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I was like “that could’ve been the one good adult”😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

These last episodes were really heavy. I feel drained after watching them. After Halmeoni died I was wondering why she was acting like she was self destructing and seemingly blowing her own cover and not being clear about if she didn’t it or not. Turns out she really was descending into deeper madness from Halmeoni’s death. Everyone is collateral damage if Ahjin feels like she’s suffering. I wish In Gang didn’t have to hear all that and go through all that. He didn’t do anything wrong. He didn’t even bring up what the neighbour said to her because he didn’t want to lose her. But no, she’s hurting so he has to hurt even more. She could’ve left him in one piece at least but she doesn’t like to do that. They have to become as twisted as she can make them. And will give herself the excuse that they were weak anyway. He died in a lot of pain and that’s what hurts the most about it. The whole thing with Halmeoni confirmed that her madness was created but now she really is descending in to the pits of madness.

I wish she would have been satisfied with a good, stable situation. I wonder if she would have told him to hold off on the marriage until much later? She didn’t love him but seemed to have a soft spot for his grandma the most. She might have married him just for that or kept the breakup simple so she could still visit his grandma? I don’t know. I feel that she would’ve gone ahead with the breakup seeking higher grounds of success because she really had gotten all she could out of him. Their photos together were so nice and seeing him so happy was sooooo nice. But that happiness was built with a version of her that wasn’t really her. She probably could’ve kept it up forever if she thought the arrangement was good enough though. He definitely should have told her about his plans but it’s not like he told the press to follow him and take photos. At worst, they could’ve talked about it and settled it. He probably had a feeling she would say no, and it was a selfish request anyway. But he would’ve taken her no, not yet. So that level of beating he took about her intentions was by farrrrrrr, unnecessary

When Jun Seo says he wants her to be happy he means that he wants are to be happy with him. Not anyone else. I wish he would face himself and take care of himself instead. Though I know he can’t. Why did Ahjin promise that she would come back to him?
She should look him in the face and say that they’re not in a relationship or that she likes her position now and won’t go back to him but she didn’t because she doesn’t want to lose him either. He’s useful to her that’s all. Turns out his friendship with the other girl was completely his choice. To some extent, he wants to hurt her too because she hurt him.
Everything is a mess. Why is the gross classmate back? Also, it’s not believable to me because why would she let her in?!!!
In Youp should play more melo roles like this. It suits him so well. Maybe a show where he and his wife are going through potential divorce? It would be soo good
I’m so pained about this episode. How do I get over this😭

With Junseo, she literally raised/groomed him into a human that can and will protect her to the best of his abilities. Because of this, If she’s hurt, he blames himself, so he has to help her for his sanity. With Jae o, she validates his existence and gives him a reason to live. She’s primed them to be like this for her using their weaknesses. They’re situations that wouldn’t exist if they weren’t so scarred as children.

I agree. That man actually needed to go

True, but so did the guys who support her. They’re not worse than her. At the most, 3 of them have awareness at similar levels

100% agree!!

He’s definitely twisted now. I can never tell what he’s thinking either.
He observes people in the same way and seems to categorise them and understand their usefulness to him/them quickly. But I think it’s because he grew up with her.

He grew up watching and understanding life from her lens. He doesn’t find joy in things or actually find them funny because she doesn’t really either. Using guilt and naivety, she turned him into a sort of shadow of her when they were just kids. A shadow that protects and understands her, gives her what she needs and exists for her. His feelings seem numb because his sense of self is sort of tied to her I think. I think the fits of rage are his obsession and frustration coming out. He’s like a suppressed human being. She couldn’t get rid of his empathy though so that’s why he wasn’t completely ruined and that’s what they disagree on.
So I’m trying to say that maybe he’s a “programmed” sociopath? Maybe therapy could fix him though. I’ve definitely wasn’t born with his psychopathic tendencies. She sort of created them. So I don’t his character can be explained outside of his victim hood. But that’s just my theory.

When he was watching her with Jae O and In Gang, I think he was annoyed and wondering why she never thinks to treat him like she treats them? Why can she try to love In Gang and laugh with Jae O? Why cant he have this with her too? Why does she only hurt him? But it’s because she comes to him in her truest form lol. But maybe he was thinking something else? I’m not sure

I wish I could read him though. I just want to know what he’s thinking 😫 but he keeps it tightly wrapped away. Idk about the Lena situation yet. I guess we’ll find out if Ah Jin sent him to her or not. If she didn’t then that would be super intriguing!!

Omg. Why did I think they would release an episode today too😭😭😭

No no it’s not that I like her. It’s just that it’s not her fault she was created as someone who doesn’t “like people”. She was literally created rotten lol. Instead, what makes her bad is her continuous cruelty. Sociopaths can choose to if to make bad or good decisions like regular people because she’s an adult that now understands that her actions hurt others so of course she’ll have to be punished for this. I understand that.

“I can’t wait to see her destruction for her evil actions”. So far, only one person who was originally innocent is in prison. Jun Seo and Jae O know what they’re getting with her. They’re not blind. It’s true that she’s taking advantage of them but they’re not completely averse to this. Jun Seo’s situation is more complicated because she created his dependency on her, but at the same time he knows what she’s up to. Jae O needs her to feel validated. So far, they haven’t hurt anyone (that didn’t deserve it) by helping her just yet. The situation with the man in prison- she did that herself. She’s just largely manipulated people’s thinking so far. But it hasn’t caused much harm yet. I’m just trying to say that of course she will meet her downfall but with the way people say it you’d think an innocent person was already dead. It will happen I’m sure but until then the comments will make you think it already did.
So many corrupt politicians and regular cruel people are just as bad because they have feelings and still do these and even worse things, and are walking around freely. But now that I think about it, maybe some of those people are also sociopaths because how can a person be so cruel damn

I’ve noticed this weird misunderstanding on MDL recently. A show being a good show doesn’t mean the characters are nice or good people. It means either one or more of these things have been done well: the plot, directing, character set up and development, acting, music accompaniments. The show doesn’t need to teach some moral lesson. It can just show you what happened. You the viewer can make judgements about the characters actions, but good execution of the storytelling is what makes a good show.

Well it’s not her fault that she doesn’t like people. She can’t help it. She was either created like that or the circumstances have permanently damaged her ability to feel those emotions. That part of her is damaged. Not “liking” people is not the problem. Disregarding their feelings so thoroughly in using them is what is bad.
Also Junseo is definitely realising he can’t fix her lolll

He was like - oh not this again😭

I was also curious about it. Jun Seo watched her as if he were watching the best movie. I think Jun Seo thinks she's a little normal around Jaeo and finds things he says funny, which is totally different from how she is with him, so to some extent, he thinks Jaeo's company is healthier for her. Personally, I think she really does find Jaeo sort of funny, but in the end, it's not the true her. She likes Jaeo because he'll do anything for her, but doesn't tell him what she's thinking and instead tells Jun Seo. So she's not being her barest self with even Jaeo. So maybe she was half sincere and half not?

Me too, omg. I started to wonder for a moment if he is the bigger manipulator? but nah, it's still her lol. His eyes are literally psycho sometimes

The director is great at making the scenes uncomfortable. Even with just looks, hand placements and hugs. Sometimes nothing much is going on, but I'm uncomfortable because the energy conveyed is constantly toeing the line. That's really cool.

I feel like she's now worse than when she was a teenager. Her eyes are flatter than before, and she's constantly irritated and done with everything. She seems more sadistic, too and even more impulsive and less willing to see/pretend to see people as people. Of course, it only got this bad because of everything that's happened but damn

The scene where Lena hit her outside their building was like watching someone wake a sleeping python. I was like, broo you're finished. Don't you have common sense?

Watching her and Jun seo together is crazy. She treats him like he's something that belongs to her, which is interesting. I wish I could pick his brain because I want to know exactly what he's thinking. Why did he go back to her? Was she punishing him somehow by telling him about trying to love someone else? I loooove the dead eyes Jun Seo gave Jae Ho when he said "I thought you were into each other". That shot is so funny😭😂

Also, when she said, "My trauma turned into your commodity?" and he avoided her eyes immediately. Didn't dare lie to her because she'd sniff it out in a nanosecond, which means he did think she could be mad about it. But I was like, is she actually mad? It's partly his trauma too, but ig.

Heo In Gang- She's going to leave that man in tatters. He had her right the first time. It's good to trust your instincts but she didn't give him a chance to breathe. I wish she would be kinder about it at least because he's done nothing to you 😭Laughing while he's in pain?😭

She's going to leave him in tatters, I'm sure. She doesn't come with another option😫Poor guy is finished

He actually crashed out with that tear I was in shock

Oops sorry!!

Yes of course, as I said, I agree with you. What the adults did to her was wrong. No one is denying that, and neither is the show denying that. That doesn’t change the reality that sending an innocent man to prison is also wrong. Using people and discarding them isn't right no matter who does it. It’s in all her right to get vengeance against those who wronged her and it would have been nice if that doesn’t come with consequences, but it does. It would have been nice if she didn’t drag an innocent person into it, but she did. She has gone through a lot, yes but does he deserve to be randomly dragged in because she’s had a hard life? No. If he agreed to help her, then it would be different. She issued people as she has been used, and does that make sense in her case? Yes. Is it still wrong? Still, yes.