IMO, it doesn't absolve Rung of doing this to her own sister. The men behind it are monsters, but so is Rung.
To me, it wouldn't matter if Rung's character was male or female, it is the abuse of the sibling bond and position of trust that makes it especially awful. I hear what your saying but I don't believe that the writers are trying to say that all women are evil. And I agree that the abuse of men in authority over the vulnerable of any gender is a societal evil that should be confronted and punished.
Love by Chance's rape still pisses me off... and if they don't deal with it in Season 2, I'm gonna be really really…
Please come if you have the chance. Canada is consistently rated as one of the most LGBT friendly countries in the world and our dedication to diversity and multiculturalism (we were the first country in the world to adopt multiculturalism as a policy and have a federal department of government for its promotion) go beyond mere lip service.
Yes, racism, bigotry and ignorance do exist but those tend to be minority views. And yes, it can be as bloody cold in winter as you might have heard: LOL! (Different regions of the country vary, though.)
From what you described, the situation in India reminds me of how things were in Canada for LGBT people back in the late 80s. I was 20 at the time and went to my city's first Pride rally. It consisted of about 20 of us and many wore masks to prevent them from being identified out of fear for losing their jobs, family, etc. I didn't wear a mask and my grand-nieces actually saw a newsclip of me, a couple of years ago from a piece of the anniversary of that day, holding a sign saying "Not Special, Just Equal" and talking to reporters.
Now, I am 53 and truly feel that I do live in a society that values and respects me and other LGBT people as equal to the majority. Perhaps, India will see improvements, as well. I hope so for the entire world.
Thank you for your kind wishes about finding a partner. I was partnered for 10 years and can say that, if the future doesn't hold such for me again, that I at least got to experience that joy in my life. Some people, sadly, never get that gift regardless of orientation.
In all honesty - I like this episode. It kept me on the edge of my seat that I was actually surprised when it…
To me it would not matter whether Rung was male or female. It is the abuse of the sibling bond and position of trust that makes Rung's crime so especially despicable. The men involved are monsters, too. They all need to rot in prison with nothing but their crimes to keep them company until the end of their days.
Poor Jane: victimised at every turn by those she loved and trusted and how she acknowledged that she hadn't done enough to help Natty. So sad.
The most heinous one, to me, is Rung. Having experienced the horror herself, how could she hand over her supposedly beloved sister like a lamb to slaughter? No sense of supposed helplessness, amount of tears or regret can wash away her infamy. Hateful, horrid, monstrous... no words can truly describe it.
I simply cannot say enough how impressed I am that this show has highlighted the injustices perpetrated by the powerful against the vulnerable. This weeks episode has shown that the genre can be a vehicle for important discussions and calls to action. Many, many, thanks to those involved. You have thrown down the gauntlet and challenged other shows to transcend the mediocrity of the genre.
Not that there isn't space and room for less serious and more romantic fluffy series, but I can only say that I hope that the future holds more shows like this one.
I can understand why many found the special disappointing and I think being upset is justifiable. That said, I'm an old man (53) and some of the montages in the episode reminded me of things they've done in the finales of many great shows. (The M*A*S*H finale comes to mind.)
I agree that the montages could have been truncated and that we could have done with more original content, but in the end I got the fuzzies and a sense of completion to the series.
I know there's a lot of ire toward Mame but I am ultimately grateful to have been able to see these stories and I highly commend all those who clearly put their best efforts into making these stories come to life. Thank you.
Love by Chance's rape still pisses me off... and if they don't deal with it in Season 2, I'm gonna be really really…
I'm from Canada and there's no shortage of guys who go from hookup to hookup, and if they are content in their lives: more power to them.. I was just pointing out that not every gay man lives and loves that way. I agree that's it's often not like the BLs: relationships require committed effort to nurture them and for them to thrive. I also agree that most of us have experienced heartache. I think that applies to all people of all orientations.
It might be that Canada's very accepting culture influences things but many men still strive for love and partnership. Whether we are gay, bi, trans, pan, non-binary, 2 spirited, or str8 I think that the majority of people want (deep down) to love and be loved.
BTW, I love your first name. You take care, as well. =)
This movie took me back to some of the darkest days of my youth and made me cry some of the most honest tears I've shed in an age. It is both brutal and poignant. It will haunt you but you will be a better person for seeing it.
If this is a realistic portrait of high school in S. Korea, all I can say is that it is no surprise that the country has the suicide rates it has...
Phupha is a man of limited words, but his looks can speaks volumes. The look on his face when he first met Tian…
I can only hope that it's somehow better for younger people, now. One of the reasons that I watch BL is because I hope that they can send out a message of support and affirmation that I wish I could have had, back then. I was 20 when I showed up to my city's first Pride rally. There were only about 20 people there and most of them were masked for fear of losing their families, jobs, etc. I've refused to lie about or hide who I am and how I love, not just for myself but for all those who had to deny and/or hide and suffer so terribly in solitude.
I also watch them because they can take me back to those days of young love. I'm single, now, and I confess that they can help when I feel lonely.
Phupha is a man of limited words, but his looks can speaks volumes. The look on his face when he first met Tian…
When I said possibly not articulated or acted on, I didn't mean to imply that he lacked self-awareness. As you said, though, living in a small and highly traditional community may lead him to bury his feelings.
As for the reactions we can have when we meet people we're drawn to, as a gay man at 53, I can identify with what you said. I've been there a number of times and my reactions have differed based on the circumstances. Growing up when I did, most LGBT had to become very skilled at hiding our feelings right down to masking our facial gestures in Middle/Secondary school to avoid censure, harassment, fights, and the like.
What bothers me most is that they didn't seem to ever learn the lessons they could have. I know that there's a fairly young contingent here on MDL, so please take a word of advice from a 53 year old; COMMUNICATE.
It genuinely hurt to watch this because so much of what happened could have been averted with rudimentary communication between almost all parties concerned at the instances when issues began to arise. In one way or another they were each the architects of their own suffering.
I gave it an 8 for PeteKao and the bits of Sun and Mork. I had no interest in the 3 sister's storylines after giving them a go. (Whereas I loved Sandee's storyline in KIss.)
Yes, racism, bigotry and ignorance do exist but those tend to be minority views. And yes, it can be as bloody cold in winter as you might have heard: LOL! (Different regions of the country vary, though.)
From what you described, the situation in India reminds me of how things were in Canada for LGBT people back in the late 80s. I was 20 at the time and went to my city's first Pride rally. It consisted of about 20 of us and many wore masks to prevent them from being identified out of fear for losing their jobs, family, etc. I didn't wear a mask and my grand-nieces actually saw a newsclip of me, a couple of years ago from a piece of the anniversary of that day, holding a sign saying "Not Special, Just Equal" and talking to reporters.
Now, I am 53 and truly feel that I do live in a society that values and respects me and other LGBT people as equal to the majority. Perhaps, India will see improvements, as well. I hope so for the entire world.
Thank you for your kind wishes about finding a partner. I was partnered for 10 years and can say that, if the future doesn't hold such for me again, that I at least got to experience that joy in my life. Some people, sadly, never get that gift regardless of orientation.
Best wishes to you and yours. Namaste.
The most heinous one, to me, is Rung. Having experienced the horror herself, how could she hand over her supposedly beloved sister like a lamb to slaughter? No sense of supposed helplessness, amount of tears or regret can wash away her infamy. Hateful, horrid, monstrous... no words can truly describe it.
Not that there isn't space and room for less serious and more romantic fluffy series, but I can only say that I hope that the future holds more shows like this one.
I agree that the montages could have been truncated and that we could have done with more original content, but in the end I got the fuzzies and a sense of completion to the series.
I know there's a lot of ire toward Mame but I am ultimately grateful to have been able to see these stories and I highly commend all those who clearly put their best efforts into making these stories come to life. Thank you.
It might be that Canada's very accepting culture influences things but many men still strive for love and partnership. Whether we are gay, bi, trans, pan, non-binary, 2 spirited, or str8 I think that the majority of people want (deep down) to love and be loved.
BTW, I love your first name. You take care, as well. =)
If this is a realistic portrait of high school in S. Korea, all I can say is that it is no surprise that the country has the suicide rates it has...
I also watch them because they can take me back to those days of young love. I'm single, now, and I confess that they can help when I feel lonely.
As for the reactions we can have when we meet people we're drawn to, as a gay man at 53, I can identify with what you said. I've been there a number of times and my reactions have differed based on the circumstances. Growing up when I did, most LGBT had to become very skilled at hiding our feelings right down to masking our facial gestures in Middle/Secondary school to avoid censure, harassment, fights, and the like.