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to future Cdrama writers - When you run out ways to solve a major issue,
get the FL drunk and the booze will kill all brain cells that caused the issue - if you can't recall the issue, it never happened.

Wow, the FL's mother is something else.
The brothers are shameless.

It's a total nightmare package.
She needs to run from them.

Perfect ML?
Why would the ML be imperfect if had close female friends? Name one drama where a cdrama or kdrama ML had a female friend very similar to the male friend, the FL has in this drama.
In reverse, I can name a dozen dramas this year where FL has close male friend.
Let's be honest.
the only reason these fake ML exist because the writers want the ML to have bare minimum interactions with women other than FL.
These ML's are NOT perfect.
They are fake.
Anyone who has ever interacted with any man in their life would tell watching 5 mins of these ML's that they are complete fake.
And having these fake men as ML's in each and every drama without an iota of deviation in their characteristics is the issue.

Regarding Ten Miles, the FL is free to do anything she wants.
Point was about how much of disgusting simp ML was.
After getting dumped, taking care of their kid, doing all sorts of things for her, he had to beg like an idiot in front of a person who did not give shit about him.
The idea that she should not blamed for dumping her husband and kid and going on about her life is beyond pale.
If a man did that, no one on this earth would be that accomidative or understanding.
if in chinese culture master deserves love and respect, Wonder what husband and child deserves?
When one starts making excuses for abandoning a child and justify it, then it's reflection on how wrong the argument is.

It's the same in every Cdrama. The ML's after falling for Fl, lose every ounce their dignity and themselves.

if ML talks and has female friends, similar to how FL has male friends, it becomes cheating?
How does one reach that conclusion.

ML simping is the problem. because the FL's are remotely not dedicated to the ML's. I just showed how FL did nothing when her dad got the ML thrashed.
ML's, when they fall in love, they become someone else. someone pathetic and worse.
the FL stay the same. You will never see them compromise on their dignity for the ML. Never

ML being dedicated in love is never the issue.
FL barely showing similar dedication is teh issue. For FL, their goals, friends and family are always more important than ML.
Even in this drama, what exactly does the FL do for the ML? What is she going through for ML? The most emotion she ever showed in the drama was the other guy, not the ML.

The tropes you say are common and accepted by audience are the problem for me.
Instead of asking me to stop watching, why not join me and complain? These are incredibly shitty and fake tropes.

regarding ten miles,
ML always & every time did right by FL.
It was the FL who dumped him and their child.
Imagine if a man dumped his wife and new born and ran away to help some other woman.
This is incredible really. That woman dumped her new born and husband and waltzing around the world for anotehr man....but it was the husband who was taking care of their baby. who crawled for forgiveness. It really boggles ones mind even justifying the shit writers came up with in that drama!

Like I said, ML's in Cdramas are simps with not an iota of dignity or self-respect.
They get abused by FL, her male friends, her ex's, her family, her colleagues, her suitors and he will take it like a wimp and then for strange reason beg FL for forgiveness.

Whether most watchers are women or men or some other gender is moot.
The points I raised...
1. same ML, FL and 2ML in each and every drama
2. Same tropes in each and every drama
3. fake ML who does not resemble any man ever born on this planet
are spot on and pertinent.

These dramas are becoming more and more like a kind of porn, written by writers with serious psychological issues.

Let's compare Xu kai's dramas, This one and 'She and her perfect husband'.

The FL has multiple men through out both the dramas surrounding them.
The other man in FL life will be closely involved with her, many a time the ML will have front row seat to their history, closeness and even interactions.
The 2ML has a large screen time and intense interactions with FL.

Let's go back a year or so. 'falling into your smile'. The FL has an ex, few other suitors. We see FL and her ex interacting, we also see Fl and her ex doing things in front of ML to make him jealous.
Xi Kai character in that drama is a hot male, rich, son of industrialist, running a company himself, very successful in his field, well educated, late 20's, never had a gf, never even looked at a girl until the FL came into his life.

Xu Kai as ML in all these dramas has disappointing relations with females other than FL.

If the same actor is portraying the same ML across multiple dramas, there is something really wrong with the industry.

The only angry ones are the ones trying to dissuade me from posting.

If someone is unhappy about posts, they can give a wide breadth.

I would rather people discussed what I posted, than me.

Having said that, you point about SML being her family/friend is the worst and most used trope in Cdramas.
You could see in Ep 1 that 2ML will turn out this way.
That he would be used to give FL attention of multiple males, make ML jealous etc etc, the usual shitty tropes.

Coming to acting out by FL. You get most hurt by betrayal of ones closest to you. That's human nature. If she was acting out on what ML did, which was not even a betrayal, she should have done 100000 worse when her family betrayed her in a spectacular fashion.
but because writers want FL's to lie down and offer their bums to 2ML, this drama also went with that trope. Gone was the strong FL with loud voice. In came whimpering.

ML is shown to be even more cucked since ep 20. He keeps taking more and more punishment for the FL just to show viewers how much FL means to him.
Again, another Cdrama trope. the ML will show utter devotion and unflinching loyalty to FL. The reciprocation does not happen. As example, the so called strong willed FL does not even say a word to her dad after ML was thrashed with a whip.
LOL...so much for her love towards the ML.
Imagine the reverse, if the ML father got FL thrashed with a whip...do you think the drama would still go with passive ML who would say nothing?
Does anyone remember in 'Eternal Love' how the ML would take the worst punishment FL gets, the lightning whips & still grovels to the FL in the end?

Cdramas are a mess because you know exactly what the journey of ML and FL is, how these 2 characters behave.

It's not the tropes that are the problem.
It's the use of exact same tropes in every freaking drama. The characters are copies from the last 100 cdramas.

Instead of saying don't watch, why not show me how the ML and FL are different from the other Cdramas we have seen in last few years?

The most absurd trope is the ML and complete lack of females in his life.
The same writers that give FL multiple men in her life with some men who are extremely close, give exactly zero women in ML's life.

I thought western male authors had difficulty in writing female characters, while the female western authors could write great men characters.
With regret I must say the Cdrama and kdrama writers, especially the female writers write shit for male characters.

Right until the moment 2ML betrayal becomes clear, FL was affectionate to him, not romantic one but you can see the same affection in her eyes that she had for him since episode 1.

Even after the betrayal becomes clear, she does not go after him verbally like she did with ML.
even in ep 23, with him trying to kill her father, the FL does not go after his verbally.
That the person who she cried for, abused ML for, betrays her & there is really no visible impact on her emotionally.

Besides that,
what's absolutely disappointing is the ML, FL, 2ML trope being played that we have seen in every Cdrama romance.

When was the last time a cdrama romance did not have a 2ML who is very near and dear to the FL?
And on flip side does anyone recall a Cdrama where the ML had a female near him, with similar interactions as the FL has with the 2ML?

Point being, these are predictable characters with predictable tropes.
THAT is what is disappointing.

The main characters in this drama are exact copies of hundreds of Cdrams in this genre. Not even an iota of change in their characteristics and relations.

When the characters becomes predictable in Episode 1, it's basically shit story telling.

I mean, please raise your hands if you did not know 2ML would go this route in episode 1?

As expected, the drama goes on expected lines in ep 22.

Like many many many other Cdrama, the 2ML makes clown of FL.
FL, so powerful and angry against ML becomes a weak pansy against the 2ML.
She does not even utter 1% of nonsense she did against the ML.

This is typical Cdrama trope.
the FL will be close to 2ML, show affection and friendship to him.
The drama also makes the ML witness this affection and friendship. It's part of the trope where the ML will need to deal with the very very closeness of FL and 2ML.

on other hand, the ML's in any of these Cdramas will never ever have any female close to him, similar to how the 2ML is close the FL in this drama.

These Cdramas are predictable crap really.
You could see this coming in Ep1.

These Cdrama writers have the same FL, ML, 2ML and same tropes in each and every drama of theirs.
just because the story is changed, does not make these dramas different.

This is turning out to be just another average Cdrama with repeated ML, FL and 2ML.
Not even disappointed since these characters are pretty much what was expected watching the first episode.

What? and you want to miss medicine snogging? It's practically a shoe in in every fantasy Cdrama romance.
If you are not having a medicine delivery kissing, then it ain't cdrama.
The fall on each other lips by accident, don't break teeth but breach the mouths with tongues is another top 10 cdrama kissing tropes.

Without these tropes, I refuse to watch Cdramas.

Lets hope so.
So many good cdramas go down the drain due to the love triangle dragging and 2ML literally getting away with murder. Just the dumbness of that trope.

well, i don't mind dumb ML or FL or any other quirks.

As long as you get the basics right.
the FL in these dramas smell right. They could be dumb, boring, smart, etc etc but they look and act like girls.
the ML on other hand smell fake. When I look at them, there is not a single thing about them that convinces me that's a man i am looking at.

Calling it out,

there would few episodes of really cringy love triangle coming our way.
the innocent FL thinking her male bestie is a lamb and all his attention to her is friendly, the ML trying to sort the crap and 2ML happily pushing every boundary and taking advantage of the FL.

When you are in army and in leadership position, the only thinking that should be done is by the brain & not by the organ in mid-section.

ML was brilliant in ep15. Logical, kind, balanced and brutal.
in ep16, he did not make any sense. As leader he failed. If any of his men watched how he put up with the FL tantrums, it would be justified if his own men put a knife in his back.

As a leader he completely lost the plot in ep16.

I found nothing wrong with the FL in this one.
She was normal girl, dated guys, had no problems interacting with people like a regular person etc etc.

It was the ML, he was fake.
written by someone who certainly has zero idea about men. There certainly are no men on this planet ike the ML's in romance Kdramas and Cdramas.
All of them are fakest of fakes written by someone who probably thinks only women have sexual feelings and men fall in love once and never have sexual feelings.

Even in a tin pot Army, the FL would have beheaded the 2ML for what he did, on the spot.
But she is a lieutenant and the guy who betrayed and killed her alliance people does not even get any punishment.

the whole ML apologizing to FL did not make any sense.
Did she apologize for what happened to ML's men? she did not, not even once. Even though it was her people who were directly responsible.

but, the ML grovels as if he caused the death of her friend.
If anyone, it was her who killed her friend. Her incompetency led to the ambush and death.
The betrayal prior to that and her lack of remorse from FL, meant ML was in no position to help her men. Had she said sorry in public and groveled in front of ML and his men, may be there was a case.
but, after learning what her friend did, she just carries on shamelessly, without any thought or remorse.

The writers wrote garbage ep16.
It did not make sense for ML to even suffer a minute of her tantrum. The minute she started her crap, the ML should have shut her down.
If grief gives her some special rights to do crap, it gives the ML special rights as well. he was also grieving loss of his own friends by her friend.

Convinced that who ever is writing these Kdramas and Cdramas have no idea how to write male characters.
It's very clear they have zero idea about men.

These writers should spend few minutes with a man and then may be they can see how fake their ML's are.

She was never his real girl friend.
It was something arranged and the ML went along with it.

the drama does not even show them holding hands, let alone do anything remotely that can be considered to be a relationship.

If anything, FL and her crush had more going on than the ML and his supposed girl friend.

ML's do cringy simping, at times
2ML's do psycho simping. the kind where you wake up in middle of night & find a clown sitting next to your bed and staring at you.

anyway, ML simping at times is not bad.
Always believed men should give way to their women in most of things and pamper them as much as possible. but when it comes to important things, it should never be done. Do the right thing. There are things men can pamper and simp for their woman & there are things they should not.

in Ep15, the ML was spot on.
He did not give in and rush to the save FL's friend. Instead, he cared more for his own men's feelings and only helped the FL. Post that, he did not give in on this point, which was a good thing.
The bad thing was the entire ep16.

yes, one of the better ones out there

That guy has way too much blood.
Wonder what eats to cough so much blood and still look like a model with six pack.