People are blaming netizens and gossip scandal about this matter. Also acting as if T.O.P., just for his celebrity, didn't have a normal family, with parents, to guide and direct him, and that he should have some different system for persecution than the rest of the South Korean citizenry. Or even that this isn't a matter to discuss because it's somehow gossip.
1. South Korea has it's own laws about this drug, whether you agree with it or not, that are much stricter than most other countries. That's a decision made by lawmakers who are put in place by Koreans, and have been on the books for decades. This is the decision that the Korean society has chosen on this matter. I watch Korean esports guys who have a major issue when in a gaming house where they have to be with 3 other American players who may legally smoke pot, but if these Koreans are discovered to participate, upon renewal of their visas, when returning home, if there's any suspicions on them they can be immediately forced to provide hair samples. No law enforcement, even in a state that restricts pot use, would be allowed such access without having actually CAUGHT them in the act or with possession. This is what most don't get. South Korea is strict about this law, and they don't care if you smoked in their country or outside their country, if you did the drug and they can test your hair that holds the evidence of it for a month, you will be found guilty, and you will receive jail time. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, agree with the laws, think pot is safe, or your status. Everyone is equal treated the same.
2. The difference between T.O.P. and GD is that the manner in which he was caught he had come up with an excuse that he didn't know what it was. Whether true or not, there's honestly no way they could prove without a doubt that his statement was wrong. T.O.P. was with another person who got caught doing the drug or with the drug on a separate occasion and gave up T.O.P. and possibly others as people she got the drug from, did the drug with, etc. There's no out here for T.O.P., no excuses, he tested positive and it's over. He is removed from his police duty officially yesterday and that will only happen if he's going to be going to court. Unless he can have some defense, he will definitely get jail time. That means jailtime, plus having to do his 18 month conscription over, and essentially, with how bad South Koreans take drug abuse and their memories, think like Park Bom, last a long time plus GD's case, his career is most likely going to be over for a long time because of this. He won't be able to perform, etc. at all. The citizenry won't allow it.
3. Because this has a huge effect on his career, this is no diferent than discussing Kim Woo Bin's cancer, as a topic that will affect their ablity to perform. T.O.P. will not be acting OR singing on a stage or in public for a long time to come. This is a fact. There's no way around the matter.
4. There is a reason why South Korea has the highest suicide rate among all the developed countries of the world. The pressure of societies views about your person and the push to be the best, the prettiest, the most successful individula, coupled with an ongoing promotion of nepotism, in addition to South Korea being a paleo-society with a long history that includes similar aspects seen in all Asian cultures that emphasis "face" and "family pride", suicide is STILL an option considered to deal with life's difficulties versus going to see a therapist, etc. As T.O.P., gets released from his police duty, he sees what has happened to other celebrities with even lesser "drug scandals" and what has happened to their careers, and most likely realizes just how irreparable damaged his career will be, that he likely is thinking "what can I do with my life now, and how do I go out in public"??? He is in intensive care for a drug overdose. This is honestly the worst, most horrible news for his family, BigBang, and T.O.P. himself.
We should PRAY for him and his family strongly. This is a dark time. We should discuss, yes even disagree with, South Korea's drug laws. Fair enough. But regardless of our disagreement on the matter, this is the law in South Korea and drug abuse is strictly enforced. Many an artist, actor/singer, has gone to jail over it and some have committed suicide as well..maybe that's not acknowledged as much "internationally" because those folks aren't as well known outside the country as T.O.P. but this isn't a "new" situation, nor is he being treated worse than any other citizen in South Korea would be over this matter. But this man will definitely not be in the public eye as an entertainer for a very long, long time, thus, forget him showing up in any drama anytime soon. MY HEART BLEEDS FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY BECAUSE THIS IS DEVASTING NEWS ALL AROUND. I hope he can find some peace and solice among his friends and family to successfully get through this horrible trial and dark times for his life.
it's because yoo seung ho already completed his military service i keep forgetting he's only 23 damn…
Xiumen is 90-Line; L is 92-Line; & YSH is 93-Line; it's just that YSH has had a more productive acting life than most adult actors before he even reached the age of 18. lol...I still remember absolutely adoring him as the Jade Emperor in Arang & the Magistrate, which was one of the first K-Dramas that got me hooked and obsessed, especially with any type of historical genre.
I dont like KSH she is very young IMO this historical dramas need more experienced leads, but oh well, I ll be…
I'm still trying to understand why you all think she's not experienced in HISTORICAL dramas, let alone being cast due to "popularity"??? **scratches head** KSH is not an idol and has only be in a handful of "student/school" dramas to be considered "cast for fanbase". How did KSH garner her popularity??? That's MY point. She got her POPULARITY because she's a GOOD and EXPERIENCED actress. lol... She's played the YOUNG VERSION of the following POPULAR dramas, to which she was even earning credit as doing a better job in her role than when the actress who transitioned to adulthood was able to do with their character. THAT'S why she's so popular for playing in THESE popular shows:
1. The Girl Who Sees Smells young version of Choi Eun Sul
2. Triangle young version of Hwang Shin Hye
3. I Can Hear Your Voice young version of Jang Hye Sung
4. Birth Secret young version of Yi Hyun
5. IRIS 2 young version of Ji Soo Yun
6. Missing You young version of Lee Soo Yeon
7. Padam Padam young version of Jung Ji Nah
8. Thorn Birds young version of Jung Eun
As for HISTORICALS she's played in her fair share of them as well. Historicals KSH has been in:
1. The Duo young version of Geum Ok
2. Moon That Embraces the Sun young version of Yoon Bo Kyung
3. Rooftop Prince young version of Hong Se NA/Crown Princess Hwa Yong
4. The Queen in Goblin
5. Sol Bi in the movie I Am A King
6. The Last Princess movie as young version of Princess Deok Hye
I'm sorry but SoHee has had small parts in only a couple historicals, and L has no experience whatsoever in this genre. It's not just that the leads in this drama have many awards and praise over many years compared to the others, but the idea that either of them were cast NOT because they are actually good actors but because they are popular... when the EXACT reason either KSH & YSH are popular IS because they have been EXCELLENT ACTORS for YEARS in their youth and PROVEN their worth... I'm trying to see how L/SoHee have more merit in this regard. It's just not a realistic comment whatsoever. PERIOD.
I dont like KSH she is very young IMO this historical dramas need more experienced leads, but oh well, I ll be…
..don't take this wrong... but the actors Yeo Jin Goo, Kim So Hyun, Kim Yoo Jung, &
Yoo Seung Ho have earned unbelieable praise from the S.Korea entertainment industry for years as child actors for shows like The Moon that Embraces the Sun, Missing You, Arang and the Magistrate, Operation Proposal, & Dong Yi, where their child actor roles are even considered the BEST part of the drama, especially Missing You which was panned as crap after Yoo Jin Goo & Kim So Hyun no longer appeared. Yeo Jin Goo, since 2008, has won numerous child/rookie/best actor awards for no less than 6 different dramas. Kim So Hyun, since 2012, has won numerous child/rookie/best actress awards for 5 different dramas. Kim Yoo Jung, since 2006, has won numerous child/rookie/best actress awards for 8 different dramas. Yoo Seung Ho, since 2002, has won child/rookie/best actor awards in 6 different dramas.
These 4 actors have had long, successful, and praiseworthy careers, that many adult actors would die to have their current resumes. None of these actors are "idols". They earned their status and praise from their dedication to their craft and their hard work, much of which came from their interactions together within the dramas I mentioned above, so much so, that many fans of their acting have been waiting years for them to grow up and begin acting together in adult roles.
I started to read this back and forth and had to laugh. I'm like, "what?" But I'm trying to understand how L & Yoo So Hee are considered "more experienced" and much more worth watching then the leads or because of "chemistry" in a "webtoon". I'm not saying that anyone's thoughts are not coming from their own VALID biases and likes that float their boat. I'm not one to even say that a person cannot want to watch a drama merely because their favorite sexy idol is in the drama. But, I cannot in good conscience let factual matters slide when it comes across as insulting talented actors careers in a way that makes absolutely no sense to me. Take Yoon So Hee for instance: She's a German national who was going to college for chemical engineering when she got noticed at TvN & SuperJunior events & a cameo in a ShiNee video. She's been on hiatus from college ever since, and even acted along side Kim Yoo Jung in Secret Door. She was in 10 episodes playing the older version of Kim Yoo Jung's character, Seo Ji-dam. Kim Yoo Jung, who was in 13 of the episodes, won 22nd SBS Drama Awards, New Star Award in 2014 for her part...and Yoon So Hee??? My point, there's a marked difference that no one can deny between an idol like "L", who has played in 10 different dramas since 2011 and only been nominated once and never won anything for his acting skills versus the likes of Yoo Seung Ho & Kim So Hyun.
As for their age difference, Kim So Hyun, this past year, already had one of her first female ADULT roles along side an idol, Ok Taec Yeon [28], in Bring It On, Ghost with numerous deep kissing scenes. She's a year older now and working with a 23 year old in a drama that will likely be no different, in terms of romance, than what happened between Park Bo Gum and Kim Yoo Jung in Love in the Moonlight. She's already crossed over the ADULT romantic lead threshold when she did Bring It On, Ghost. You cannot put the genie back in the bottle, and why would anyone want to stunt these great actors development and maturing their careers. Yoo Seung Ho went into the military at 18 just for this reason, to come back as an adult and get the juicy main lead roles. The girls are no different....
...but to call these folks "inexperienced", I just had to speak my mind, because their biographies speak to how untrue that statement truly is... I just couldn't keep quiet about it.
Really cute one. Can anyone tell me if Chinese dramas have just dramatically improved lately, there are more available…
My Sunshine; Prince of Lan Ling; Legend of Concubine Zhen Huan; Boss & Me; Scarlet Heart; Sound of the Desert; Fall in Love Like a Star; Marry Me, or Not; Rock N Road; Love Me if You Dare... these are come of my favs from China/Taiwan
The cast is all within the same age range, and I think that PHJ had a bit of a say in this process after all that went done for the drama version. It's not like they're high schoolers. They're supposed to be early to mid-20s so it's not difficult for **actors** to dress themselves up, make-up or otherwise, to look that age considering they're only between the ages of 28-33. It's not like it's a 10 year age difference in what they're supposed to be..AND they are all around the same age so I personally think it will work.
27 episodes in; the acting is wooden; I feel no chemistry from the leads; and it's going into the typical trope of 'he pursues her, his family doesn't like her, her family & his family have poverty issues; he sleeps with her before marriage; rich girl wants him; rich girl gets parents to force him to marry her by hanging his debt over his head; he's not honest with poor girl.." at this point I can see In So getting screwed over, and lots of back and forth...but the acting is not worth going through the melodrama and with 120 episodes it's gonna be a long ride of angst. I'm not gonna bother anymore.
For those of you debating if she's dead or not, the doctor diagnosis her with leukemia in around, I'm guessing, the year 2008-09, and gave her a 10% chance to live 5 years. The present time is 2016.
1. South Korea has it's own laws about this drug, whether you agree with it or not, that are much stricter than most other countries. That's a decision made by lawmakers who are put in place by Koreans, and have been on the books for decades. This is the decision that the Korean society has chosen on this matter. I watch Korean esports guys who have a major issue when in a gaming house where they have to be with 3 other American players who may legally smoke pot, but if these Koreans are discovered to participate, upon renewal of their visas, when returning home, if there's any suspicions on them they can be immediately forced to provide hair samples. No law enforcement, even in a state that restricts pot use, would be allowed such access without having actually CAUGHT them in the act or with possession. This is what most don't get. South Korea is strict about this law, and they don't care if you smoked in their country or outside their country, if you did the drug and they can test your hair that holds the evidence of it for a month, you will be found guilty, and you will receive jail time. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, agree with the laws, think pot is safe, or your status. Everyone is equal treated the same.
2. The difference between T.O.P. and GD is that the manner in which he was caught he had come up with an excuse that he didn't know what it was. Whether true or not, there's honestly no way they could prove without a doubt that his statement was wrong. T.O.P. was with another person who got caught doing the drug or with the drug on a separate occasion and gave up T.O.P. and possibly others as people she got the drug from, did the drug with, etc. There's no out here for T.O.P., no excuses, he tested positive and it's over. He is removed from his police duty officially yesterday and that will only happen if he's going to be going to court. Unless he can have some defense, he will definitely get jail time. That means jailtime, plus having to do his 18 month conscription over, and essentially, with how bad South Koreans take drug abuse and their memories, think like Park Bom, last a long time plus GD's case, his career is most likely going to be over for a long time because of this. He won't be able to perform, etc. at all. The citizenry won't allow it.
3. Because this has a huge effect on his career, this is no diferent than discussing Kim Woo Bin's cancer, as a topic that will affect their ablity to perform. T.O.P. will not be acting OR singing on a stage or in public for a long time to come. This is a fact. There's no way around the matter.
4. There is a reason why South Korea has the highest suicide rate among all the developed countries of the world. The pressure of societies views about your person and the push to be the best, the prettiest, the most successful individula, coupled with an ongoing promotion of nepotism, in addition to South Korea being a paleo-society with a long history that includes similar aspects seen in all Asian cultures that emphasis "face" and "family pride", suicide is STILL an option considered to deal with life's difficulties versus going to see a therapist, etc. As T.O.P., gets released from his police duty, he sees what has happened to other celebrities with even lesser "drug scandals" and what has happened to their careers, and most likely realizes just how irreparable damaged his career will be, that he likely is thinking "what can I do with my life now, and how do I go out in public"??? He is in intensive care for a drug overdose. This is honestly the worst, most horrible news for his family, BigBang, and T.O.P. himself.
We should PRAY for him and his family strongly. This is a dark time. We should discuss, yes even disagree with, South Korea's drug laws. Fair enough. But regardless of our disagreement on the matter, this is the law in South Korea and drug abuse is strictly enforced. Many an artist, actor/singer, has gone to jail over it and some have committed suicide as well..maybe that's not acknowledged as much "internationally" because those folks aren't as well known outside the country as T.O.P. but this isn't a "new" situation, nor is he being treated worse than any other citizen in South Korea would be over this matter. But this man will definitely not be in the public eye as an entertainer for a very long, long time, thus, forget him showing up in any drama anytime soon. MY HEART BLEEDS FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY BECAUSE THIS IS DEVASTING NEWS ALL AROUND. I hope he can find some peace and solice among his friends and family to successfully get through this horrible trial and dark times for his life.
1. The Girl Who Sees Smells young version of Choi Eun Sul
2. Triangle young version of Hwang Shin Hye
3. I Can Hear Your Voice young version of Jang Hye Sung
4. Birth Secret young version of Yi Hyun
5. IRIS 2 young version of Ji Soo Yun
6. Missing You young version of Lee Soo Yeon
7. Padam Padam young version of Jung Ji Nah
8. Thorn Birds young version of Jung Eun
As for HISTORICALS she's played in her fair share of them as well. Historicals KSH has been in:
1. The Duo young version of Geum Ok
2. Moon That Embraces the Sun young version of Yoon Bo Kyung
3. Rooftop Prince young version of Hong Se NA/Crown Princess Hwa Yong
4. The Queen in Goblin
5. Sol Bi in the movie I Am A King
6. The Last Princess movie as young version of Princess Deok Hye
I'm sorry but SoHee has had small parts in only a couple historicals, and L has no experience whatsoever in this genre. It's not just that the leads in this drama have many awards and praise over many years compared to the others, but the idea that either of them were cast NOT because they are actually good actors but because they are popular... when the EXACT reason either KSH & YSH are popular IS because they have been EXCELLENT ACTORS for YEARS in their youth and PROVEN their worth... I'm trying to see how L/SoHee have more merit in this regard. It's just not a realistic comment whatsoever. PERIOD.
Yoo Seung Ho have earned unbelieable praise from the S.Korea entertainment industry for years as child actors for shows like The Moon that Embraces the Sun, Missing You, Arang and the Magistrate, Operation Proposal, & Dong Yi, where their child actor roles are even considered the BEST part of the drama, especially Missing You which was panned as crap after Yoo Jin Goo & Kim So Hyun no longer appeared. Yeo Jin Goo, since 2008, has won numerous child/rookie/best actor awards for no less than 6 different dramas. Kim So Hyun, since 2012, has won numerous child/rookie/best actress awards for 5 different dramas. Kim Yoo Jung, since 2006, has won numerous child/rookie/best actress awards for 8 different dramas. Yoo Seung Ho, since 2002, has won child/rookie/best actor awards in 6 different dramas.
These 4 actors have had long, successful, and praiseworthy careers, that many adult actors would die to have their current resumes. None of these actors are "idols". They earned their status and praise from their dedication to their craft and their hard work, much of which came from their interactions together within the dramas I mentioned above, so much so, that many fans of their acting have been waiting years for them to grow up and begin acting together in adult roles.
I started to read this back and forth and had to laugh. I'm like, "what?" But I'm trying to understand how L & Yoo So Hee are considered "more experienced" and much more worth watching then the leads or because of "chemistry" in a "webtoon". I'm not saying that anyone's thoughts are not coming from their own VALID biases and likes that float their boat. I'm not one to even say that a person cannot want to watch a drama merely because their favorite sexy idol is in the drama. But, I cannot in good conscience let factual matters slide when it comes across as insulting talented actors careers in a way that makes absolutely no sense to me. Take Yoon So Hee for instance: She's a German national who was going to college for chemical engineering when she got noticed at TvN & SuperJunior events & a cameo in a ShiNee video. She's been on hiatus from college ever since, and even acted along side Kim Yoo Jung in Secret Door. She was in 10 episodes playing the older version of Kim Yoo Jung's character, Seo Ji-dam. Kim Yoo Jung, who was in 13 of the episodes, won 22nd SBS Drama Awards, New Star Award in 2014 for her part...and Yoon So Hee??? My point, there's a marked difference that no one can deny between an idol like "L", who has played in 10 different dramas since 2011 and only been nominated once and never won anything for his acting skills versus the likes of Yoo Seung Ho & Kim So Hyun.
As for their age difference, Kim So Hyun, this past year, already had one of her first female ADULT roles along side an idol, Ok Taec Yeon [28], in Bring It On, Ghost with numerous deep kissing scenes. She's a year older now and working with a 23 year old in a drama that will likely be no different, in terms of romance, than what happened between Park Bo Gum and Kim Yoo Jung in Love in the Moonlight. She's already crossed over the ADULT romantic lead threshold when she did Bring It On, Ghost. You cannot put the genie back in the bottle, and why would anyone want to stunt these great actors development and maturing their careers. Yoo Seung Ho went into the military at 18 just for this reason, to come back as an adult and get the juicy main lead roles. The girls are no different....
...but to call these folks "inexperienced", I just had to speak my mind, because their biographies speak to how untrue that statement truly is... I just couldn't keep quiet about it.