I’m 2 yrs late… but in the original American version of Suits…. Luo Bin and Li Na equivalent ended up getting married…. Harvey Spectre and Donna basically…
I loved Zhu Zhu as Li Na… I thought she emulated the character perfectly…
Even his office is almost an exact replica of Harvey Spectre’s, actually the entire law firm is almost exactly a copy of the Suits set….. lol…. Zhu Zhu did a perfect rendition of Donna, loved her… and “Wang Qi Nian” as Louis Litt is superrrr funny, he’s a natural, flawless… 🤣 Louis Litt is such a difficult character to pull off..
I’m only so-so with Mike’s equivalent… I find Dai Xi slightly annoying, and I didn’t like how they dumbed down the character versus Mike…. Like why did they make her so childish, clueless and brash…..? Mike was sucha cool character albeit also impulsive at times but defo not immature and ignorant…. And one thing I really didn’t like is why on Earth would they make her cry at work……? Crying at work in front of your manager, your peers, your colleagues……… 😒 Even interns nowadays wouldn’t do it…. So they switched the genders for ML’s mentor and mentee…. The entire drama is almost exactly like the original Suits except for the subject of the cases and some tweaks…
The producers changed the genders of a few characters, and also changed the backstory of Mike’s character because it wouldn’t have passed censorship, wot he did was illegal…. That’s where it loses out because all the tweaks caused the show to be less impactful and dramatic… think this was intentional to cater to the Asian culture… they definitely smoothed out all the eccentricities and extreme bits.. I.e Jessica Pearson was such a striking and powerful character but they changed the character to a male figure because a relationship where the gender is reversed is viewed as unconventional and unseemly in Asia. How unfortunate… but I’m glad they maintained how Li Na had to fight for wot she deserved at work and was unashamed in doing so, because that was also wot happened to Donna and actually that is one of the most realistic things that women have to face in corporate…. It was painstakingly realistic and real-life. I’ve experienced something similar myself, so did my best friend and other colleagues etc… I truly salute Li Na/Donna for it… and sadly in reality, most male bosses are like Luo Bin/Harvey…. They try to talk you out of it, avoid it, delay it…. Some are so bad that they even make you feel guilty by insinuating that you don’t deserve it although they’ve promised prior which is now probably considered gaslighting (that’s when it’s time to resign)… and I had to learn the hard way that in life, it truly is as presented in the drama…. 😢 When you want a helicopter, you ask for a plane…. And you have to ask repeatedly regardless of how you feel because people will always push back… and as a manager, I also understood the natural differences between male vs. female and why Luo Bin did wot he did, that would most likely have happened in real life too.
Really surprised at the low rating here… I felt it’s a 8 to 8.5 per MDL standards…. I actually enjoyed it more than the official Korean remake of Suits… the cast here for one is on average much better/closer to the original Suits… I’m so glad I gave this a try, I nearly didn’t because of the low score… and my disappointment in the Korean remake… I was a big fan of the original Suits.
Also, I’ve always found Wang Yang to be a very charming and a solid actor…. But after watching him here, I really have new respect for him…. His versatility really came through…
oh no do i have to wait until episode 57, only got to ep 3 now
Haha, they get together much earlier, you can observe the progress in their affection for one another. I remembered it was Ep 57…. But you could probably feel it earlier…..? I even went back to rewatch some of the episodes randomly… they are kinda awkward initially… totally wouldn’t have felt they could be sooooo sweet. 🤣 you are at episode 3… they don’t have the best chemistry… no?
As much as the drama was super polarising…. I.e super realistic vs. Super illogical/unrealistic wrapped up in a bundle…. So many specific scenes ‘hit close to home’…. I.e ‘I’ve witnessed it growing up, I’ve experienced it myself, I’ve seen it happen to friends/colleagues, I’ve been asked about it’ etc etc.
The problem arises when all these elements, scenes, themes, realism, friendship etc are weaved into one…. The final product comes off as kinda weird and makes you wonder if one should view this as a slice-of-life, realistic, thought-provoking watch or an entertainment watch… and it most certainly didn’t come off as a combination of both…
I still want to say…. After watching the 1st episode…. I couldn’t stop myself from continuing just to find out… and I just got sucked in…. Amongst all the jarring inconsistencies in logic.
P.S - I discovered post-completion that this is another Feng Xiao Gang drama…. 🤣 I watched Echo which was just about as controversial as this one…. Lol… albeit a completely different genre… but one thing is for sure is the whole topic of feminism received polarising opinions, mostly negative…. And somehow only applies to his dramas, not his movies…..? I’m not his fan neither anti-fan, just found this amusing, regardless… after these 2 experiences, I do really look forward to his dramas… ✌🏻
Peng Pai....he seems , at first glance, a successful, even tempered nice kind of guy but why is he in the wrong…
Lol. Although I’m 2 yrs late… but I just want to say, I totally felt the same way…. I believe it’s coz he is a rendition of a lot of guys we meet in real life (I.e kudos to the actor, but his entire physique, demeanour combined with the traits of the character brought it to life, making it so very relatable).
In a way he is actually super ‘real’…. At least that’s wot I thought. Mainly coz in any relationship (including familial), you never really know unless there is a real conflict of interest. A lot of the other male leads also remind me of guys I’ve met in real life…. But Peng Pai was the one who made me continue in Ep 1, on top of Gina Jin… just to find out how they end…
Cai Xiao Lie lost her child and called Zhou Na that she's sorry and ask her to accompany her.Zuo Na Father goes…
I kinda felt the same BUT they did get a divorce… as in Zuo Na’s parents finally got a divorce with her mother getting most of the money/assets… and they kinda insinuated that her dad and Cai Xiao Lei might have ended things….. given the miscarriage.
So I would say from a ‘I’m watching a TV drama’ perspective it was kinda infuriating….. not even kidding, but realistically…. I don’t know… I think that could really have been the case if something like that were to happen in Mainland… I personally found it unrealistic, but at the same time if I were to really think about it, it could have also been viewed as ‘realistic’…..? But I was 🤬 whilst watching the whole thing unfold. Lol. Someone at the bottom commented on gaslighting…. Which I actually agree.
Cai Xiao Lie lost her child and called Zhou Na that she's sorry and ask her to accompany her.Zuo Na Father goes…
Hey, do you know if they got a verdict on the Bei Le case? I tried rewatching because I thought I missed it but it seems like it just ended with his ridiculous mother storming out of the law firm….? Kinda disappointed they didn’t show the courtroom scene for this case.
Shitz, am sad after reading some of the comments and reviews, it looks like this fell under the category of ‘as the C-drama progresses, it becomes weirder and eventually ends ridiculously’…. SIGHS… I watched the first 8 episodes when it started airing and then paused to wait for it to finish coz I actually thought it was pretty good and refreshing.
Going to continue watching as I still have a glimmer of hope… 😝 and drop it if it really gets too ridiculous….
Edit: I completed it… though now I can understand why some comments are on the extreme end of disliking it. I loved the cases in the sense that I personally found them very realistic and relatable to modern Asian societies… some of them are more specific to Mainland and some are more general…. A lot of them depict issues and things we’ve either seen, heard of or faced it ourselves…
The downside is related to the outcome of some cases, which were at times literally infuriating….. like you literally feel rage boiling inside you… lol, as much as it’s just a TV drama… so this bit is likely related to censorship i.e the messages that they want to send in light of Mainland’s current social issues, specifically it’s an obvious bias towards old folks and parents; filial piety. In this sense, is where I’m not so sure it’s realistic… to me it felt kinda unrealistic but it’s also difficult to predict wot a person would do…. It is true that each individual could make very different decisions, leading to very different outcomes. I spse this is why the comments below+reviews up there are also pretty polarising. But overall there were no weird edits or uneven pacing…. Also, no randomness etc. So I found the series pretty consistent throughout. I actually really enjoyed it albeit the disappointment in some of the outcomes of the cases… Defo made the whole series appear too ‘forced’/scripted/unnatural…
He looks almost exactly the same to when he was young… like in Autumn’s Tale. It’s like more than 2 decades ago… It’s crazy… they should study his DNA for youth and ageing.
Glad they brought JB back and YX now has a whole plethora of sworn brothers; JB, SMY, and LGC. My girl SYN cut…
Loooolll. The whole slow pacing worked super well for this scene as well. Coz I was thinking, seriously….? She’s going to do it? Nooo… she won’t…. Yes…. She willl…. Woah…. She did! And then I went, ah… he’s now really a eunuch…. 😂
yes, it turned as a happy ending on the last 5seconds 😉
One or two a year sounds about right. I mean if you are talking about really good ones in a year. Yea, I noticed this CGI thing recently…. There is a trend of over reliance emerging….
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I loved Zhu Zhu as Li Na… I thought she emulated the character perfectly…
I’m only so-so with Mike’s equivalent… I find Dai Xi slightly annoying, and I didn’t like how they dumbed down the character versus Mike…. Like why did they make her so childish, clueless and brash…..? Mike was sucha cool character albeit also impulsive at times but defo not immature and ignorant…. And one thing I really didn’t like is why on Earth would they make her cry at work……? Crying at work in front of your manager, your peers, your colleagues……… 😒 Even interns nowadays wouldn’t do it…. So they switched the genders for ML’s mentor and mentee…. The entire drama is almost exactly like the original Suits except for the subject of the cases and some tweaks…
The producers changed the genders of a few characters, and also changed the backstory of Mike’s character because it wouldn’t have passed censorship, wot he did was illegal…. That’s where it loses out because all the tweaks caused the show to be less impactful and dramatic… think this was intentional to cater to the Asian culture… they definitely smoothed out all the eccentricities and extreme bits.. I.e Jessica Pearson was such a striking and powerful character but they changed the character to a male figure because a relationship where the gender is reversed is viewed as unconventional and unseemly in Asia. How unfortunate… but I’m glad they maintained how Li Na had to fight for wot she deserved at work and was unashamed in doing so, because that was also wot happened to Donna and actually that is one of the most realistic things that women have to face in corporate…. It was painstakingly realistic and real-life. I’ve experienced something similar myself, so did my best friend and other colleagues etc… I truly salute Li Na/Donna for it… and sadly in reality, most male bosses are like Luo Bin/Harvey…. They try to talk you out of it, avoid it, delay it…. Some are so bad that they even make you feel guilty by insinuating that you don’t deserve it although they’ve promised prior which is now probably considered gaslighting (that’s when it’s time to resign)… and I had to learn the hard way that in life, it truly is as presented in the drama…. 😢 When you want a helicopter, you ask for a plane…. And you have to ask repeatedly regardless of how you feel because people will always push back… and as a manager, I also understood the natural differences between male vs. female and why Luo Bin did wot he did, that would most likely have happened in real life too.
Really surprised at the low rating here… I felt it’s a 8 to 8.5 per MDL standards…. I actually enjoyed it more than the official Korean remake of Suits… the cast here for one is on average much better/closer to the original Suits… I’m so glad I gave this a try, I nearly didn’t because of the low score… and my disappointment in the Korean remake… I was a big fan of the original Suits.
Also, I’ve always found Wang Yang to be a very charming and a solid actor…. But after watching him here, I really have new respect for him…. His versatility really came through…
The problem arises when all these elements, scenes, themes, realism, friendship etc are weaved into one…. The final product comes off as kinda weird and makes you wonder if one should view this as a slice-of-life, realistic, thought-provoking watch or an entertainment watch… and it most certainly didn’t come off as a combination of both…
I still want to say…. After watching the 1st episode…. I couldn’t stop myself from continuing just to find out… and I just got sucked in…. Amongst all the jarring inconsistencies in logic.
P.S - I discovered post-completion that this is another Feng Xiao Gang drama…. 🤣 I watched Echo which was just about as controversial as this one…. Lol… albeit a completely different genre… but one thing is for sure is the whole topic of feminism received polarising opinions, mostly negative…. And somehow only applies to his dramas, not his movies…..? I’m not his fan neither anti-fan, just found this amusing, regardless… after these 2 experiences, I do really look forward to his dramas… ✌🏻
In a way he is actually super ‘real’…. At least that’s wot I thought. Mainly coz in any relationship (including familial), you never really know unless there is a real conflict of interest. A lot of the other male leads also remind me of guys I’ve met in real life…. But Peng Pai was the one who made me continue in Ep 1, on top of Gina Jin… just to find out how they end…
So I would say from a ‘I’m watching a TV drama’ perspective it was kinda infuriating….. not even kidding, but realistically…. I don’t know… I think that could really have been the case if something like that were to happen in Mainland… I personally found it unrealistic, but at the same time if I were to really think about it, it could have also been viewed as ‘realistic’…..? But I was 🤬 whilst watching the whole thing unfold. Lol. Someone at the bottom commented on gaslighting…. Which I actually agree.
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Going to continue watching as I still have a glimmer of hope… 😝 and drop it if it really gets too ridiculous….
Edit: I completed it… though now I can understand why some comments are on the extreme end of disliking it. I loved the cases in the sense that I personally found them very realistic and relatable to modern Asian societies… some of them are more specific to Mainland and some are more general…. A lot of them depict issues and things we’ve either seen, heard of or faced it ourselves…
The downside is related to the outcome of some cases, which were at times literally infuriating….. like you literally feel rage boiling inside you… lol, as much as it’s just a TV drama… so this bit is likely related to censorship i.e the messages that they want to send in light of Mainland’s current social issues, specifically it’s an obvious bias towards old folks and parents; filial piety. In this sense, is where I’m not so sure it’s realistic… to me it felt kinda unrealistic but it’s also difficult to predict wot a person would do…. It is true that each individual could make very different decisions, leading to very different outcomes. I spse this is why the comments below+reviews up there are also pretty polarising. But overall there were no weird edits or uneven pacing…. Also, no randomness etc. So I found the series pretty consistent throughout. I actually really enjoyed it albeit the disappointment in some of the outcomes of the cases… Defo made the whole series appear too ‘forced’/scripted/unnatural…