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I can only imagine this has a 7 because anyone who would rate it any lower has probably long since given up on this. I could tolerate the first episode, but with the second I can see there is probably about 10 minutes of actual story that is dragged out endlessly. Diew doesn't need someone to eat with, he needs a psychologist.

That's really annoying. I've seen it before where all the suspense or tension of an episode is ruined because you see that in Part 4/4 everything has turned out for the best. Oh no, will so and so survive that horrible accident we saw previewed in the last episode? Don't worry, thumbnail 4 has them alive and well. Sigh.

I'm really enjoying this series. It has a nice story and the right balance of humour and sweetness. It's good to see the development of Phuwin and Neo as actors and I think they are playing their roles well. I'm grateful that it remains focused on Pi/Mork and Duean/Meen without too many secondary characters to drag out the episode with my only disappointment coming when it ends and I have to wait another week.

My hopes for this series have been given CPR. The fourth episode was the best so far, which isn't saying much in itself, but is much closer to what I was expecting from this series. I actually felt *something* from this episode. I was looking forward to this story in particular to see the role reversal of Max and Nat from Why R U? and I think they played their new characters quite well in the circumstances. The story itself has potential, but the execution was a bit so-so. Hopefully we get something closer to this level from the next episode than the first story.

When I saw the original previews for this series I was expecting something really different. I thought the stories would have more depth and there would be a more dramatic and emotional edge to them. Instead they are just the stock standard BL. A paper-thin storyline filled with silly music and sound effects.

I thought the concept of 7 days would have each story/character/couple clearly demonstrate something different from one another, but the first two so far have been the enemies to lovers trope and little more. It's such a shame we didn't get much of Max and Nat in Why R U? and now what we've been given with *this* doesn't go anywhere near making up for that.

My only hope now is that the second part of this couple is really good, or that one of the other stories is a gem that makes up for this entire impeding abomination.

I've seen that circular courtyard Pi and Mork were sitting near in so many series. Must be one of the most used settings in all of Thailand. Haha.

I love Meen too. He's so annoying, but so sweet and innocent too. Duen is a self-serving prick, but I think it'll make it better when he realises he has feelings for Meen and in for a life of Duen! Duen! Duen!

It is a bit of a bad message to people that they need to change to be 'attractive', but if Pi's secret friend is who I think we're lead to believe it is, they can always say that he found him attractive all along.

I agree about the episode length. It's always the shows that I love that are over before I know it and then I have to wait another week for the next one.

I was really looking forward to this series and I haven't been disappointed. It's a sweet story with occasional random humour which I like. It may seem a little obvious in parts, but I'm hoping they'll throw in a few plot twists or unexpected moments. I think Meen is adorable and interested to where things go with him and Neo.

I'm more than a little surprised to see the low rating, seeing it is only a small amount higher than Y-Destiny, which is total trash so far. Anyway, people like different things and for different reasons.

The Max/Nat story was one I was looking forward to. The preview looked amazing, but we've been served up fluff. I really feel sorry for the actors because this is low effort of the lowest effort. The storyline is good and could be a series of its own, with the occasional glimmer of something, but then it just slides into nothingness. The actors are really good in their roles, however they just aren't given much to work with. The preview for the next episode does give me a little hope, although I hate to say I'm getting the feeling the first story wasn't an outlier, but setting our expectations for the rest of the series to zero.

Oh, and who is styling Nat? He has worn some of the ugliest clothes I've ever seen. Plus that shirt he gave Max was hideous.

Again, I was probably overthinking it. The flashback showed a jump of about 10 years or so and if Sib had been so significant to Gene, you would think there would be some gradual realisation of who he was sooner. There's a massive difference between someone you see in the street once a few days ago, to someone you grew up next to and saw regularly. I'm probably basing a lot of this on personal experience where I have met people who have been connected to other people I know or just through conversation you find you have common acquaintances or experiences. It's just with some shows you can overlook some things, but this was one where it just bugged me. But yes, different countries, different cultures, different customs.

It's easy to miss the nuance and subtlety of shows with subtitles and different cultural customs.

Fair enough. Probably overthinking it, but just an observation.

I am enjoying this series because it goes beyond the standard high school/university tropes. However it isn't without fault. I'm glad this series doesn't have a thousand secondary characters/couples, but having said that the small number of secondary characters in this seem to be getting too little airtime. Hin has been Missing (H)In Action for several episodes. Tum and Tiffy are still circling one another, but don't feel like they are getting anywhere. And I almost don't know what the point of Saymork is in this because I constantly forget him and only reminded he even exists when watching the opening titles.

The other thing I know I should overlook, but really pushes my suspension of disbelief is that Gene took so long to realise who Nubsib was. I don't know how common the name is in Thailand, but even if it wasn't *the* Nubsib, wouldn't you think I grew up next to someone with that name, isn't that funny?! I don't know what time period we skip from their childhood to now (10-15 years?) but that part of the storyline is the one that is the least convincing.

With 5 episodes to go I hope they don't rush to tie everything up and do it in an unsatisfactory or unsatisfying way. Or maybe they are just setting us up for season 2. :)

I think I'm going to enjoy this series. I loved the previews and the first episode was really good. It'll be interesting to see where it goes, but seems like a sweet story. Phuwin is perfect for this role and he plays it really well.

I'd agree with this. Tonhon Chonlatee at least had a clear storyline.

I'm not giving up on this just yet, but I agree with you. If this had been out a few years ago I may have thought it was okay, but for 2021, this is low quality at its worst. I'm hoping the other stories might get better, but if it is the same exact team (director, etc.) behind each episode, it's going to be a struggle.

Okay, so the first story is either rubbish because the whole series is going to be rubbish, or they are getting the worst one out of the way so everything else seems like a masterpiece in comparison.

I get the whole thing with having to tell a whole story in 2 episodes, but I've seen it here or elsewhere a comment where the average movie is around 1.5-2 hours and they generally manage to convincingly complete a story arc. Here we had two characters that hated one another because... I dunno, then they get together because... I dunno. One of them is pretending to be sick because... I dunno, and then the other one actually gets sick and... I dunno. I felt zero chemistry and zero energy.

There have been so many good series, like ITSAY and ATOTS, that this type of middling series ends up looking especially bad. If they've set themselves the task of telling a story in two episodes, make them the two best episodes you can imagine, rather than drawn out scenes that contribute nothing and scenes that feel like you feel like you've fallen asleep and woken up having missed half of it.

A week is a long time in Y-Destiny.

Like I said in my last post, I watched this with subtitles, so I may have missed something, but I don't specifically recall Yoo having said that comment about beating up someone who is gay. Not excusing what he said, but I would want to go back and see it in context. I don't deny that people may find things offensive even if there was no intention to be offensive, but there is also a world of difference between someone saying a lyric to a song and someone using that same word pejoratively. I follow the line that offence is taken, not given.

I don't recall Yoo's comment about Han Yang's sexuality, so I'm not going to make comment on it, but I don't think the issues between Han Yang and Yoo were so clear cut. Most of the other cellmate's tolerated Han Yang's bad behaviour (stealing, saying insulting things, invading personal space), but maybe Yoo didn't want to put up with it and that's okay. I think there's a lot more nuance to all the characters and to portray any of their interactions as so superficial is a disservice to the makers of this show. I think this is the first Korean series I ever watched and I loved it. It was an amazing balance of humour and emotion and if there was a homophobic character I would like to think they would have used it as an educating moment for both the character and the viewer. I don't think they would have let him get away with it, without there being some recourse. Also, many of the characters you would have expected to be homophobic in this series weren't, and I still believe Han Yang's sexuality wasn't that much of a big deal. Maybe the other prisoners expected him to have a female partner, and were surprised that he had a male partner, but I didn't perceive a change in their attitudes. There were plenty of reasons to dislike Han Yang, but I don't think his sexuality would have been high on the list.

No problem. To begin with, I had no idea there was even a suggestion that Yoo was homophobic until I came on here. Watching a show with subtitles (as I don't speak Korean) sometimes makes it difficult to pick up everything and the nuance of the words. Having said that I find it very difficult to believe they would make Yoo explicitly homphobic. His character is meant to be sympathetic and you want him to win his chance for a retrial. If they made him someone you were supposed to dislike or have a negative opinion of, then why would you care either way if he had a retrial or not or was wrongfully convicted in the first place. This is a show that I may rewatch at some stage, so maybe watching it again may change my opinion, but based on one viewing my opinion still stands.

In relation to the portrayal of characters, I'm old enough to remember shows that had both stereotypically gay characters, as well as characters whose purpose was to fulfil some sort of diversity quota, but have no other substance. They were simply the *gay* character and the producers could pat themselves on the back for it. I don't think any of the characters in Prison Playbook were so superficial. I think Han Yang had some real depth and wasn't the *gay* character, but a character that happened to be gay. He had family issues, he had a drug addiction, he had a caring partner, he was in prison, and on top of that he just happened to be gay. If anything, I think the show may have sanitised the experience of someone who is gay in prison. I think he would have faced a far more difficult time and if Yoo was the only resistance he faced regarding his sexuality, then he would have been very lucky. To be honest, I thought that Min Chul and Jean Valjean (?) were a couple, but they had a father/son relationship or maybe it was more complex than that.

As for general portrayal, I think that any marginalised group should expect that as they get more representation that these characters may indeed include negative portrayals. Yes, in the past the villains may have been gay characters, but I would rather see a villain who happens to be gay, rather than a gay villain. There's a big difference.

I don't deny that some may find it upsetting or homophobic, but my contention is that it was interpreted as such, but maybe not intended as such. Just because a character is gay and someone says something negative to them or has a negative reaction (excluding overt homophobic remarks or actions), doesn't automatically make that character homophobic. Han Yang was annoying and if Yoo reacted to him being annoying wasn't explicitly because he was homophobic, it might be for the simple fact that he's annoying. Are you saying that because some people who may be triggered by seeing a gay man threatened under any circumstances and for any actions is grounds for calling a character homophobic? So Han Yang gets a free pass to do anything he likes because he's gay wether or not what he does is related to his sexuality at all? I think the problem is that a lot of people want representation from marginalised groups, but don't want the characters to be portrayed in a negative light. And I don't mean negative for their marginalised characteristics, but negative in any way.