Trouble-chan

So basically how to fall in love.....with booze. Blow off love, life and happiness.....just live for drinking. THAT was the message of this drama. I can only think it was paid for by an alcohol manufacturer. SUCH a WASTE - BRILLIANT cast, WONDERFULLY acted and a DIRGE of a plot....DON'T.WASTE.YOUR.TIME.

OH I really hope it is - he was truly wonderful in Goblin, but he acted his socks off in Train to Busan. Has he done his military service yet? I know they have stock 2 years to do. I hope so. He's been off our screens too long already. :)

Hi Tian Qi, thanks for replying. I don't judge all the people of China, any more than I do the people of Russia or South Korea, on the anti LGBT or general intolerance of individuality and non conformity carried out by their governments.

In cases such as yours, where there is no real democracy any longer, the people cannot be held responsible can they? How on earth are you meant to illicit change, when a peaceful, democratic way is no longer available?

I think we here in the UK are teetering on the brink of becoming a 21st Century version of anti semitic 1930s Germany if we vote in Jeremy Corbyn and his thuggish momentum followers which is why me and mine, though lifelong labour voters and workers rights supporters (we were even Chartists back in the day) will NOT vote for labour whilst he is in charge. I refuse to look back and I realise I voted a tyrannical genocidal dictator into power. BUT here in the UK WE do have that power of a democratic vote and a chance to avoid, peacefully and impartially, that horrible outcome happening.

I think China, and it's people, as a whole is a wonderful place. I watched a documentary about a group of elderly British celebrities going there to see how the elderly lived - and it was refreshing to see how much freedom there was generally. Sadly some of the celebrities weren't very polite, one in fact was shockingly rude and nasty. I believe if I visit a country I should know at least conversational levels of their language, respect their customs and abide by their rules and laws. None of the people who went there did; it made me ashamed to see them behave with such disregard for other people's language and customs.

So I do understand your point - but, sadly for me, and as someone with a lesbian and a gay cousin, I do not like the government's attitude to the LGBT community. ALL the BLs I've seen have ended badly or been cancelled - it's got to the point where I'm expecting one of the lovers to die of a paper cut whilst the parents commit sepuku out of horrified shame, assuming the shame itself doesn't kill them on the spot, such is the dire way the storylines go. Moreover, and perhaps you'd be kind enough to verify this for me, there's been talk on the internet that two main characters from the Addicted (aka Heroin) series are STILL banned from talking to each other and being seen together in public.

I would indeed rather the government and the censors DID completely ban LGBT entertainment (as I thought they had judging by the new draconian 'modesty' laws) so the makers and actors would go to Taiwan and Thailand, etc than just continue with the soul destroying sad endings and cancellations subsequently being churned out.

Living in the shadows; having to hide who you are - just to survive day to day - is not really the answer. To me the LGBT community is no different to my heterosexual one - except I love the opposite gender in my husband, and they love the same gender as themselves. But we all still love and are loved in return. We all struggle to find that love in the first place.

Thank you again for taking the time to reply, it's nice to talk to someone who actually lives in one of the countries we hear about - it's rare to get a first hand account of what's going on rather than just our own medias versions of it.

I hope we can talk again. :)

Thank you so MUCH - I hate when we don't have any plot to go on. it's hard to know if it'll be something I like or not. Thanks again! :D

I liked this movie. I watched it raw on youtube, but it was still really good and the story was easy to follow even without subs.

My late mum often told me she should've made Trouble my real middle name!! XD My Irish grandmother went from laughing at me when I was 4 & calling me her 'rapskallion' (little mischief maker) to shaking her finger at me and scowling calling me 'the hellion' (leader of trouble) by the time I was 8. I always felt both names were hard earned and proudly kept - I was the only girl amongst a family of cousins (over 20 in total) - ALL boys and I could beat everyone of them in a fight! ROFL!!

I can't watch it if has the same sad ending as the book and the original movie - basically everyone ended up miserable and/or dead. I can't go through that again....but if a different ending then I'll watch, but I'm going to wait until it's finished and then get the dirt on whether it's hankies or popcorn.

I will be watching for one reason only, even if I end up hating it, Lee Sun Gyun. I saw him Coffee Prince and then proceeded to hunt down as much of his work as I could. I even sat through the entire dire series of 'My Wife is Having an Affair This Week' for his acting, his voice and those puppy eyes. So I don't need to be told this drama is good - hell, he could sit in a bare room and read a telephone book and I'd watch it! He's probably one of the best, and most underused, actors I've seen in a long time.

I really hope this isn't going to have the same, or similar, ending as the original movie, that was too sad. Does anyone know if it's going to follow the original movie ending?

Mostly E's - The lovable Second Male Lead...but, whilst I'm a 52 year woman, it DOES explain my almost constant SLS!!

However, this is how it broke down for me - 6 Es, 3Js and then 1 each of F, D, G & K. So yeah, mostly the lovable SML, but also a bit of a mix of the others....so I could also double as the Loyal Sidekick....and you know what? I'm good with that! LOL! :D

Can someone spoil this - with the usual 'hide spoiler' provisos of course - but I'd like to know what the ending is for this before watching it as people really are like marmite with it. :)

AHA! Thank you! That was a good article too. :)

The only positive I can think of is at least we won't have all the ridiculous sad endings the censors forced on us for the BL and Gl webdramas, etc........but that's all. Hopefully the LGBT movie and drama making community will just move to more open countries and not allow themselves to be shut down.

Yeah, thanks I will - but Suda Masaki will be hard to beat as Koibuchi. :)

Thank you! That is brilliant. I couldn't work out how he could be dead but clearly alive. I didn't click they were twins. Gosh that must've been so hard for him to lose his identical twin in that way. I will definitely watch it again with subs. It was such a good movie and I tried my best to follow it with my VERY basic Japanese, but failed - so your healp is genuinely appreciated. :)

For me my favourite 'villains' are :

1. Park Hae Jin as Lee Jung Moon in Bad Guys
2. Park Bo Gum as Jung Seon Ho in Hello Monster
3. Takizawa Hideaki as the Mysterious Man in 'Innocent Curse'
4. Matsuda Shota as Akiyama Shinichi in Liar Game

All the above had moments of compassion; some had good reasons for awful acts and others mellowed and became less harsh and cold as dramas progressed. But NONE were solely heroic or solely evil - that makes them so much more interesting the black and white usual villains and heroes.

Here you go - it's really good; it's subbed now; just click on the subs box. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqidak4tK0A

I gave it an 8 because I didn't like Jung Yoo Mi's character who was the lead female. Han Yeo Reum was just someone I couldn't warm to - in fact most of them were not the warmest, but she was most definitely the worst. I really didn't want her to end up with either Eric (who played her ex Kang Tae Ha) or Sung Joon (who played her boyfriend Nam Ha Jin) - I think they BOTH deserved better than her. I found from episode 9 onwards was better, expecially the last episode - not for the lead female who I still didn't like, but the two male leads made me warm to them and a lot of the other characters too.

I like either a hero with villain traits or a villain with hero traits. I don't like characters that stick resolutely to their 'hero' or 'villain' tropes.

NO one is perfect, it's impossible. A serial killer will have moments of compassion and a saint moments of depravity. This is why I always find the story of the Two Wolves a bit silly. NO one is perfect and so the dark wolf will always be fed and, conversely, even a light wolf will be dangerous if starving. So for me I feel I befriended both my wolves and they fight together to protect me, rather than fight each other to control me. That's how I like the characters in my dramas - like they've made friends with both their wolves and are neither complete heroes or complete demons.

Rainruma - THANK YOU so VERY much! I managed to track them all down on Google music and am now the proud owner of all the songs!

I Won't Let you Go is actually called "Do Not Tell Me That" and that's my most favourite of the three. Thanks again! :)