toxic but you like it" are not taking into account the context: KP is a dark series about mafia guys. Their behaviours aren't romanticized. We know they're guys with questionable morals. The series isn't selling us romantic and normal relationships.
In HiStory 4: Close to You, the relationship between the stepbrothers was so controversial because it was not handled correctly. The younger brother's actions were stalkerish and predatory yet he was never called out by his older brother. The older brother even repeatedly excused his brother's actions! And then the whole thing was swept under the rug and they lived happily ever after... Like, what? The cognitive dissonance was too strong here.

The issue with Mame is that the core of her stories rest on the toxicity of the relationships. It is obvious in Love In The Air : the plot is weak and too fast paced because they only care about creating situations where Phayu & Rain would bicker and Phayu would show his dominance over Rain (after knowing each other for 3 days...). Also, nobody hates Mame specifically. Every problematic or bad written BL had been criticized while airing (Cutie Pie, TTTS, KP, Check Out...). It's not like there's a vendetta against Mame.

At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to like or dislike what they want. We shouldn't care about other people opinions in order to appreciate a series.

My toxic trait: me reading all the comments and thinking "I told you guys, since episode 5" ... Sorry, I'm leaving now :-)

The scene in the car when Rain tried to punch Phayu.

I see it's clearly a comedy. Unfortunately, it fails to make me laugh and somehow I feel the series takes itself too seriously sometimes. I spent the whole episode shaking my head, wondering whether this mess is deliberate or a miss.
Unlike some viewers, I like Noeul's acting (Rain). I mean, he does what he can with a weak plot and playing a stupid and delusional character.