I love how they changed the unrealistic ''comedy'' from the original, BUT the music is so sloppy and do not get me started on the piano and violin performances. In EP2 that violin ''battle'' was just....he hit all wrong notes, and in EP3 that Beethoven's Moonlight sonata 3rd mov. was SO sloppy, like he missed numerous notes that it shocked me! The actor knows how to play piano, so that's why I am even more shocked.
You can't just compare production based on countries. Just rate it by your enjoyment
As3 I disagree with your statement. Production teams themselves compare themselves with other countries in terms of production, because it is a way to learn and make your work better. It doesn't mean something negative, but take something positive out of it. Filmakers are often inspired by techniques which are done by foreign filmakers. Many and I mean many directors admit and even say who they were inspired by. And Chris is indeed very right that Korean production is always on the top. Thailand and other countries should take the opportunity and try to learn, since learning doesn't hurt anybody.
There are actually people with good voices in the ground currently from the little we got to hear of them in the…
Indeed I saw few potential stars with very good voice, but thanks to their genius part distribution they were lost in the crowd. I have I think 2 potential stars from I-LAND, but from Ground nobody, cause we got zero to none exposure and I hope in next episodes they will give them screentime :)
A very short review of EP2 from me : This EP only confirmed my first thoughts that the trainees are not thaaaat talented and do not show further potential - my subjective point and if it helps u in judging me, I attended art school majoring in singing. YES - Some have potential and I could hear it in their vocals, but majority of people from the I-LAND (I am judging them for now because they showed close to none performance from GROUND) do not have stunning traits. I cannot judge dancing since I am like a piece of log, but in terms of singing, majority were off key, the rhythm was meh, vocals were weak and what got me the most was, that at first they did not even pick people by singing, but dancing and hello guys? Group can survive with weaker dancing, but singing stands out the most and the member that was chosen for center - is this a joke?????
ALSO people fighting for higher positions when they clearly have lower range voice. U think your range can magically change? Yes, u can work on your vocals to make them stronger, but changing pitches is VERY hard to change, so them trying to sing so high was embarrasing and nothing more. Like those people must have super confidence to raise their hand for such high parts when they clearly cannot sing it.
The concept of this survival show is very new and unique but the set up of the voting isn't fair. They did not…
U can basically see human nature in this survival show. In first voting they let in worse members first because they did not want to look bad, but than they realized there might be no space left for themselves and thus voted the talented members out.
This is why I have hate-love relationship with this show. I really like honest people and this show shows just that with the voting system. On the other hand I hate their selfish and sometimes immature thinking, but this is not the show's fault - it is fault of the members.
I mean you have to consider how overwhelming that had to be. Literally the first thing they're doing is voting…
Hmmm, I get that they aren't judges, but I expected some fighting spirit? Like, isn't their priority to kiiiinda be selfish? Since they are in a survival show, shouldn't their no.1 goal be get into I-Land? I am coming from that, so that's why I was confused over their decision making.
Honestly, u are right, we do not know if rappers auditioned and if they were good, but I think they did audition just from the principle, that a lot of idol groups have rappers and they did audition as rappers, but yeah, we do not know this.
This is very subjective opinion when I say that I like groups having rappers, because it gives the songs balance. That's why I have hard time getting into groups without rappers - such as TXT.
I mean you have to consider how overwhelming that had to be. Literally the first thing they're doing is voting…
Hmmm, I do not know if heartless is the right word. Someone already told me that ''they trained for so little, give them time'' or similiar stuff, but I always argue back that these boys kinda knew what they were getting into. They were not on the stage for the first time, they went there prior to the shooting. And even if it was heartless as u have said, the world of competition is just like that. I am for example fan of figure skating and I can tell u that the panel judges do not care how much u have trained or how old u are, u simply have to make a perfect performance to earn your place in top 3. Also, a lot of them are not that young to think the way I said before. I think there are some 18+ or 20+ members even if they are few.
Also, someone may bash me for this, but I expected rappers to show up. Because IDOL does not mean only vocal power and it was sad for me to see no rappers there. I expected from Bighit to actually let rapper trainees in, but nope....
Question, totally irrelevant to the whole conversation, but why on hell is your name "Gook". Do you even know…
GUK and GOOK are both kiiiinda correct in romanization. There are two I think types of romanization. One uses ''OO'' to represent ㅜ the other type uses ''U'' to represent the letter ㅜ. It is up to teacher or student which romanization they want to use. Romanization is not even that good to use, but I want the name to be understood by both Korean and Non-Korean speakers, thus I have chosen to put in with romanji with OO type of romanization.
Question, totally irrelevant to the whole conversation, but why on hell is your name "Gook". Do you even know…
I am sorry, but can I ask why are u offended? It is a standard Korean name, so please forward your confusion I guess towards...I don't even know. Should I write that in hangeul? Would that sound better? I mean I just said that it is character's name....I mean why would I use slur on myself if we go by the definition u added? It...does not make sense and I am just left being confused XD
Question, totally irrelevant to the whole conversation, but why on hell is your name "Gook". Do you even know…
I speak Korean so I know what it means and if u saw the Korean drama Where your eyes linger than u would know it's character's name :D I mean....almost every Korean name has a meaning, so why get bothered by it?
Sometimes I wish to take the comment section to the hospital where I work at. Because only than u would see that the FL's behavior is expected to be that way and people saying it is romanticized - no, it is not. Even people with behavior issues have RIGHT to love and their love will never be the same as for people who do not suffer from any mental issue. U think all psychopats end up as killers? No! Psychoterapy is very effective, but they will never look completely ''normal''. If the show romanticized the FL she would never utter such lines as she did. Yes, real people with such issues might talk just like that. I bet u do not tell someone with Tourrete to stop the ticks, right? It is part of them and something such as she has...as the ML said, she was born with it.
holy sh*t i just realized that Zico is only a year older than SUGA/AGUSTD. i feel like even SUGA could've been…
Suga hates talent survival shows so I seriously doubt that he would ever be a judge. I think in his Daechwita he was very clear about survival shows :D
I ain't joining the drama going on below, but lemme say few things, which are subjective. Korean cinematography is known for it's unique and outstanding production, which is recognized in almost every Asian country. Many times we hear the lines, ''like in Korean drama'' which only means that Korean cinematography is really the top.
Yes, Thailand is producing a LOT of BL dramas and they give us skinship, but the directing and overall production is very low compared to Korean dramas to the point where it looks cliche and childish. In short, Thai series lack the mature factor and realism and if they do potrait real stuff, they often do not do it correctly. Also, let's not forget that Thai BL series lack the flexibility in terms of plot. Majority of BL dramas are school/uni centered and as I get older I find myself not liking this endless school trope.
Also, it is good to mention that Thailand often makes quantity over quality dramas and that is something I despise I think the most. Since BL is a new ''trend'' everyone wanna get their cut and thus they create cliche and bad quality dramas just to get aboard with the trend, which is so pathetic - yes, I said it.
IF u give me to watch non-BL dramas from S.Korea and Thailand with each having MDL rating of 6-7 I guarantee u that even than I would chose S.Korea, because even at their worst dramas the quality of camera and story is still better than Thailand. Did I try this experiment? Yes, I did.
If u disagree, u can comment, if u agree u can comment, but seriously I won't bother to respond. I just felt like getting this off of my chest and I have done just that, so my time about this topic ran out :)
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This is link to the sonata and how it should sound > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7RkEL6oRc
Compare this piece with the way he played and I assure u that even non-musicians will be able to hear the missed notes.
Production teams themselves compare themselves with other countries in terms of production, because it is a way to learn and make your work better. It doesn't mean something negative, but take something positive out of it. Filmakers are often inspired by techniques which are done by foreign filmakers. Many and I mean many directors admit and even say who they were inspired by. And Chris is indeed very right that Korean production is always on the top. Thailand and other countries should take the opportunity and try to learn, since learning doesn't hurt anybody.
This EP only confirmed my first thoughts that the trainees are not thaaaat talented and do not show further potential - my subjective point and if it helps u in judging me, I attended art school majoring in singing.
YES - Some have potential and I could hear it in their vocals, but majority of people from the I-LAND (I am judging them for now because they showed close to none performance from GROUND) do not have stunning traits.
I cannot judge dancing since I am like a piece of log, but in terms of singing, majority were off key, the rhythm was meh, vocals were weak and what got me the most was, that at first they did not even pick people by singing, but dancing and hello guys? Group can survive with weaker dancing, but singing stands out the most and the member that was chosen for center - is this a joke?????
ALSO people fighting for higher positions when they clearly have lower range voice. U think your range can magically change? Yes, u can work on your vocals to make them stronger, but changing pitches is VERY hard to change, so them trying to sing so high was embarrasing and nothing more. Like those people must have super confidence to raise their hand for such high parts when they clearly cannot sing it.
In first voting they let in worse members first because they did not want to look bad, but than they realized there might be no space left for themselves and thus voted the talented members out.
This is why I have hate-love relationship with this show. I really like honest people and this show shows just that with the voting system. On the other hand I hate their selfish and sometimes immature thinking, but this is not the show's fault - it is fault of the members.
Honestly, u are right, we do not know if rappers auditioned and if they were good, but I think they did audition just from the principle, that a lot of idol groups have rappers and they did audition as rappers, but yeah, we do not know this.
This is very subjective opinion when I say that I like groups having rappers, because it gives the songs balance. That's why I have hard time getting into groups without rappers - such as TXT.
U COULD....WHAT U DID....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOW COULD U....
MY HEART IS JUST.....DSDSDSAADHASDSA U BISH BL T.T
Also, someone may bash me for this, but I expected rappers to show up. Because IDOL does not mean only vocal power and it was sad for me to see no rappers there. I expected from Bighit to actually let rapper trainees in, but nope....
Because only than u would see that the FL's behavior is expected to be that way and people saying it is romanticized - no, it is not. Even people with behavior issues have RIGHT to love and their love will never be the same as for people who do not suffer from any mental issue. U think all psychopats end up as killers? No! Psychoterapy is very effective, but they will never look completely ''normal''. If the show romanticized the FL she would never utter such lines as she did. Yes, real people with such issues might talk just like that. I bet u do not tell someone with Tourrete to stop the ticks, right? It is part of them and something such as she has...as the ML said, she was born with it.
I think in his Daechwita he was very clear about survival shows :D
Korean cinematography is known for it's unique and outstanding production, which is recognized in almost every Asian country. Many times we hear the lines, ''like in Korean drama'' which only means that Korean cinematography is really the top.
Yes, Thailand is producing a LOT of BL dramas and they give us skinship, but the directing and overall production is very low compared to Korean dramas to the point where it looks cliche and childish. In short, Thai series lack the mature factor and realism and if they do potrait real stuff, they often do not do it correctly. Also, let's not forget that Thai BL series lack the flexibility in terms of plot. Majority of BL dramas are school/uni centered and as I get older I find myself not liking this endless school trope.
Also, it is good to mention that Thailand often makes quantity over quality dramas and that is something I despise I think the most. Since BL is a new ''trend'' everyone wanna get their cut and thus they create cliche and bad quality dramas just to get aboard with the trend, which is so pathetic - yes, I said it.
IF u give me to watch non-BL dramas from S.Korea and Thailand with each having MDL rating of 6-7 I guarantee u that even than I would chose S.Korea, because even at their worst dramas the quality of camera and story is still better than Thailand. Did I try this experiment? Yes, I did.
If u disagree, u can comment, if u agree u can comment, but seriously I won't bother to respond. I just felt like getting this off of my chest and I have done just that, so my time about this topic ran out :)