I know some will disagree with me, but I don't fault Nan Lan for choosing a different man, just for how she did…
Every cheater has bunch of excuses. She knew exactly who and what MRF was before getting into a relationship with him. He provided, protected and looked after them to the best of his abilities & never ever abused her in remotest sense. Imagine a soldiers wife started shagging other guys cause the husband is away fighting war for months.
Forget about MRF truly loving her, if she ever truly loved him, she would not have done what she did. It's not like he went off to have fun with other women. Love is not one way street.
It looks like you have a thing for love triangles and ‘multiple’ It's my second time seeing you complaining…
Love triangle should feel organic to the story not forced or out of place.
Mix and match the love triangles, give the men some interactions with other girls for god sake. It feels odd to look at Cdrama ML who look as though he has no idea what sex is or how it is done. Make the men have more sexual reactions wrt to women, just like how the FL reacts to good looking men.
make the characters and their interactions more believable. Right now the love triangles in many dramas don't serve a purpose and make what follows as illogical. It's because the show runners want to show the FL having multiple men in her life. If it feels part of the story and organic, this would not happen.
Most importantly variety. Currently a love triangle is default FL and 2 men. There are variations of the same but at the end of the day, it's almost always FL and multiple men. The writers need to give us something new.
It looks like you have a thing for love triangles and ‘multiple’ It's my second time seeing you complaining…
It does not matter if it's even a girl and multiple guys or vice versa. It needs to make sense. Characters need to make sense. Continuity needs to make sense.
A love triangle I absolutely loved is 'Love and Redemption'. It was simply riveting & it made complete sense why it was there. A love triangle that absolutely made no sense was Binary Love. That killed characters of ML and FL completely. the worst of the lot are the CEO & Cinderella trope ones. To be honest, the first few I watched, i was hooked by how good they were. I did not realize that they have been doing the same trope for years without an iota of change to the characters of ML and FL.
it is all about mix and match. I don't want to see the same type of ML and FL played in every romance drama. The story needs to make sense, the characters need to make sense. And because the characters lack variety, they start coming off as fake and boring.
It looks like you have a thing for love triangles and ‘multiple’ It's my second time seeing you complaining…
I am not against love triangles. I am against the same triangle being repeated in every drama that has a love triangle.
You are right, will keep posting in similar dramas.
I will bet anything about every love triangle in cdramas this year will be about FL and her dildos.. I Want to be surprised by the writers and directors of cdramas by showing some variety in love triangles BUT we all know it will always be the FL and her dildos.
Oh please, this is nothing like the Chinese fantasy dramas. in fact this drama has more similarities with western fantasy tropes than the Chinese ones.
This is a new genre on it's own. I thought it would be a copy of Chinese Wuxia or Fantasy but it was not.
This surely is top 5 Kdrama/Cdrama this year. The most fun part of trying to figure out the genre of this drama. Dare say the makers have created a whole new world with it's own set of rules that future drama creators can play with. This drama was part horor, part fantasy, part sword & sandles and part adventure with right amount of romance sprinkled in.
Some of the romance tropes did slow down the pace in few places, would have liked the makers to trim down a episode or two to remove some of the slow pacing and continuity aspects, which frankly were not needed.
The male lead is a total loyal person to the people he love. The ML was full on 'I will marry no one but her'…
My point is less about fairness and more about variety.
If you start watching a new drama and you can easily predict how the premise of main characters, it becomes boring. the ML and FL you see in this drama is pretty much the norm in most Cdramas now a days. the leads in this drama are the same as the leads in 90% of Cdramas released in last year.
in my limited viewing experience of Cdramas and Kdramas, the love triangle is almost always the FL and multiple men around her. The converse almost never happens. Once as viewer I can predict this at the start of the drama, you are not that interested since you know the basic journey of FL & ML.
When was the last drama any of us watched where towards the end you are not sure if ML will end up with FL or 2FL? In fact I don't remember watching a drama where 2FL has romantic interactions with ML and is genuinely a nice person who you can root for. Most 2FL are manipulative and horrible women. There is no variety in 2FL, they are almost always bad.
So, it's not about fairness. It's all about variety, which sadly Cdrama are lacking.
??? Of all the critics I've heard about this drama,this has to be the worst one because there's no trace of truth…
read my original post please.
I did not trash it.
For those who like this kind of storyline, this is a perfect drama. To me though, it seemed repetitive.
Whether the 2ML is a red flag or not is not the point. This is just another variation of that formulae. The base of the story is centered around three people, the FL and the two men in her life. Everyone else is the supporting cast, This premise & it's variations form the core of most Xianxia dramas.
Not that it's wrong but personally finding the base very repetitive and boring.
??? Of all the critics I've heard about this drama,this has to be the worst one because there's no trace of truth…
So, the 2ML who is in love with the FL does not spend extended amount of time with her? Watched a dozen episodes but it is apparent the 2ML is here to stay with FL until the last episode.
The male lead is a total loyal person to the people he love. The ML was full on 'I will marry no one but her'…
I enjoy variety. When there is no variety and all you are getting is the same ML and FL, it gets predictable and boring.
Fight breaks sphere was fun mostly because there was little romance and it concentrated on what it needed to tell. Even in that the ML remains, how should I put it, devoid of sexual attraction to the girls around him and he is a teenager in the drama.
Modern dramas, especially CEO Cdramas are hit and miss for me. Some of them are appealing and some are not, same as period pieces and Wuxia.
pretty much tilting towards watching dramas with little romance. The recent ones with heavy romance started feeling cringy and corny & predictably boring.
Currently watching 'Listening Snow Tower', few episodes in and it's absolutely riveting.
The male lead is a total loyal person to the people he love. The ML was full on 'I will marry no one but her'…
There is NO 2FL in Cdramas, ML are shown to never even look at them or even think about about them even for a second.
On contrary you have 2ML, 3ML and in some even 4th and the FL has nice rounded interactions with all of them.
Case in point - this very drama.
If this drama was remotely 'real life', per the time period, the ML would have been married to few women by the time he became a general. Since that would be disastrous to sell to audiences, I can understand why the dramas don't do it.
But showing that these successful and powerful men have completely sworn off women until the FL enters their life is ridiculous and frankly insulting viewers intelligence.
This is fiction, made up world by the writer. Most Chinese writers seems to have a fixed pattern for their ML...a man who never dated, never interacted with women except FL, should never have liked other women than FL, should never touch other women, shows zero sexual interest in girls....the list goes on. basically they want a man who only ever loved the FL in his life and never looked at other women. The whole theory of 'growing up' by dating multiple people never applies to Cdrama ML, that seems to be unique to FL, who has multiple men close to her for her 'growth'.
I really don't remember watching a Cdrama in last 2 years where as viewer I genuinely felt the ML could end with 2FL. In fact I don't remember any drama in last couple of years where the ML is shown to be romancing or even looking at 2FL. On contrary, every other drama has FL is shown crying over other men in front of ML or being in love with other men & the ML works hard to win FL over. If nothing, there has to be just men surrounding her.
Just as reversal, imagine if MRF cheated on her with another woman, took their baby and left her alone.....
She knew exactly who and what MRF was before getting into a relationship with him.
He provided, protected and looked after them to the best of his abilities & never ever abused her in remotest sense.
Imagine a soldiers wife started shagging other guys cause the husband is away fighting war for months.
Forget about MRF truly loving her, if she ever truly loved him, she would not have done what she did. It's not like he went off to have fun with other women.
Love is not one way street.
She is stealing the show from ML.
As much as I enjoyed ML journey from child -> man, they should have taken some time to show us FL journey ark as well.
Mix and match the love triangles, give the men some interactions with other girls for god sake. It feels odd to look at Cdrama ML who look as though he has no idea what sex is or how it is done. Make the men have more sexual reactions wrt to women, just like how the FL reacts to good looking men.
make the characters and their interactions more believable. Right now the love triangles in many dramas don't serve a purpose and make what follows as illogical. It's because the show runners want to show the FL having multiple men in her life. If it feels part of the story and organic, this would not happen.
Most importantly variety.
Currently a love triangle is default FL and 2 men. There are variations of the same but at the end of the day, it's almost always FL and multiple men. The writers need to give us something new.
nothing beats a real person though when it comes to romance.
Would rather the men be men than be dildos.
It needs to make sense.
Characters need to make sense.
Continuity needs to make sense.
A love triangle I absolutely loved is 'Love and Redemption'. It was simply riveting & it made complete sense why it was there.
A love triangle that absolutely made no sense was Binary Love. That killed characters of ML and FL completely.
the worst of the lot are the CEO & Cinderella trope ones. To be honest, the first few I watched, i was hooked by how good they were. I did not realize that they have been doing the same trope for years without an iota of change to the characters of ML and FL.
it is all about mix and match. I don't want to see the same type of ML and FL played in every romance drama. The story needs to make sense, the characters need to make sense. And because the characters lack variety, they start coming off as fake and boring.
I am against the same triangle being repeated in every drama that has a love triangle.
You are right, will keep posting in similar dramas.
I will bet anything about every love triangle in cdramas this year will be about FL and her dildos..
I Want to be surprised by the writers and directors of cdramas by showing some variety in love triangles
BUT
we all know it will always be the FL and her dildos.
in fact this drama has more similarities with western fantasy tropes than the Chinese ones.
If the drama Kingdom has magic and fantastical elements in it, this might be it.
This surely is top 5 Kdrama/Cdrama this year.
The most fun part of trying to figure out the genre of this drama. Dare say the makers have created a whole new world with it's own set of rules that future drama creators can play with.
This drama was part horor, part fantasy, part sword & sandles and part adventure with right amount of romance sprinkled in.
Some of the romance tropes did slow down the pace in few places, would have liked the makers to trim down a episode or two to remove some of the slow pacing and continuity aspects, which frankly were not needed.
Can't want for season 2.
If you start watching a new drama and you can easily predict how the premise of main characters, it becomes boring.
the ML and FL you see in this drama is pretty much the norm in most Cdramas now a days. the leads in this drama are the same as the leads in 90% of Cdramas released in last year.
in my limited viewing experience of Cdramas and Kdramas, the love triangle is almost always the FL and multiple men around her. The converse almost never happens.
Once as viewer I can predict this at the start of the drama, you are not that interested since you know the basic journey of FL & ML.
When was the last drama any of us watched where towards the end you are not sure if ML will end up with FL or 2FL?
In fact I don't remember watching a drama where 2FL has romantic interactions with ML and is genuinely a nice person who you can root for. Most 2FL are manipulative and horrible women. There is no variety in 2FL, they are almost always bad.
So, it's not about fairness. It's all about variety, which sadly Cdrama are lacking.
I did not trash it.
For those who like this kind of storyline, this is a perfect drama.
To me though, it seemed repetitive.
Whether the 2ML is a red flag or not is not the point. This is just another variation of that formulae. The base of the story is centered around three people, the FL and the two men in her life. Everyone else is the supporting cast,
This premise & it's variations form the core of most Xianxia dramas.
Not that it's wrong but personally finding the base very repetitive and boring.
Watched a dozen episodes but it is apparent the 2ML is here to stay with FL until the last episode.
Offers nothing special than the other Xianxia dramas.
Same trope, 1 FL & multiple men surrounding her in a fantasy setting.
ML was absolutely unnecessary.
Apart from being a loyal doggy type romantic partner to the FL, he has nothing to do in the drama.
It should have been pure rvenge drama minus the ML.
When there is no variety and all you are getting is the same ML and FL, it gets predictable and boring.
Fight breaks sphere was fun mostly because there was little romance and it concentrated on what it needed to tell.
Even in that the ML remains, how should I put it, devoid of sexual attraction to the girls around him and he is a teenager in the drama.
Modern dramas, especially CEO Cdramas are hit and miss for me.
Some of them are appealing and some are not, same as period pieces and Wuxia.
pretty much tilting towards watching dramas with little romance. The recent ones with heavy romance started feeling cringy and corny & predictably boring.
Currently watching 'Listening Snow Tower', few episodes in and it's absolutely riveting.
ML are shown to never even look at them or even think about about them even for a second.
On contrary you have 2ML, 3ML and in some even 4th and the FL has nice rounded interactions with all of them.
Case in point - this very drama.
If this drama was remotely 'real life', per the time period, the ML would have been married to few women by the time he became a general. Since that would be disastrous to sell to audiences, I can understand why the dramas don't do it.
But showing that these successful and powerful men have completely sworn off women until the FL enters their life is ridiculous and frankly insulting viewers intelligence.
This is fiction, made up world by the writer.
Most Chinese writers seems to have a fixed pattern for their ML...a man who never dated, never interacted with women except FL, should never have liked other women than FL, should never touch other women, shows zero sexual interest in girls....the list goes on.
basically they want a man who only ever loved the FL in his life and never looked at other women.
The whole theory of 'growing up' by dating multiple people never applies to Cdrama ML, that seems to be unique to FL, who has multiple men close to her for her 'growth'.
I really don't remember watching a Cdrama in last 2 years where as viewer I genuinely felt the ML could end with 2FL. In fact I don't remember any drama in last couple of years where the ML is shown to be romancing or even looking at 2FL.
On contrary, every other drama has FL is shown crying over other men in front of ML or being in love with other men & the ML works hard to win FL over. If nothing, there has to be just men surrounding her.