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The anger is not because of just this drama.
These kinds of ML's have been the trend in Cdramas and Kdramas for few years now.

Almost every Cdramas and a lot of Kdramas with romance as main theme has a ML who rarely would have liked any other woman than FL, while the FL is just as we see in this drama...

the disappointment comes from watching the same ML waiting for the FL, while the FL goes around doing her own thing and dating/liking other men.

This is Kdrama and that's exactly how they like their ML's.

Looks like it is you who needs some relationship experience.

And the ML and FL were NOT in a relationship when that happened.

THAT my friend is the problem.
Not only the writers but also viewers think ML needed to be sorry towards someone who he is not in a relationship, over an issue where was NOT at fault.

worse, the FL was at fault and the ML was crawling like an idiot to make amends..

May be this is the kind of spineless men that is trend now a days.

I did, could not find a single drama where the ML looks at a woman's body and reacts.
On other hand, challenge me and I will show you FL's drooling over a handsome man other than ML.

instead of asking me to find a ML drooling over a woman, why not just name the drama, episode and we can carry on the discussion..

You yourself are confirming couple of ultra short ones.
So, there was a small spark there to even start that relationship.

And I am pretty sure when a pretty girl walked by or even now walks by, you would have looked and appreciated the looks.

THAT never happens in Cdramas or Kdrama.

Like I challenged here, show me one drama where the ML looks at another woman and shows sexual desire.
I can show a dozen dramas in last 6 months where the FL is shown appreciating a handsome man.

Taking you as an example and comparing is very uncomfortable, I would rather be generic.

My point is simple ->
Be consistent.
If you are building a world where sexual feelings are rare and romance is pure etc etc, have both ML and FL the same way.
but showing ML as a monk and FL as normal girl does not work.

I hope the point is understood.

Kdrama 101 -
ML always have a trauma that always affect their sexual desires.
Fl's never have any trauma & nothing affects their sexual desires.

ML dating multiple women = man wh0re
FL actually having dated multiple men = ??

hmm...are you implying that the FL is a wh0re?

Are you implying that the FL is a horny for having dated other men apart from ML?
And that the FL is a modern western women with appetite for casual sex while the ML is a traditional asian monk who does not take sexual relationships lightly?

yuck, the slut shaming of FL's should stop.

Guess Jeju does not have women..

You don't need lot of options. With his looks the only thing ML had to do was decide to date, he would have found suitable woman even in a forest.

Kdramas do fare better, I give you that.

The 3 dramas you have pointed I have not watched. I will give them a go and get back.
but all of them seem to be historical dramas, reflecting China in those ages where Haram was part of process.

Also, the fact that you could not point at a single recent drama where the ML is attracted to another woman than FL is telling.
Want me to point to few dramas this year where the FL is doing exactly that?

Point though is, do you see the ML shown being attracted to other woman than FL and does the drama show this on screen?

I have been watching Cdramas for last few years and I have NEVER seen a cdrama ML showing an iota of attraction to any other woman than FL.
Just because a drama has women around the ML does not make a harem. harem is when the ML is shown romancing multiple women.

before saying spot on, point to a single ML in any cdrama who liked many girls growing up and had multiple relationships?

may be some one should point me to a drama in last 2 years where the ML is shown being attracted to some other woman than FL.

Just point me to those dramas and I will concede the point.

lol. you had interesting life and an unique one and a great one as well.

Just to get your story straight in points

- you grew up as healthy boy, liking many girls as you grew up
- you also had many relationships
- eventually you realized you liked the girl who grew up with you and had a happy ending. Caveat is, you did not realize you liked her until some pointed to and then it became mutual

That's a normal story of boy, man, except you falling for your bestie.

Now, let's review ark of typical cdrama ML.
- never liked any girl
- never shows any attraction to any girl
- meets FL, falls in love with her and happy ending.

This is like 90% of cdrama ML's. in most dramas, pretty much this is what the ML is like.

THAT was what my main point was.
If some one tells you a 30 year old man, never liked a girl or never felt sexually attracted to a girl - what would you say?

My limited point that a man knows when he likes a girl, is generic, may be there could be exceptions but the statement for most part is very true.
BUT, what is not an exception is a 30 year old straight, healthy man being projected as some one who was never attracted to any girl. that is pretty much a straight up BS.

Thats why I say most ML's in cdramas are fake.

LASTLY and this is IMPORTANT.
Please do read my first post, I clearly talked about LIKING only.
In fact, my post clearly differentiates like and love & I even said a man may not know he loves a girl but surely knows when he likes her.

do let me know the drama where ML had a harem and was on screen romancing multiple women?

May be ones few years back.

I have not seen a single cdrama in last few years where ML has been shown on screen attracted to another woman or have intimate moments with other woman.
In fact most cdramas don't even have ML even looking at any other woman.

Please do provide me some dramas where ML is shown attracted to other woman than FL or have some intimate moments with other woman?
That would pretty much put this debate to rest.

On contrary, I can provide 10 cdramas in last 1 month where FL has that kind of interactions with men other than ML.

Kdramas are little better but have progressively getting similar to cdramas in projecting ML.

Neither in modern, nor in historical dramas, the men.....dont smell right.

I would have definitely agreed with your premise of 'younger and naive audience' as reason why it is toned down, IF the FL were also similarly written.

There is not a single Cdrama or kdrama where the ML is shown on screen being sexually attracted to any other woman than the FL of that drama.
The FL's on other hand, in many dramas are sexually OK. Not really there in terms of reality but you do see FL's seeing an attractive man and having positive reaction.
In fact there are quite a few dramas where the FL show significant amount of attraction to men other than ML.

If anyone could refer to a single cdrama where the ML showed a spark of sexual attraction to any other woman than the FL, I will agree your premise is spot on.

This drama is pretty fun and leads have great chemistry
but, the whole tone of drama where ML is in wrong to have liked another woman than FL is cringy.
being close to reality is not necessary, just have the ML's as real as the FL's.

because it's fun.

anyway, I would rather discuss the trope in these drama where they show a man does not realize he likes a woman...

men practically have radars that go off when they like a woman.
These radars pretty much scream to the man when they like a woman.
And it's a not subtle indicator. It's a very HARD indicator that a man gets when he likes a woman.
When that radar gives a hard signal, men usually find ways to switch off the siren. Sometimes multiple times a day.

So, yeah, the whole notion that a man does not realize that he likes a woman is kind of BS.

The writers can take liberties on a lot of stuff but reinventing basic biology should not be one.

That 'you like someone but don't realize it' concept only exists in Cdramas and kdramas.

Only boys who just hit puberty and don't have knowledge about birds and bees may not realize when they like a girl,
grown boys and men 100% know when they like a woman. They may not realize they love her but liking a girl is something a man is never confused about.

The drama also shows ML approaching other girl.
Disappointing thing is that the writers crap on that by making ML give crappy theories to FL about why he approached other woman. they should have just left it at ML liking that woman and moving on.

The whole mess is confusing as once again we are in a drama written by someone who has no idea about men.
There is a reason Cdramas never provide POV of any ML but we get POV of FL in every episode. the writers simply are not capable of writing POV of men.
The ML might as well be an alien from another planet. that's how unrelatable they are.

nobles in those times are 100 times more scheming than assasins.

Who do think employs these assasins? it;s the nobles themselves.

A noble guy in those times would be having dozens of women.
If there was any reality to this drama, the ML would be rolling around in a harem.
I think watching lot of unrealistic cdramas has given us completely wrong picture how men belonging to nobility were like in old times.