Who is the ML opposite FL ?Edit: LOL got three answers but none of them match.
Short answer: This is a story where the 1st ML is not the love interest of the FL. The 2nd ML (Jing) is the official love interest. The 3rd ML (XL) is the secret/unspoken love interest.
Just wanted to add as a spoiler that based on the leaked script for Season 2, the plot had some major changes,…
It is interesting that it's Ah Nian who becomes the intermediary.
That's a lot of changes (between those with CX which are very important for the ending and the title of the story and this arc concerning the death of TSJ which is going to be treated differently), I'm curious to see the rendering in the season 2, to understand the choice of direction taken.
Do you remember if the scene where XL try to force XY to tell him who she wants to spend the rest of her life with is in the script or not?
Ep.33Xiaoyaoooooo...I knew it would be written that way! She just survived thanks to the sacrifice of XL and she…
I understand your frustration. However, I think we should not take everything XY says as her true thoughts. She knows XL loves her and he risked a lot for her. XY also knows he spent 37 years watching over her, giving her the blood of his heart, fainting from exhaustion because of his care and so on. The problem is that XL refuses to reveal his feelings out loud as well as the sincerity of his care. Instead, she only has his silence, his absence and him using the pretext of transaction in their exchanges. As a result, XY is hurt AND doubts a little about the depth of XL's feelings. She also knows they can't be together. She therefore buries her feelings and XL's deep inside and focuses on the man who is most likely to never abandon her or hurt her (XL being more unpredictable and dominant, XY is more reassured facing TSJ over whom she has the ascendancy). XY is unaware XL gave one of his lives for her. But she knows TSJ has given up on living for her. XY knows XL loves her but he never told her and never acted to be with her, on the contrary he keeps saying goodbye to her (and she spends her time waiting for him). While TSJ keeps telling her he loves her, he's attentive to her, he show that they have a chance to be together, a possible future and so on. So yes, at that moment, having once again been heartbroken by XL's absence when she woke up and his refusal to see her, she focuses on the man of her life who shows, says and proves his love unceasingly.
I also don't like the relationship she has with TSJ because she seems like a big sister more than equal partners. But, I understand that given the situation, TSJ is the only choice for her. She has 3 suitors (to her knowledge): - FFL who is only a buddy but who's too much like her cousin for her to love him (since she dislike ambitious man who'll never put their woman first); - XL who is her best friend whom she loves but he's an angry, impulsive demon, the enemy of her family (he keeps trying to kill her cousin) who fights for a lost cause and refuses not only to reveal his feelings for her but also to reassure her about a possible future between them; - TSJ who's the dedicate young servant she spent over 6 years with. They are a family and she feels safe with him. She loves that he desperately needs her, that he keeps telling her and showing his love because it reassures her that he will always be there for her.
Just wanted to add as a spoiler that based on the leaked script for Season 2, the plot had some major changes,…
It's interesting to know what they originally planned and what was changed. Thank you for sharing! Can I ask you how XL's death happens in the leak script as well as XY's reaction to his death? I need to be mentally prepared.
I don't think that's the only time he told her that, was it?
I think he knows at least that she was by his side on her last day in coma. He saw her swirled then felt her hand on his and finally saw her spirit in front of him before she came back into her body. So he knows at least she was there the last time (and that's why when she wakes up she shouts his name, because she knows she was by his side and isn't surprised at the place where she wakes up).
But yeah, he doesn't know she has been by his side for 37 years and she has heard everything he said to her. Even if I think part of him is aware of it or suspects it.
This is the tragedy of their story anyway: they love each other and know the other loves them but refuses to say it out loud (so they will doubt the depth of the other's feelings until the end ), they protect each other but XL will always hide his care behind a transaction (so XY will always doubt his real motives and the depth of his feelings for her), they will spend 37 years together but neither of them wants to reveal it to the other (so XL will believe these 37 years were one-sided while XY will keep it to herself, out of fear of what revealing it would mean) etc... They are very good at lying to themselves, lying to the other, denying their feelings and keeping their precious memories to themselves.
I'm sure this has been covered a lot here, but I always feel bad for XL every time that XY makes a "if only you…
Like it was said, it's XY way of saying "I love you" and "If you could stay FFB, we may have a chance". They never can't say their feelings out loud so they find way to let the other know how they feel. Of course, it's painful since they can't be and they both stuck in their own choices and loyalties. BUT it's important for them to articulate their thoughts. I think the only time FFB took bad this sentence was when she said "if I've saved you, it would have been great". Because this time, XY didn't just said she wish he was only FFB, she also tried to rewrite XL story while it can't be. And all her words get through XL's barriers so much that he almost lost control and touched her (which would have change their relation forever). Their relationship is cruel, tragic and painful. They both hurt each other deeply by their words, choices, actions or silence. But they're also each other biggest support, confident, friends and lover (in a silent way).
Gao Ji Cai aka Lao Sang in LYF revealed he has re-dubbed some lines for #LostYouForeverS2. "We’ve already dubbed once before but because a few words have to be changed, we had to amend it. Once dubbing is finished, it’ll be close to airing” https://twitter.com/_LostYouForever/status/1695182345823817862
do you mind give me a spoiler briefly? why CX losts XY and their bond is broken? did XY ever love CX ? or one…
CX's romantic feelings for XY will destroy their relationship. He will let his feelings eat away at him and will become possessive and obsessive. He'll plot with TSJ's brother to help get TSJ killed, something XY can't forgive. As for XY, she will never have romantic feelings for him. The only men she loves are TSJ & XL. CX was always her cousin, her brother, her family. He was the most important for her since, by their family bond, she thought he will now always be her home. But his love will destroy that truth and belief.
Short version :She end up with Jing and it's a happy ending, a bittersweet one and a sad ending depending on the…
Long version: XY is alive at the end, she ends up with Jing. So it's an happy ending for both of them. But CX losts XY and their bond is broken. So it's a sad ending for the sibling relationship. XL die and XY lost him forever, so it's a sad ending for their relationship. In the end, XY lost the bond with her brother and mourn her best friend who she was in love with but she's alive and with a man she loves. So it's an happy, bittersweet, sad ending ahah
thanks for the compilation. i love reading about XL and XY's relationship 🥺 in case u haven't yet, u should…
You're welcome. I was so happy to see the comment section so full with people wanting to talk about this drama! And I'm glad a lot of people love XL & XY relationship. I'll add this to their discussion, thanks for the advice!
My comment is going to be long, sorry in advance.I did a recap of the times the drama implies that XY loves XL.…
Episode 19, XY's father surprises her smiling in front of the mirror containing XL's memories. She tries to hide this from him, like a teenager caught in the act. The drama focuses on the king's astonishment that his daughter isn't pining for TSJ, the one she's supposed to love, but instead thinks of another man. XY explains she isn't a romantic and doesn't trust TSJ. If he keeps his promise, so much the better, if not, too bad. But after saying she's not a romantic, she glances embarrassed at her mirror. Which tells the audience XL is in her heart while TSJ is still just a suitor for her but hasn't won her full love & trust yet. Later, she confesses to XL she is afraid of dreaming of him = falling in love with him (fear which is only possible if she already has romantic feelings for him).
Episode 20, she throws herself into TSJ's arms and even the latter realizes she doesn't do it out of love (= she tries to forget XL by clinging to TSJ).
Episode 22, she shows physical attraction for FFB when she first met him then when he was teaching her archery.
Episode 23, when he asked her to go wandering the world with him, she agreed on the condition he abandoned his responsability. She was sincere in her answer even though she said it with an arrogant tone since she knew he couldn't. There was a hidden bitterness. Right before, she mentions XL as a possible husband to her grandfather, just like TSJ. Which indicates she considers the two men as potential future lovers. Later, she touches FFB's heart, understanding he is probably XL and lets him hold and caress her hand. Her gaze screams "I have feelings for you".
Episode 25, XY has the look of a lover who languishes of her man when she unmasks the guy who has entered her room. And she seems to have hope it's XL when she asks him "are you...?" before being annoyed when she thinks it's only FFB. Later, when she knows he is XL, she tenderly watches him sleep, thinking back to fond memories before hardening herself by remembering the pain he caused her. The lyrics of the song used at this time (which is the duet of XL & XY) literally explains her thoughts: she wishes she could be with him in a next life but in this one, she feels torn while being afraid of losing him.
Episode 27, she calls him her soulmate and wishes he was only living as FFB and not XL, the enemy of her family. She then watches him leave with so much sadness and regret.
Episode 32, when she wakes up but XL refuses to see her, her attitude, her tears and the song used literally confess her love for him, a love that she can never express and that he never lets her express.
Episode 33, when XY tells her cousin she is going to wait for TSJ, CX is surprised because he has never seen her waiting for anyone and deduces that TSJ is really special for her. At that moment, the camera focuses on XY who is making a weird sad face because there is someone she keeps waiting for: XL. She waits for him to confess to her, she waits for him to come back, she says goodbye to him every time they see each other because she doesn't know if he won't die in battle etc... Almost all their scenes since she's the princess of Haoling are goodbyes.
Episode 34 screams XY loves XL. Her reaction when he calls her name at TSJ's house is that of a hurt lover, not a friend. Then, when XL mentions how the young slave was able to survive for 40 years, talking about following his heart, being patient and not giving up a faint hope, XY turns to him apprehensively, tremolos in her voice and a look that indicates she imagines XL is telling her not to give up hope they will ever be together. Then the drama clearly shows that XY's desire to see the young slave won, her joy at his victory and her empathy afterwards are increased tenfold because she draws a parallel with XL and thinks of the latter. Which is shown when she tearfully tells him she wished she had saved him from the arena so he wouldn't owe anyone anything and could live a free life where he wouldn't be the enemy of her family and wouldn't have a losing battle as his destiny. When XL, moved, reaches out to caress her cheek, XY doesn't move and even has eyes filled with emotion. This scene alone proves they both love each other but cannot clearly express their love because of the political situation in which they are. They can only be best friends. Even TSJ is aware of this as XY lets go of his hand, lost in her thoughts/emotions towards XL.
There is also the fact she sent him poison every month, before discovering he was FFB and next to her, the fact she always walks around with poison for him etc... (which indicates he constantly occupies her thoughts).
It's the story of a woman who loves 3 men with 3 different loves and builds 3 different relationships with them. CX: the sibling love full of nostalgia from their childhood. TSJ: The innocent, stable, unwavering love (except his family intrusion) that she chose with her head before her heart ended up being totally moved by his devotion. XL: The unforeseen, dangerous, impossible, uncontrollable love that her heart longs for but her head refuses to express because that kind of love will never bring her the stability and security she seeks.
My comment is going to be long, sorry in advance. I did a recap of the times the drama implies that XY loves XL. I too often see people saying she only loves Jing, that XL has no chance or, on the contrary, not understanding (and blaming) XY for her attitudes because they didn't understand she loved both of them, of different way and hadn't started loving them at the same time or for the same reasons. I should also point out that listing this in no way diminishes her relationship with Jing. This is simply to clarify and explain to those who may not have grasped the subtleties that XY is also in love with XL.
Does TSJ know he's not the baby daddy when they found out FFYY was pregnant? or maybe after she gave birth? I…
TSJ thinks the child is his. But when his brother's wife points out the baby doesn't look like him, he begins to suspect something. In the drama, it is also showing, he freezes while observing the baby.
This is a story where the 1st ML is not the love interest of the FL.
The 2nd ML (Jing) is the official love interest.
The 3rd ML (XL) is the secret/unspoken love interest.
That's a lot of changes (between those with CX which are very important for the ending and the title of the story and this arc concerning the death of TSJ which is going to be treated differently), I'm curious to see the rendering in the season 2, to understand the choice of direction taken.
Do you remember if the scene where XL try to force XY to tell him who she wants to spend the rest of her life with is in the script or not?
She knows XL loves her and he risked a lot for her. XY also knows he spent 37 years watching over her, giving her the blood of his heart, fainting from exhaustion because of his care and so on.
The problem is that XL refuses to reveal his feelings out loud as well as the sincerity of his care. Instead, she only has his silence, his absence and him using the pretext of transaction in their exchanges. As a result, XY is hurt AND doubts a little about the depth of XL's feelings. She also knows they can't be together.
She therefore buries her feelings and XL's deep inside and focuses on the man who is most likely to never abandon her or hurt her (XL being more unpredictable and dominant, XY is more reassured facing TSJ over whom she has the ascendancy).
XY is unaware XL gave one of his lives for her. But she knows TSJ has given up on living for her.
XY knows XL loves her but he never told her and never acted to be with her, on the contrary he keeps saying goodbye to her (and she spends her time waiting for him). While TSJ keeps telling her he loves her, he's attentive to her, he show that they have a chance to be together, a possible future and so on.
So yes, at that moment, having once again been heartbroken by XL's absence when she woke up and his refusal to see her, she focuses on the man of her life who shows, says and proves his love unceasingly.
I also don't like the relationship she has with TSJ because she seems like a big sister more than equal partners. But, I understand that given the situation, TSJ is the only choice for her. She has 3 suitors (to her knowledge):
- FFL who is only a buddy but who's too much like her cousin for her to love him (since she dislike ambitious man who'll never put their woman first);
- XL who is her best friend whom she loves but he's an angry, impulsive demon, the enemy of her family (he keeps trying to kill her cousin) who fights for a lost cause and refuses not only to reveal his feelings for her but also to reassure her about a possible future between them;
- TSJ who's the dedicate young servant she spent over 6 years with. They are a family and she feels safe with him. She loves that he desperately needs her, that he keeps telling her and showing his love because it reassures her that he will always be there for her.
Can I ask you how XL's death happens in the leak script as well as XY's reaction to his death?
I need to be mentally prepared.
But yeah, he doesn't know she has been by his side for 37 years and she has heard everything he said to her.
Even if I think part of him is aware of it or suspects it.
This is the tragedy of their story anyway: they love each other and know the other loves them but refuses to say it out loud (so they will doubt the depth of the other's feelings until the end ), they protect each other but XL will always hide his care behind a transaction (so XY will always doubt his real motives and the depth of his feelings for her), they will spend 37 years together but neither of them wants to reveal it to the other (so XL will believe these 37 years were one-sided while XY will keep it to herself, out of fear of what revealing it would mean) etc...
They are very good at lying to themselves, lying to the other, denying their feelings and keeping their precious memories to themselves.
Of course, it's painful since they can't be and they both stuck in their own choices and loyalties. BUT it's important for them to articulate their thoughts.
I think the only time FFB took bad this sentence was when she said "if I've saved you, it would have been great". Because this time, XY didn't just said she wish he was only FFB, she also tried to rewrite XL story while it can't be. And all her words get through XL's barriers so much that he almost lost control and touched her (which would have change their relation forever).
Their relationship is cruel, tragic and painful. They both hurt each other deeply by their words, choices, actions or silence. But they're also each other biggest support, confident, friends and lover (in a silent way).
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"We’ve already dubbed once before but because a few words have to be changed, we had to amend it. Once dubbing is finished, it’ll be close to airing”
https://twitter.com/_LostYouForever/status/1695182345823817862
So maybe we'll have S2 for this fall!
As for XY, she will never have romantic feelings for him. The only men she loves are TSJ & XL. CX was always her cousin, her brother, her family. He was the most important for her since, by their family bond, she thought he will now always be her home. But his love will destroy that truth and belief.
XY is alive at the end, she ends up with Jing. So it's an happy ending for both of them.
But CX losts XY and their bond is broken. So it's a sad ending for the sibling relationship.
XL die and XY lost him forever, so it's a sad ending for their relationship.
In the end, XY lost the bond with her brother and mourn her best friend who she was in love with but she's alive and with a man she loves.
So it's an happy, bittersweet, sad ending ahah
She end up with Jing and it's a happy ending, a bittersweet one and a sad ending depending on the characters.
The long version will have more spoilers so don't read it if you want to have surprises.
I'll add this to their discussion, thanks for the advice!
Later, she confesses to XL she is afraid of dreaming of him = falling in love with him (fear which is only possible if she already has romantic feelings for him).
Episode 20, she throws herself into TSJ's arms and even the latter realizes she doesn't do it out of love (= she tries to forget XL by clinging to TSJ).
Episode 22, she shows physical attraction for FFB when she first met him then when he was teaching her archery.
Episode 23, when he asked her to go wandering the world with him, she agreed on the condition he abandoned his responsability. She was sincere in her answer even though she said it with an arrogant tone since she knew he couldn't. There was a hidden bitterness.
Right before, she mentions XL as a possible husband to her grandfather, just like TSJ. Which indicates she considers the two men as potential future lovers.
Later, she touches FFB's heart, understanding he is probably XL and lets him hold and caress her hand. Her gaze screams "I have feelings for you".
Episode 25, XY has the look of a lover who languishes of her man when she unmasks the guy who has entered her room. And she seems to have hope it's XL when she asks him "are you...?" before being annoyed when she thinks it's only FFB.
Later, when she knows he is XL, she tenderly watches him sleep, thinking back to fond memories before hardening herself by remembering the pain he caused her. The lyrics of the song used at this time (which is the duet of XL & XY) literally explains her thoughts: she wishes she could be with him in a next life but in this one, she feels torn while being afraid of losing him.
Episode 27, she calls him her soulmate and wishes he was only living as FFB and not XL, the enemy of her family. She then watches him leave with so much sadness and regret.
Episode 32, when she wakes up but XL refuses to see her, her attitude, her tears and the song used literally confess her love for him, a love that she can never express and that he never lets her express.
Episode 33, when XY tells her cousin she is going to wait for TSJ, CX is surprised because he has never seen her waiting for anyone and deduces that TSJ is really special for her. At that moment, the camera focuses on XY who is making a weird sad face because there is someone she keeps waiting for: XL. She waits for him to confess to her, she waits for him to come back, she says goodbye to him every time they see each other because she doesn't know if he won't die in battle etc... Almost all their scenes since she's the princess of Haoling are goodbyes.
Episode 34 screams XY loves XL. Her reaction when he calls her name at TSJ's house is that of a hurt lover, not a friend. Then, when XL mentions how the young slave was able to survive for 40 years, talking about following his heart, being patient and not giving up a faint hope, XY turns to him apprehensively, tremolos in her voice and a look that indicates she imagines XL is telling her not to give up hope they will ever be together.
Then the drama clearly shows that XY's desire to see the young slave won, her joy at his victory and her empathy afterwards are increased tenfold because she draws a parallel with XL and thinks of the latter. Which is shown when she tearfully tells him she wished she had saved him from the arena so he wouldn't owe anyone anything and could live a free life where he wouldn't be the enemy of her family and wouldn't have a losing battle as his destiny. When XL, moved, reaches out to caress her cheek, XY doesn't move and even has eyes filled with emotion. This scene alone proves they both love each other but cannot clearly express their love because of the political situation in which they are. They can only be best friends. Even TSJ is aware of this as XY lets go of his hand, lost in her thoughts/emotions towards XL.
There is also the fact she sent him poison every month, before discovering he was FFB and next to her, the fact she always walks around with poison for him etc... (which indicates he constantly occupies her thoughts).
It's the story of a woman who loves 3 men with 3 different loves and builds 3 different relationships with them.
CX: the sibling love full of nostalgia from their childhood.
TSJ: The innocent, stable, unwavering love (except his family intrusion) that she chose with her head before her heart ended up being totally moved by his devotion.
XL: The unforeseen, dangerous, impossible, uncontrollable love that her heart longs for but her head refuses to express because that kind of love will never bring her the stability and security she seeks.
I did a recap of the times the drama implies that XY loves XL. I too often see people saying she only loves Jing, that XL has no chance or, on the contrary, not understanding (and blaming) XY for her attitudes because they didn't understand she loved both of them, of different way and hadn't started loving them at the same time or for the same reasons.
I should also point out that listing this in no way diminishes her relationship with Jing. This is simply to clarify and explain to those who may not have grasped the subtleties that XY is also in love with XL.