What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
Let's be honest.
Kdramas want their ML to have eyes only for the ML, never waver. They also want the ML to do the chasing.
Read the comments below, some even said ML dating multiple women would make him a manwhore and they won't watch dramas with such ML. No such language or restrictions on FL.
The writers of these dramas go to any lengths to keep ML pure and only having eyes for FL.
btw, if ML was the one who dumped her, why is he not dating anyone? Or even have a woman on his radar? And if he dumped her, why is he chasing her now? Has anything changed except for the fact she came back NOT for ML but for her her situation?
Every reason will be made to justify why the ML is written so pure by the writers. Point is, ML's purity is the most important aspect. To achieve that anything and everything will be justified. Viewers know it's shit but it makes one feel better to see a ML so in love and dedicated.
It's pretty much, look at the ML, how much in love with FL he is, how dedicated he is, how much he is suffering in love for FL, he does not ever even eye another woman....And see how cool the FL is, she barely loves him, dates other men or has other men in her life,her job and career is priority, her family and friends are priority, unlike ML whose single priority ever will be FL....that's exactly what's expected and that's what the writers delivered.
I'm sorry but I'm NOT watching a k-drama where the ML is a manwhore (didn't watch SK's nevertheless for this reason).…
The porn sentence was a response to the other person asking me to watch certain type of harem drama...
I know it's not porn but geared to please certain sections. Hope that clear.
Virginity is NOT the issue. I wish we had more dramas where both the leads act their age and experience and that includes sexual.
Point was making ML as some one who has zero sexual interest. i.e, he does not react when he sees a nice looking girl. In contrast, the FL's in most dramas are shown enjoying looking at hot men.
You don't need to show ML as experienced or even dating someone. On other hand you can have FL as experienced and having dated a lot. But to remove the most basic quality of a man, i.e reacting to good looking girls - that is beyond acceptable.
I have challenged to show dramas where ML is shown to be physically attracted to women other than FL - very very few came back with 1-2 dramas in last 10 years. On other hand, there are over a dozen dramas in last 3 months where the FL is shown to be extremely physically attracted to men other than ML.
This apart from everything else I pointed out is the problem.
The historical patriarchal set up exists, not in western world and not in most democracies but mostly in third world countries. And in most democracies, the system ensures balance with enough leg ups for women, legally. Having said that, the answer to patriarchy is not misandry. It's like saying some men have hit women so we are going to justify women hitting men. It sounds cheap....really really cheap.
I'm sorry but I'm NOT watching a k-drama where the ML is a manwhore (didn't watch SK's nevertheless for this reason).…
People can be celibate, very true. people typically includes both men and women, not just men. And no one is talking about ML shagging women. ML can be celibate even if has a crush or finds a woman attractive. It does not take his virginity or virtue. That the ML does not even look at other woman, while the FL is shown exactly opposite is the issue.
We don't need dramas to be real but when you replace men with a gender that never existed on earth, then that is an issue.
Imagine if Kdrama industry start making dramas where the FL is shown to have her first period after meeting and falling in love with ML, in each and every drama. That she hits puberty only and only for ML and no other man - and then you get people saying it does not need to real, so, having that kind of FL is possible and so on and on..
lastly, Instead of asking me to stop watching and commenting, just ignore my comments and move on.
I'm sorry but I'm NOT watching a k-drama where the ML is a manwhore (didn't watch SK's nevertheless for this reason).…
well, do you see me begging you to feed me? So, just stick to discussing dramas.
If you still get the itch to analyze people, do so on the writers on these shit dramas who keep projecting rich virgin handsome CEO's as ML's.
There is a lot of analysis you can do on people who fantasize, write and produce dramas with that kind of shit. Also, do some self analysis on yourself. I just criticized a drama and you went all mental on me.
After watching some really really shit recent kdramas wanted to pop in here and say thank you to the writers and production team for this wonderful drama with incredible characters.
I'm sorry but I'm NOT watching a k-drama where the ML is a manwhore (didn't watch SK's nevertheless for this reason).…
no one calls a woman a ran through anymore. And yes, men do praise each other for body count.
These dramas show the FL dating multiple men without showing as 'ran through'. but the dramas show unnatural person as ML, we can't even that as a man though. Does not have basic qualities of a man.
Look, the dramas don't need to show ML shagging dozens of women or even having long dating history like many FL's in these dramas. The fact that most ML's don't even react to a sexy woman is the problem.
Just read through this forum. The amount women thirsting on hot men, ML and 2ML in these dramas are countless. The complete lack of response of ML to hot women is the most basic issue.
Unless one is thinking ML even feeling attracted to a woman is a no no & he shown be a virgin in body and mind as well...
I think it’s not so much that he’s a monk or virgin but more so he lost his humanity and therefore, lost interest…
why is sex animalistic when ML does it & it's ok when FL does it?
am I missing something here?
And he was turned into a demon and not a monk. And he does have the capacity and desire as we see with FL.
it's so funny that these writers come up with the most absurd reasons to make ML into a man who ever loved only the FL but the opposite where the FL only ever loved the Ml is rarely shown.
A 200 year old demon never had a relationship but a 25 year old FL has dating history. And it's a demon, not a monk or saint. what shit writing.
I think it’s not so much that he’s a monk or virgin but more so he lost his humanity and therefore, lost interest…
All that has nothing to do with him having sex. The only reason ML would not have sex is because he is impotent.
In fact, being a demon, without any emotions, it makes much more sense for someone like that to have a lot of sex without commitment with lot of women.
Unless he is impotent.
The drama does not show ML to be impotent, so, it does not make sense that a demon who lost humanity and can have lot of women, chose not to....logically it makes no sense. You can make a case of a hot rich CEO being a human choosing to wait for the woman of his dreams but a demon devoid of humanity has no such restrictions.
I'm sorry but I'm NOT watching a k-drama where the ML is a manwhore (didn't watch SK's nevertheless for this reason).…
Finally something that makes sense.
Btw, if the FL's were shown to be similar to ML, I would have agreed with you.
Since the FL's are not shown celibate or not eyed other man, the viewers should not expect the ML to be shown like that.
The word 'manwhore' you used, imagine it being used on FL's. Example would be FL in 'Welcome to Samdal', she dates a lot of guys and the ML only has ever dated the FL....would that make the FL in that drama a 'womanwhore'? Or since it is the FL, it is ok & whore applies only to the ML?
even irl there are hot as hell guys who aren't in relationships. and in this case, the ML is a demon fGs. in his…
The hot as hell guys that are not in relationships are probably having lot of sex.
Hot as hell guys living like monks in real life don't exist. May be 1 in million number or ones that have serious impotency.
Also, it's not that some Kdrama ML's are like this, it;s most of them, while the FL come in various shades. Even the FL that don't have other relationships probably liked some other guy before ML.
but the ML's in kdramas, most of them never look at any other girl than the FL. It's not just this drama, it's every Kdrama currently on air. All ML never looked at any other woman then FL. The FL's on other hand are not like that.
And regarding demons, they are fictional. There is a lot of literature where the demon is shown to be exactly opposite, shagging a lot. So, it is just upto writer to go which way.
writers have become lazy. This drama Ep1 was good. had hopes for it but they deceived us. They pulled us in promising something different but it was just same same shit.
If you are watching a Kdrama or Cdrama, you need to come to terms with the ML being certain way.
but the same repetitive ML in each and every drama. In fact, there are 3 romcoms running, all with the same kind of ML. You can only take so much BS at the same time. At least stagger the dramas a bit to give us respite from this. What exactly is the point of having 3 kdrama romcoms running at the same time with same type of ML anyway?
Business proposal is new Kdramas but that ML is the staple Cdrama ML for years now.
You are right though, the only Kdramas I complete now a days are the non-romance ones. They shine. Romance Kdramas, most I barely make it half way and the ones I complete, the second half is mostly on FF button.
You would think a demon with ambiguous morals would have shagged some women but our boy is pure as a monk living in solitude in mountains. but the ML has not even given any woman a look for 200+ years.
The writers with each episode insert every crappy kdrama trope with a straight face and turned the drama into cringe-fest.
All current running Kdramas ML's are so cringy. All of them are......
What option does he have? She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.
The FL on other hand loves him as much as as she loves 6 other guys and counting.
Writers have succeeded in writing the most pathetic ML is Kdrama history, close competitor is the similar pathetic ML in Strangers Again. Pure simpy men for the win.
Even after all that, it is again the ML chasing the FL, who is too cool to chase the ML. Well, she knows ML is a colossal loser who does not have another woman on radar and has no option than her. Why would she chase a man who is already in the bag? All she has to do snap her finger and he will run to her wagging his tail.
You are consistent with your statements and yes its kinda cringe here both leads are single and virgin, especially…
Your post is very informative but You lost my main point.
My point is not about how the ML or FL has no experience. I was talking about how only the ML in each and every episode was confirmed by dozens to be pure and with no experience. The drama does not do this to the FL.
Kdramas want their ML to have eyes only for the ML, never waver.
They also want the ML to do the chasing.
Read the comments below, some even said ML dating multiple women would make him a manwhore and they won't watch dramas with such ML. No such language or restrictions on FL.
The writers of these dramas go to any lengths to keep ML pure and only having eyes for FL.
btw, if ML was the one who dumped her, why is he not dating anyone? Or even have a woman on his radar?
And if he dumped her, why is he chasing her now? Has anything changed except for the fact she came back NOT for ML but for her her situation?
Every reason will be made to justify why the ML is written so pure by the writers.
Point is, ML's purity is the most important aspect. To achieve that anything and everything will be justified. Viewers know it's shit but it makes one feel better to see a ML so in love and dedicated.
It's pretty much, look at the ML, how much in love with FL he is, how dedicated he is, how much he is suffering in love for FL, he does not ever even eye another woman....And see how cool the FL is, she barely loves him, dates other men or has other men in her life,her job and career is priority, her family and friends are priority, unlike ML whose single priority ever will be FL....that's exactly what's expected and that's what the writers delivered.
I know it's not porn but geared to please certain sections.
Hope that clear.
Virginity is NOT the issue.
I wish we had more dramas where both the leads act their age and experience and that includes sexual.
Point was making ML as some one who has zero sexual interest. i.e, he does not react when he sees a nice looking girl.
In contrast, the FL's in most dramas are shown enjoying looking at hot men.
You don't need to show ML as experienced or even dating someone. On other hand you can have FL as experienced and having dated a lot.
But to remove the most basic quality of a man, i.e reacting to good looking girls - that is beyond acceptable.
I have challenged to show dramas where ML is shown to be physically attracted to women other than FL - very very few came back with 1-2 dramas in last 10 years.
On other hand, there are over a dozen dramas in last 3 months where the FL is shown to be extremely physically attracted to men other than ML.
This apart from everything else I pointed out is the problem.
The historical patriarchal set up exists, not in western world and not in most democracies but mostly in third world countries. And in most democracies, the system ensures balance with enough leg ups for women, legally.
Having said that, the answer to patriarchy is not misandry.
It's like saying some men have hit women so we are going to justify women hitting men. It sounds cheap....really really cheap.
people typically includes both men and women, not just men.
And no one is talking about ML shagging women. ML can be celibate even if has a crush or finds a woman attractive. It does not take his virginity or virtue.
That the ML does not even look at other woman, while the FL is shown exactly opposite is the issue.
We don't need dramas to be real
but when you replace men with a gender that never existed on earth, then that is an issue.
Imagine if Kdrama industry start making dramas where the FL is shown to have her first period after meeting and falling in love with ML, in each and every drama. That she hits puberty only and only for ML and no other man - and then you get people saying it does not need to real, so, having that kind of FL is possible and so on and on..
lastly, Instead of asking me to stop watching and commenting,
just ignore my comments and move on.
So, just stick to discussing dramas.
If you still get the itch to analyze people, do so on the writers on these shit dramas who keep projecting rich virgin handsome CEO's as ML's.
There is a lot of analysis you can do on people who fantasize, write and produce dramas with that kind of shit.
Also, do some self analysis on yourself. I just criticized a drama and you went all mental on me.
Thank you
Don't watch the drama if you liked the webtoon.
FL was a darling in the webtoon,
in the drama, she is a Mary Sue
Come for their chemistry,
forget logic, story and everything and it will be enjoyable.
So, why is it ok for FL and not for ML?
If these dramas are fan service to women, they should classify themselves as porn for women with harem and hot virgin demons and CEO's...
Anyway, I will continue to trash these kinds of shit dramas.
Guess people will just have to put up with my posts here..
And yes, men do praise each other for body count.
These dramas show the FL dating multiple men without showing as 'ran through'.
but the dramas show unnatural person as ML, we can't even that as a man though. Does not have basic qualities of a man.
Look, the dramas don't need to show ML shagging dozens of women or even having long dating history like many FL's in these dramas.
The fact that most ML's don't even react to a sexy woman is the problem.
Just read through this forum.
The amount women thirsting on hot men, ML and 2ML in these dramas are countless.
The complete lack of response of ML to hot women is the most basic issue.
Unless one is thinking ML even feeling attracted to a woman is a no no & he shown be a virgin in body and mind as well...
am I missing something here?
And he was turned into a demon and not a monk.
And he does have the capacity and desire as we see with FL.
it's so funny that these writers come up with the most absurd reasons to make ML into a man who ever loved only the FL but the opposite where the FL only ever loved the Ml is rarely shown.
A 200 year old demon never had a relationship but a 25 year old FL has dating history.
And it's a demon, not a monk or saint.
what shit writing.
The only reason ML would not have sex is because he is impotent.
In fact, being a demon, without any emotions, it makes much more sense for someone like that to have a lot of sex without commitment with lot of women.
Unless he is impotent.
The drama does not show ML to be impotent, so, it does not make sense that a demon who lost humanity and can have lot of women, chose not to....logically it makes no sense.
You can make a case of a hot rich CEO being a human choosing to wait for the woman of his dreams but a demon devoid of humanity has no such restrictions.
It's like animal, they get horny, they have sex.
Btw, if the FL's were shown to be similar to ML, I would have agreed with you.
Since the FL's are not shown celibate or not eyed other man, the viewers should not expect the ML to be shown like that.
The word 'manwhore' you used, imagine it being used on FL's. Example would be FL in 'Welcome to Samdal', she dates a lot of guys and the ML only has ever dated the FL....would that make the FL in that drama a 'womanwhore'? Or since it is the FL, it is ok & whore applies only to the ML?
Hot as hell guys living like monks in real life don't exist.
May be 1 in million number or ones that have serious impotency.
Also, it's not that some Kdrama ML's are like this, it;s most of them, while the FL come in various shades.
Even the FL that don't have other relationships probably liked some other guy before ML.
but the ML's in kdramas, most of them never look at any other girl than the FL. It's not just this drama, it's every Kdrama currently on air. All ML never looked at any other woman then FL.
The FL's on other hand are not like that.
And regarding demons, they are fictional.
There is a lot of literature where the demon is shown to be exactly opposite, shagging a lot.
So, it is just upto writer to go which way.
writers have become lazy.
This drama Ep1 was good. had hopes for it but they deceived us.
They pulled us in promising something different but it was just same same shit.
If you are watching a Kdrama or Cdrama, you need to come to terms with the ML being certain way.
but the same repetitive ML in each and every drama. In fact, there are 3 romcoms running, all with the same kind of ML.
You can only take so much BS at the same time.
At least stagger the dramas a bit to give us respite from this. What exactly is the point of having 3 kdrama romcoms running at the same time with same type of ML anyway?
Business proposal is new Kdramas but that ML is the staple Cdrama ML for years now.
the only Kdramas I complete now a days are the non-romance ones. They shine.
Romance Kdramas, most I barely make it half way and the ones I complete, the second half is mostly on FF button.
Bad boy - check
hot as hell - check
no prior relationships - check
It's like the wet dream of a lot of viewers.
You would think a demon with ambiguous morals would have shagged some women but our boy is pure as a monk living in solitude in mountains.
but the ML has not even given any woman a look for 200+ years.
The writers with each episode insert every crappy kdrama trope with a straight face and turned the drama into cringe-fest.
All current running Kdramas ML's are so cringy. All of them are......
She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.
The FL on other hand loves him as much as as she loves 6 other guys and counting.
Writers have succeeded in writing the most pathetic ML is Kdrama history, close competitor is the similar pathetic ML in Strangers Again.
Pure simpy men for the win.
Even after all that, it is again the ML chasing the FL, who is too cool to chase the ML. Well, she knows ML is a colossal loser who does not have another woman on radar and has no option than her. Why would she chase a man who is already in the bag? All she has to do snap her finger and he will run to her wagging his tail.
My point is not about how the ML or FL has no experience.
I was talking about how only the ML in each and every episode was confirmed by dozens to be pure and with no experience.
The drama does not do this to the FL.