1) CX likes FFL as a friend (it's his only friend). He's a guy who looks like him, a great support, descended from a royal family. FFL has a crush for XY but no more while XY will never love FFL more than CX. Therefore, CX is not worried their relationship will become so important that he will be pushed into the background.
So does anyone like FL or did his ship sail into the harbor too late? 🤣 For me, he is like a younger, innocent…
He seems to have preserved from life's hardships, unlike CX. And so he kept an innocent and pure side. But he's definitely not a good fit for XY. He will never put her first and, unlike all her other suitors, he isn't in love with her and therefore will not cherish her as she deserves. Marrying him would be a loss for her.
She loves the 3 ML, of 3 different loves. 1st ML: Strong sibling love since they're the only survivors of their…
3rd ML is the mortal enemy of her cousin and grandfather. He is a general from a fallen country, who fights with the survivors of his army to die in battle rather than surrender to the enemy. On top of that, he's an unpredictable demon who has harmed her physically in the past. She wants a long and happy life with a man who will never give up on her. The 3rd ML fights constantly (so can abandon her at any time for his loyalty to his army and die in battle) and is the enemy of her family. It is therefore impossible for them to be together. Therefore, she locks her heart and tries to find a husband with her head, someone who fulfills her needs and who she is attracted to. Which is the 2ML. She is physically attracted to him, likes him, they lived as a family for 6 years. He is sweet, kind and devoted to her. Moreover, he is weaker than her on some levels which gives her the impression of having the upper hand in the relationship and he is obsessed with her which reassures her in her fear of abandonment. It is a simpler and more rational love than the one with the 3rd ML, but it is nonetheless without difficulty since the 2nd ML has problems to settle with his family and neither of them is fully trusting the other (partly due to each being aware XY is not totally in love with and devoted to him).
I'm very mixed with TSJ. A part of me likes his cute and nice side but a part of me would like much more to see the confident and powerful man we see him to be at rare times (like when he comes to save XY from XL's camp in episode 4).
There are 3 points that bother me the most with him (my opinion is based only on what the drama shows, not the novel of which I only read some chapters):
1) His passivity in relation to his brother. He doesn't want revenge on his brother but knows that the latter can attack XY if he knows she matters to him. That being said, I find it hard to know if he has a plan to prevent this or not. How to protect XY from his brother if he does nothing against him?
3) His attitude towards XY. He constantly belittles himself in front of her, calling out for her pity (but not wanting it either). And while I understand his insecurity, I find sometimes he uses that to his advantage more than to really confide in the woman he loves. He asks her to wait for him for 15 years while he fixes his mess and keeps reminding her of this promise. He also spies on her. All this doesn't please me because it seems to indicates a certain manipulation and a lack of trust. Like is he devalues ​​himself because he knows she will take pity on him and, that her heart will be moved and therefore more likely to fall in love over time. He makes her promise to wait for him and not to love another and keeps reminding her because he knows/thinks she can break his promise and doesn't trust her or her love for him (but still, he want to tie her to him). He spies on her because he doesn't respect her autonomy and needs to see what she's doing with another man.
Conclusion: He is the nicest, most stable and cute of the 3 MLs. But maybe that's exactly why I expect more from him. Instead, there are several red flags that confuse me. And since I don't see him taking action to protect his future with XY, to protect his place in his household, and I don't like the way he is obsessed, possessive, and emotionally manipulative with her, he's not one of my favorites at all. It may also be my personal experience that makes me really uncomfortable with this kind of attitude. But I hope he will evolve and that by the end of the drama, what I blame him for will no longer be.
In the novel they said that TSJ did not play the zither for 20 years before XY asked him to play for her. The…
Thanks for this great summary of the novel's timeline! In the drama, it's seems XY & FFB went buying the new bow close to the assassination since they last saw each other the same night. Considering the drama, I think we can say : 6 years at Qinshui Town. At least 1 year at Haoling with her father. At least 2 years at Xiyan town (CX used drugs for more than 6 months and before that FFB & XY had time to become friends, travel together, learn archery etc...). At least 2 years in the central plains. At least 1 year at FFL house. So no less than 6 years since the promise.
I'm going to say about ten years more or less because in the novel when he starts playing the zither it says he…
Oh, so indeed, it may be 10 years. Maybe she had less than a year at Haoling, then more than a year at Xiyan town and now more or less 8 years since CX and XY left their grand-mother Mont. Thanks x)
I remember her mentioning when CX and her finally left Xiyan that its been 6 months (I think its how long he was…
Indeed, XY mentionned CX is taking the drugs since 6 months. And he started taking them long after coming back to Xiyan since he was doing a lot of work for the minister before this. And XY had time to meet FFB, learned archery, traveled with him and so on. So, it's been a couple of years at least when they left in episode 25. Thanks for reminding me that!
I think it has been a little over 70 years. XY mentioned that she had been drinking the plum wine for that long…
She was talking about her 70years waiting at Mont Jade as a child, waiting for her cousin or her father to come take her. We know TSJ lived with her in Qinshui Town for around 6 years. And right after, they made the 15 years promise who's still not fulfill (so it's less thant 15 years since she became the Princesse again).
Does anyone have any idea how long has passed since XY became the Princess of Haoling again? How long did she spend in Xiyan with her cousin? I don't know if it was said in the drama and I missed this sentence or if it was never said. I would like to know how many years have passed compared to the promise of 15 years.
I hope they include this scene or show Xiang Liu that he is in Xiao Yao's heart too
This scene is central to understand XY. Her choices, her actions, her words, her struggles. It's an important part of her journey (her silent love for XL she kept to herself and even from herself because it hurts so much). If they don't include this, it'll be a huge lost for XY & XL and for the story. It's 3 love-stories (sibling love, pure/innocent first love, impossible painful silent soulmates love) and a woman's journey through these 3 relationships. I think, considering how the drama is for now, how XL is quite well-written, they won't forget this important scene.
At that time, she did not even know that XiangLiu was listening. For him that was their first meeting, she only…
In the last episodes, she knew for a long time XL was listening when she was singing to lure out FeiFei so I don't understand your point here (but I say that with respect). Plus, like insideout91 said, this song can remind her XL regardless or if she knew or not he was listening.
Considering what YZ posted on weibo, do you guys think the reason they chose to put YaoLiu duet song during Yaoling time together was also to underline she missed XL, that's why she was so drunk, try to be happy all the time and sing the song of their first meeting?
I didn't read the novel but someone here posted Mu Fei guy noticed her at the birthday party, cuz of her strong…
He put a young innocent girl to an excruciate death to revenge again a man she never knew because he could be her father. Logic and fairness are not in his vocabulary. He's a crazy man who find an awful way to try to apaise his sorrow. I'll never understand people blaming/punishing relative for somebody else crime.
The summary is so confusing above. So who does FL loves and who did she end up with?
She loves the 3 ML, of 3 different loves. 1st ML: Strong sibling love since they're the only survivors of their Xiyan family (except a grand-father who's also their ruler). 2nd ML: First love, pure, innocent but not without difficulty. 3rd ML: Soulmates impossible love (since they're enemies but also best friends with feelings for one another). And she ends up with the 2nd ML (TSJ, the fox). Basically, her relationship with the 1st is family, the 2nd it's romantic, the 3rd it's friendly with strong romantic undertones never explored (since neither wants to allow him/herself to fall in love or make the other know they have feelings).
1) CX likes FFL as a friend (it's his only friend). He's a guy who looks like him, a great support, descended from a royal family. FFL has a crush for XY but no more while XY will never love FFL more than CX.
Therefore, CX is not worried their relationship will become so important that he will be pushed into the background.
2) TSJ is engaged to an important family, the whole country is aware of this and praises the perfect couple he forms with his fiancée. Even if TSJ manages to call off his engagement, his reputation and that of XY will take a hit. But there, he's courting and flirting with XY while he's still engaged and, perhaps, will not be able to call off his engagement. Which enrages CX both as a man who loves XY and as an older male member of XY's family.
His rage when he thinks they share intimate moments at night is increased tenfold because of this. As a cousin, honor demands he kills TSJ, and as a man in love, he can't bear to imagine them intimate.
3) CX is afraid XY will end up loving TSJ more than him and prioritizing TSJ over him.
She wants a long and happy life with a man who will never give up on her. The 3rd ML fights constantly (so can abandon her at any time for his loyalty to his army and die in battle) and is the enemy of her family. It is therefore impossible for them to be together. Therefore, she locks her heart and tries to find a husband with her head, someone who fulfills her needs and who she is attracted to.
Which is the 2ML. She is physically attracted to him, likes him, they lived as a family for 6 years. He is sweet, kind and devoted to her. Moreover, he is weaker than her on some levels which gives her the impression of having the upper hand in the relationship and he is obsessed with her which reassures her in her fear of abandonment.
It is a simpler and more rational love than the one with the 3rd ML, but it is nonetheless without difficulty since the 2nd ML has problems to settle with his family and neither of them is fully trusting the other (partly due to each being aware XY is not totally in love with and devoted to him).
There are 3 points that bother me the most with him (my opinion is based only on what the drama shows, not the novel of which I only read some chapters):
1) His passivity in relation to his brother.
He doesn't want revenge on his brother but knows that the latter can attack XY if he knows she matters to him. That being said, I find it hard to know if he has a plan to prevent this or not. How to protect XY from his brother if he does nothing against him?
2) His engagement and his inability to call it off.
He doesn't love his fiancée, doesn't want to marry her and keeps telling her that. However, apart from asking his grandmother to accept, he doesn't seem to do anything about it. He doesn't go to see his fiancée's family, he doesn't seem to investigate his fiancée (who is very suspicious) whereas following her for 2 seconds would allow him to discover the affair between her brother and her. For me it's a problem if he can't manage this for years, letting the population get used to his engagement. The more time passes, the more difficult it will be to break it. And the harder it will be to get his marriage to XY accepted without it being frowned upon.
3) His attitude towards XY.
He constantly belittles himself in front of her, calling out for her pity (but not wanting it either). And while I understand his insecurity, I find sometimes he uses that to his advantage more than to really confide in the woman he loves. He asks her to wait for him for 15 years while he fixes his mess and keeps reminding her of this promise. He also spies on her.
All this doesn't please me because it seems to indicates a certain manipulation and a lack of trust. Like is he devalues ​​himself because he knows she will take pity on him and, that her heart will be moved and therefore more likely to fall in love over time. He makes her promise to wait for him and not to love another and keeps reminding her because he knows/thinks she can break his promise and doesn't trust her or her love for him (but still, he want to tie her to him). He spies on her because he doesn't respect her autonomy and needs to see what she's doing with another man.
Conclusion:
He is the nicest, most stable and cute of the 3 MLs. But maybe that's exactly why I expect more from him. Instead, there are several red flags that confuse me. And since I don't see him taking action to protect his future with XY, to protect his place in his household, and I don't like the way he is obsessed, possessive, and emotionally manipulative with her, he's not one of my favorites at all. It may also be my personal experience that makes me really uncomfortable with this kind of attitude. But I hope he will evolve and that by the end of the drama, what I blame him for will no longer be.
Am I the only one having this feeling with him?
The latter has stolen supplies from Xiyan and wants to transport them to his army. So he needs TSJ.
In the drama, it's seems XY & FFB went buying the new bow close to the assassination since they last saw each other the same night.
Considering the drama, I think we can say :
6 years at Qinshui Town.
At least 1 year at Haoling with her father.
At least 2 years at Xiyan town (CX used drugs for more than 6 months and before that FFB & XY had time to become friends, travel together, learn archery etc...).
At least 2 years in the central plains.
At least 1 year at FFL house.
So no less than 6 years since the promise.
Thanks x)
Thanks for reminding me that!
We know TSJ lived with her in Qinshui Town for around 6 years. And right after, they made the 15 years promise who's still not fulfill (so it's less thant 15 years since she became the Princesse again).
I don't know if it was said in the drama and I missed this sentence or if it was never said.
I would like to know how many years have passed compared to the promise of 15 years.
I think, considering how the drama is for now, how XL is quite well-written, they won't forget this important scene.
Plus, like insideout91 said, this song can remind her XL regardless or if she knew or not he was listening.
1st ML: Strong sibling love since they're the only survivors of their Xiyan family (except a grand-father who's also their ruler).
2nd ML: First love, pure, innocent but not without difficulty.
3rd ML: Soulmates impossible love (since they're enemies but also best friends with feelings for one another).
And she ends up with the 2nd ML (TSJ, the fox).
Basically, her relationship with the 1st is family, the 2nd it's romantic, the 3rd it's friendly with strong romantic undertones never explored (since neither wants to allow him/herself to fall in love or make the other know they have feelings).