Nerd computer guy might be the son of the lost sister. Also, he had a cracked lip because he fought with RSJ in…
There was also a sister, right (she's in the picture with the two boys)? And she was young but older than YoonJae. And the way the men at the center looked at her was pretty creepy. IF she had time, she might have had a child by one of the creeps. And the computer nerdy guy whats-his-name is young enough to qualify, even if the show chart apparently shows him as older than he would have to be.
Is computer nerdy guy InSung? Then yes, he's suspect.
1. IF RSH is the killer, he must have borrowed the car to take the first victim. Then he swept over to make sure…
He has 13's memories. His "parents" (at least the mother) are definite they don't like him, nor do they expect anything good from him. Both of them were talking about how they took him from the center, but they would have returned him if the center was still open (and it wouldn't have caused problems). He even heard them talking about it before going to the playground to be comforted by RSH.
RSH couldn't be the adopted child they're talking about, because he's the one "older" than 13. He's also in the picture RSJ just saw at the end of the episode, and recognized as 11 in the wooden carvings group.
That leaves one adopted child (RSJ) that remembers what 13 would remember, who almost remembers who JYJ is, and who has lost his memory over some accident sometime when he was a kid.
So the only explanation that makes sense is that RSJ is 13 and RSH is 11, and IF RSH isn't behind this, then whoever started it wanted to pin the blame on 13/RSJ (and maybe involve 11 / RSH too, when they learned who he is). IF RSH isn't the killer, then he's probably trying hard to keep RSJ safe in spite of himself (because he's pretty dumb IMHO). If he IS the killer... he might have some unresolved anger issues about it.
1. IF RSH is the killer, he must have borrowed the car to take the first victim. Then he swept over to make sure…
ML is definitely 13. He lost his memory somehow, was adopted and might have come back to the center with his adoptive mom (she's connected to Mr Baek, she definitely would have had a chance to go there) and didn't remember about the other kids. The kid with the number 13 he "saw" there might have been a memory within a memory.
The mom kept praising RSH and talk RSJ down, if he was her blood son, she would've been more warm toward him (RSH is better loved in the end as he's an over-achiever so she has reason to be proud of him). As a child he heard them talk about how he was adopted, and couldn't be given back, and that he was YoonJae - he definitely is 13.
I am becoming fast convinced nerd killer is the sister's son. He'd have motivation to start the killings, then. I mean, even this drama must need some kind of logic for why these events happened :D
At episode 10, writer trying to show us that the judge is the killer…but I think he might not be the killer…
Nerd computer guy might be the son of the lost sister. Also, he had a cracked lip because he fought with RSJ in the center last ep. Also, he left the table at the wedding (that nobody mentioned this ep, LOL, did they forget about it?) and would have had an opportunity to poison the father's glass and kill the bride.
I think he will be the end killer. RSH though definitely is still suspicious, I don't think they'll let him off the hook. Maybe they're working together.
Now why would he leave the Center when he's just seen the photo of 11, Yoon Jae and his sister on Eun Ki's computer.…
I guess the scene will be retconned in the next ep and show how he did look for her THEN left. But he's not that much of a police officer, LOL, he'd do way better as a mobster with that attitude.
Lol the way rsj does things u know he cant be no. 11 as a kid. He looks quite dense as a kid...sorry ah. But who…
His parents (the mother, anyway) are in on the secret. The father seems clueless (might not be so naive though) but she was connected to Mr Baek, she definitely knew what was going on at the center. And she took two kids from there, too.
I doubt they'd be sincere with RSJ even if he asked.
Burning unanswered questions:-How first victim's earring ended up in ML's car? Brother judge found it, but never…
1. IF RSH is the killer, he must have borrowed the car to take the first victim. Then he swept over to make sure there's no evidence.
2. The figurines are in RSH's room. In the open. On the table, you know, just like any serial killer would do, neglecting to cover his tracks in the SAME house where a detective lives. (Granted, RSJ isn't much of a detective, but still, this case is one where even he can add 2 and 2 together...)
3. Both are adopted, they're 11 and 13 from the center. At this time, I think the sister is EunKi. EunKi's "mother" seems a bit fishy about how 13 died, I think she gave him to his (and RSH's) adoptive mother, and forged the papers. As to WHY RSH would have come later... what if 13 was adopted earlier, after he already lost his memory, and thus lived a better life for a while and NOT helped the other Number Kids while living it, before RSH was adopted too? Then the revenge chain (against the kids of the perpetrators of abuse at the center) would make some sense.
Wow that was... a reveal. Almost as suspenseful as the reveal of Sauron in ROP LOL /which was not.Edit: also,…
RSJ tells JEK not to go out, to lock herself in a room and wait for him. The next second she's out in the dark following the Pied Piper. Why so stupid, girl?
RSJ remembers RSH's face from when he - too - was adopted. He's in process of finding where JEK is and at the youth center, concerned about her safety. The next second, he teleported home and is finding the wooden figurines. I expect someone to get a Nobel Prize for this.
Is Det. Kang dead or not? He looked done in the bathroom scene, but the press conference had him grievously hurt and then they wouldn't let RSJ see him before whisking him / his body away. Will he make a comeback?
They cleared RSJ of the charges so fast? There's not a lot of evidence saying Mr. Baek killed the family, and Det. Kang's declaration should still stand. Or if not, they should suspend Det. Kang and not leave him merrily doing his duties.
But then this show doesn't really care much about police procedures and the chain of evidence, LOL.
Sooo. Who else thinks the second killer / accomplice is the young nerdy guy? If he's acting WITH RSH, then there might be more of the Number Kids involved. If he's acting separately, then RSH will prove to be trying to SAVE everybody, LOL. At this point, given it's halfway, I'm inclining to think the young guy will be the official endgame killer, and RSH will come out a hero. Bah.
Overall... AT LEAST RSJ didn't do his bull in the china shop routine this time, and took a bit of time to do things before slamming his head through walls and locked doors (first few scenes of ep 9 not included, LOL).
I think JEK is the lost Jung sister, anyone else has this feeling?
Edit: also, it looks like the show is somehow implying either RSJ - probably him - OR the young nerdy killer guy might be the lost son of the lady with the ramen place.
I don't think so. But the former is better. The rating for this looks blegh
The ratings for this drama were set when the subs were amazingly bad (like incredibly, awfully bad) and people either haven't returned to watch it in a better translation, or are not coming over from Viki to rate it). Or they might expect it's not what it actually is (NOT BL) so they're disappointed.
So, to would-be prospective watchers: There ARE better subs now, it's still not BL, it's WHOLESOME and cute and just the right thing for a nice evening when you want to regain faith in humanity. Give it a chance!
I had watched it back when it aired but IIRC the time loop ended because the bomb didn't go off. Also at first…
Lu Di wasn't there from the very beginning - when LSQ first realized she was looping, everybody, XHY included, was on the bus. Lu Di was the one who got on last, and it was AFTER the time she and the bus looped back to.
So, to be more clear - she got XHY out and he remembered because he was on board when the bomb went on, and before the start time of the loop. Lu Di wasn't, so despite being taken off that time, he couldn't loop back to the beginning with them and had to go through again and again with no memory of it.
RE what happened after, no, they didn't just go back to their regular lives LOL. I mean, obviously that was a terror threat, but the bomb didn't get off, so most of them never experienced more than confusion and fear for the bit they were aware of, except for LSQ and XHY who got to remember it all. After a while, though, they'd also start wondering if they didn't imagine it all, because our minds are resilient, inquisitive and usually find a way to cope with the extraordinary. But LSQ and XHY are now in a relationship, and the experience is also affecting the game (originally too bloody, remember?), Lu Di got the courage to come out to his parents about the cats, LOL, the culprits got some closure (at least the truth came out and the molester was also arrested), basically everybody in the bus got their lives changed.
So nope, not business as usual.
I still haven't read the novel, too many danmei in the way LOL, but the time'll come :D
From time to time I come here and look at the comments (sadly they're not increasing in numbers). This is one…
Sometimes, the one who understands you best is the one who you cannot allow to live, even if they will probably be the only one of a similar mind you might ever meet in your life.
Sacrifice is necessary, even if you will end up alone - for the greater good, or greater idea, people are unimportant, as long as it succeeds.
The Qin Emperor understands that Nameless (actually Broken Sword, but he had already sacrificed at that time and has managed to make Nameless understand) is his soulmate in his great endeavour, and that he has to die, so that everything under heaven would know law and order.
From time to time I come here and look at the comments (sadly they're not increasing in numbers). This is one of the best wuxia movies I've ever watched (there might be other movies that are better liked by other people, but this one - I like best).
I loved everything about it - first, the story (loosely based on the later life of the first Qin Emperor, he of the first unified China, ruler of everything UNDER HEAVEN (Tianxia) and buried in the mausoleum guarded by the famous Terracotta Army, after he managed to kill himself with mercury potions in a vain try to become immortal, and having already survived numerous assassination attempts).
Second, the cinematography. The colour scheme, the flow of the scenes, the tragedy painted out in beautiful scenery - it's amazing.
Third, the music. I've tried adding Tan Dun's OST to the page of the drama and found no info for Tan Dun; I've tried adding a page for Tan Dun (among many classical works and compositions, he also wrote the soundtracks for a few really well receiced movies, like this one, or like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon). I might've made some mistakes, so it was rejected.
She is dead. The death is offscreen because (as in the novel) it's horrifying - they killed her, burned her body (and officially also WN's, though obviously he was instead given over to XY for some nail-control experiments) and then they threw away the ashes. It didn't need shown, and it would have been too much drama added to an already drama-filled arc.
For that reason, I guess, the scriptwriters also twitched some of the Wen Clan people's fate, having them hanged so that WWX could come see their bodies and lose it, instead of following the much bloodier plot of the novel.
Things I've learned through this drama: - don't catch a tiger by the tail / also don't let a tiger go back to…
My main favourite chara in the final eps? The mobster sidekick. At least HE was interested in doing his own business. Though seriously, you have the knife at her throat... and you go looking for MPC? What for? You're a killer, dontcha know how to kill all of the sudden?!
Let's not talk about the gas tank Chen Mo was supposed to "kill himself" with LOL. A hanging or drowning would have solved that way faster. But drama reasons...
EVERYBODY forgot about poor ZY while they were going to the hospital. Even the cleaning lady got to ride the ambulance... but nobody mentioned ZY. LOL. WTH, did all their schedules got mixed up out of the blue?!
And the open ending... I mean, if TJC makes another season of it, why not? The kid is also cute. But I'd rather have another Under the Skin season, if we're open for business.
Overall, at least it made me giggle from time to time. I'd have wanted to see ZY as a lady... one... more... time... :D
PS the over-reaching plot points never got solved. The guy who swindled the mom is who, exactly? The "General's" mob team, or somebody else? The Grey Heron guy is still crazy, why is his GF going crazy too?
MPC gets a lighter sentence because he loves his daughter. And HuPo guy humiliated QH in public, went after him in public... then apologized in private (nobody around AT ALL). OK then, I guess it's water under the bridge...
- don't catch a tiger by the tail / also don't let a tiger go back to its mountain. - two nerds will NEVER succeed in a bossfight. Actually the boss will sweep the floor with both of them at once. Without a pencil, LOL. - internet security? What internet security? Pei!! - plot, what plot? Particularly when you're in your last few eps and the ML never appears in one of them AT ALL (minus the security message LOL). What was that, LOL? - Zhou You on a mini-scooter coming to save the day. I should use that as a wallpaper but I wouldn't be able to do anything productive, I'd be LOLing every time I'd see it.
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Is computer nerdy guy InSung? Then yes, he's suspect.
RSH couldn't be the adopted child they're talking about, because he's the one "older" than 13. He's also in the picture RSJ just saw at the end of the episode, and recognized as 11 in the wooden carvings group.
That leaves one adopted child (RSJ) that remembers what 13 would remember, who almost remembers who JYJ is, and who has lost his memory over some accident sometime when he was a kid.
So the only explanation that makes sense is that RSJ is 13 and RSH is 11, and IF RSH isn't behind this, then whoever started it wanted to pin the blame on 13/RSJ (and maybe involve 11 / RSH too, when they learned who he is). IF RSH isn't the killer, then he's probably trying hard to keep RSJ safe in spite of himself (because he's pretty dumb IMHO). If he IS the killer... he might have some unresolved anger issues about it.
The mom kept praising RSH and talk RSJ down, if he was her blood son, she would've been more warm toward him (RSH is better loved in the end as he's an over-achiever so she has reason to be proud of him). As a child he heard them talk about how he was adopted, and couldn't be given back, and that he was YoonJae - he definitely is 13.
I am becoming fast convinced nerd killer is the sister's son. He'd have motivation to start the killings, then. I mean, even this drama must need some kind of logic for why these events happened :D
I think he will be the end killer. RSH though definitely is still suspicious, I don't think they'll let him off the hook. Maybe they're working together.
... I bet that's it.
I doubt they'd be sincere with RSJ even if he asked.
2. The figurines are in RSH's room. In the open. On the table, you know, just like any serial killer would do, neglecting to cover his tracks in the SAME house where a detective lives. (Granted, RSJ isn't much of a detective, but still, this case is one where even he can add 2 and 2 together...)
3. Both are adopted, they're 11 and 13 from the center. At this time, I think the sister is EunKi. EunKi's "mother" seems a bit fishy about how 13 died, I think she gave him to his (and RSH's) adoptive mother, and forged the papers. As to WHY RSH would have come later... what if 13 was adopted earlier, after he already lost his memory, and thus lived a better life for a while and NOT helped the other Number Kids while living it, before RSH was adopted too? Then the revenge chain (against the kids of the perpetrators of abuse at the center) would make some sense.
RSJ remembers RSH's face from when he - too - was adopted. He's in process of finding where JEK is and at the youth center, concerned about her safety. The next second, he teleported home and is finding the wooden figurines. I expect someone to get a Nobel Prize for this.
Is Det. Kang dead or not? He looked done in the bathroom scene, but the press conference had him grievously hurt and then they wouldn't let RSJ see him before whisking him / his body away. Will he make a comeback?
They cleared RSJ of the charges so fast? There's not a lot of evidence saying Mr. Baek killed the family, and Det. Kang's declaration should still stand. Or if not, they should suspend Det. Kang and not leave him merrily doing his duties.
But then this show doesn't really care much about police procedures and the chain of evidence, LOL.
Sooo. Who else thinks the second killer / accomplice is the young nerdy guy? If he's acting WITH RSH, then there might be more of the Number Kids involved. If he's acting separately, then RSH will prove to be trying to SAVE everybody, LOL. At this point, given it's halfway, I'm inclining to think the young guy will be the official endgame killer, and RSH will come out a hero. Bah.
Overall... AT LEAST RSJ didn't do his bull in the china shop routine this time, and took a bit of time to do things before slamming his head through walls and locked doors (first few scenes of ep 9 not included, LOL).
I think JEK is the lost Jung sister, anyone else has this feeling?
Edit: also, it looks like the show is somehow implying either RSJ - probably him - OR the young nerdy killer guy might be the lost son of the lady with the ramen place.
Edit: also, why didn't ANYONE go alert/save the OTHER jurors LOL? I mean, show, seriously...
So, to would-be prospective watchers: There ARE better subs now, it's still not BL, it's WHOLESOME and cute and just the right thing for a nice evening when you want to regain faith in humanity. Give it a chance!
So, to be more clear - she got XHY out and he remembered because he was on board when the bomb went on, and before the start time of the loop. Lu Di wasn't, so despite being taken off that time, he couldn't loop back to the beginning with them and had to go through again and again with no memory of it.
RE what happened after, no, they didn't just go back to their regular lives LOL. I mean, obviously that was a terror threat, but the bomb didn't get off, so most of them never experienced more than confusion and fear for the bit they were aware of, except for LSQ and XHY who got to remember it all. After a while, though, they'd also start wondering if they didn't imagine it all, because our minds are resilient, inquisitive and usually find a way to cope with the extraordinary. But LSQ and XHY are now in a relationship, and the experience is also affecting the game (originally too bloody, remember?), Lu Di got the courage to come out to his parents about the cats, LOL, the culprits got some closure (at least the truth came out and the molester was also arrested), basically everybody in the bus got their lives changed.
So nope, not business as usual.
I still haven't read the novel, too many danmei in the way LOL, but the time'll come :D
Sacrifice is necessary, even if you will end up alone - for the greater good, or greater idea, people are unimportant, as long as it succeeds.
The Qin Emperor understands that Nameless (actually Broken Sword, but he had already sacrificed at that time and has managed to make Nameless understand) is his soulmate in his great endeavour, and that he has to die, so that everything under heaven would know law and order.
That ending is beyond words.
I loved everything about it - first, the story (loosely based on the later life of the first Qin Emperor, he of the first unified China, ruler of everything UNDER HEAVEN (Tianxia) and buried in the mausoleum guarded by the famous Terracotta Army, after he managed to kill himself with mercury potions in a vain try to become immortal, and having already survived numerous assassination attempts).
Second, the cinematography. The colour scheme, the flow of the scenes, the tragedy painted out in beautiful scenery - it's amazing.
Third, the music. I've tried adding Tan Dun's OST to the page of the drama and found no info for Tan Dun; I've tried adding a page for Tan Dun (among many classical works and compositions, he also wrote the soundtracks for a few really well receiced movies, like this one, or like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon). I might've made some mistakes, so it was rejected.
Give it a listen, if you're in the mood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL3daHF26V4&list=PLF3831010615C80A5
Fourth, the acting - a star-studded cast, an amazing portrayal of hope, understanding, redemption, and self-sacrifice. All of them shine.
And fifth, but not the least - the message.
For that reason, I guess, the scriptwriters also twitched some of the Wen Clan people's fate, having them hanged so that WWX could come see their bodies and lose it, instead of following the much bloodier plot of the novel.
Let's not talk about the gas tank Chen Mo was supposed to "kill himself" with LOL. A hanging or drowning would have solved that way faster. But drama reasons...
EVERYBODY forgot about poor ZY while they were going to the hospital. Even the cleaning lady got to ride the ambulance... but nobody mentioned ZY. LOL. WTH, did all their schedules got mixed up out of the blue?!
And the open ending... I mean, if TJC makes another season of it, why not? The kid is also cute. But I'd rather have another Under the Skin season, if we're open for business.
Overall, at least it made me giggle from time to time. I'd have wanted to see ZY as a lady... one... more... time... :D
PS the over-reaching plot points never got solved. The guy who swindled the mom is who, exactly? The "General's" mob team, or somebody else? The Grey Heron guy is still crazy, why is his GF going crazy too?
MPC gets a lighter sentence because he loves his daughter. And HuPo guy humiliated QH in public, went after him in public... then apologized in private (nobody around AT ALL). OK then, I guess it's water under the bridge...
Oh well...
- don't catch a tiger by the tail / also don't let a tiger go back to its mountain.
- two nerds will NEVER succeed in a bossfight. Actually the boss will sweep the floor with both of them at once. Without a pencil, LOL.
- internet security? What internet security? Pei!!
- plot, what plot? Particularly when you're in your last few eps and the ML never appears in one of them AT ALL (minus the security message LOL). What was that, LOL?
- Zhou You on a mini-scooter coming to save the day. I should use that as a wallpaper but I wouldn't be able to do anything productive, I'd be LOLing every time I'd see it.