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Replying to dooh Dec 17, 2023
I always call out these kinds of MLs in K-C dramas. For me personally, they are unrealistic and absolutely not…
I like to see variety,

Don't really mind these ML's now and then in romcoms where the only aim is to have a drama full of fluff. Those dramas can be cleanser of your mind, only if these dramas are rare, like 1 or 2 in a year.

but damn, the ML's in each and every Cdrama and Kdramas have turned into impotent virgin monks.

The writers should seriously start giving us some variety.
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Replying to Ikkyvicky Dec 17, 2023
Impotent loser? who? where? If you asked any sane woman if they would date the ML every one of them would say…
Now I understand why these writers are making these ML's as simpy impotent losers.

It all makes sense.

Btw, no one is talking about the ML needing to be rude or needing to take revenge or do something nasty to anyone.

ML is not figuring out his life, he is basically doing nothing for 8 years while the FL was doing very well in her career and multiple relationships.
He was just waiting like a simp.

And if you prefer a ML who is deeply in love and waiting on the FL forever and ever and ever, why is it that in these dramas, it is always ML doing the waiting?
Sorry, it's not one or two things about the 'male lead' that is wrong, it's everything.
if you really think a man would not even look at another woman for 8 years, no matter how deeply in love he was with another woman...it's so fake.
And why would ML having his relationships with other women make him less worthy for FL?

is FL less worthy for ML and does not deserve him because she dated half a dozen guys?

What a regressive thinking!

There are only two kinds of men in the world, domesticated and others.
The ones domesticated don't shag other woman because they love the woman they are with, NOT because they are not attracted to other women. The non-domesticated ones are always thinking about sex. If anyone says otherwise, they are just talking shit.

It's so cringe that people are even defending the writers writing such fake male lead.
he was just doing nothing for 8 years, not even a women in his sight. even typing this shit is making me cringe...and people actually want to say, it's realistic and there are men like that. No there are not. may be in fantasies of writers who want these kinds of pure virgin men while they are themselves shagging multiple men.

I guess you would not have liked the drama if it was the FL waiting, deeply in love with ML, not even glancing at another man, while the ML was dating half a dozen other women. Oh, he would be still be in love with the FL, he is just trying to move on, sadly shagging other women to get over FL.
Let me know how that storyline sounds? And why no Kdrama was evre made with this story line?
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Replying to Lady_Kexing Dec 17, 2023
So a man is a man just if he’s a manly alpha big boy?I’m a woman and I actually like those colossal impotent…
I said man, if I wanted to say 'alpha big boy', I would have said so.

an alpha big boy, a nerd, a sportsman, a physically handicapped man, a man with mental issues etc etc all have very basic biological qualities, just like all women have.

imagine if someone starts making kdramas where most FL's have their first period after meeting and falling in love with ML. Until then, no matter their age, they never have a period, until the ML comes. And more importantly, if thatML breaks up with her life, the FL stops having periods until that same ML comes back into her life.
it would very weird if some one starts making a whole lot of dramas with a FL like that.
Pretty sure, i would not call them as woman, if that ever happens.
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Replying to IM YourOnlyOne Dec 17, 2023
ML is not used to refer to being "manly". You are confusing two totally different things.ML is a standard term…
You got a point.

we should keep pretending that the Male leads are actually men, when they clearly aren't.
Or these writers can do a Gender reveal of their male leads. May be it's a completely new gender....it;s the fashion now a days anyway to invent genders.
These drama writers may be on to something..
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Replying to Eleison Dec 17, 2023
Interesting comment. I personally struggle with using the word 'manly,' myself, as it seems a slippery word that…
Go to any school or university anywhere in the world.
Just observe the boys and men there for 15 mins, you will get the answer.

Also, you know exactly what I mean, anyway. 😏
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Replying to mooc Dec 17, 2023
What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
My demon - it's pretty much implied FL dated. In first 10 mins of first episode she asks ML if he was some she dated before. Also, she has a 2ML who is like her shadow, he is everywhere.
The male lead never even had a female dog in his house for 200+ years

TSOPMC - yes, FL does not, neither does the ML. In fact, the ML like almost all other ML's does not even a have another woman with in 100 miles

My man is Cupid - The ML only shows interest, they don't date or anything. Then for god knows how many centuries the ML again does not even another woman with in 100 miles. The FL on other hand had numerous exes, we can ho into symantics but the fact is it's only the FL who has multiple relationships

Welcome to Samdal - This is one garbage romance at a new level. The ML has only ever loved the FL. no other woman 100 miles radius.
The FL dated half a dozen men & now there is a love triangle with ML and his friend trying to woo FL...It's pretty much raining virgin men for the FL in this drama.

Destined with you - FL pretty much has an orgasm when sees 2ML. You can literally count a dozen orgasms she has on screen when 2ML is near her. the ML is a sus, virgin cold CEO who seems to have serious impotency, rather than the terminal illness he is supposed to have.

What is the common denominator in all these dramas?
The ML never ever dates any woman. There is not a single other woman 100 miles radius og ML.
The FL comes in many varieties, some like ML who have never dated, may have dated multiple men. Many show interest in multiple men, some have shagged multiple men. but all of them have multiple men in their life.

While the ML is a raging virgin and the FL is only the woman ever in his life,
the FL comes in different variety.

I bet you can't name a drama where the FL only ever loved the ML and waiting for him for decades while the ML dates and shags multiple women and then has a love triangle with FL and her sister/bestie
This is basically 'welcome to Samdal' with gender swapped. Name one kdrama like this in last 5 years.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing when facts stare in our face.
While there would an odd ML in kdrama that is written differntly, 9 out of 10 kdrama pretty much have ML who are pure, virgin and only ever loved and dated the FL...
in 9 out of 10 kdramas, the FL has other men, if not dating, she would at least be sexually attracted to 2ML or other men before settling with ML.
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Replying to Eleison Dec 17, 2023
Interesting comment. I personally struggle with using the word 'manly,' myself, as it seems a slippery word that…
not masculine but attributes that are most basic to man, at biological level.

except for the way they dress, there is nothing that tells you that the person on screen is a man.
He is a completely new gender invented for kdrama and Cdrama purposes.
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On Welcome to Samdal-ri Dec 16, 2023
We need to stop using the term 'male lead',
there literally is nothing manly about what ever we are seeing on screen.

jeesus, exactly why would any girl give such a colossal impotent loser even a look?
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
usually I give around 8 episodes for any romance Kdrama or Cdrama before deciding on a drop or use FF button.

most fun part of watching these garbage dramas, is poking fun of the garbage here.
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
Title Got a Crush on You Spoiler
It's not just this drama,Wonderland of loveI may love youThey just finished and the ML's in those dramas are door…
i used to like these dramas a lot couple of years back, even the romance felt fresh and new.

now, the romance in these dramas is predictable and revolting.
The best ones are the ones with no romance now a days - at least that's my taste.

btw, definitely not single 🤣
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
Title Got a Crush on You Spoiler
It's not just this drama,Wonderland of loveI may love youThey just finished and the ML's in those dramas are door…
i did like the drama, minus the romance.

The ML was written very good, filial to a fault, loved his family as expected, except when it came to FL and his love, then he became sus.
Sorry but the way writers made the ML put up with her rants for a while episode over another man was garbage. No man/woman in real life would entertain that. Imagine if it was Ml abusing the FL over another woman for a while episode, there would be riots.

Oh and the episode towards the end where the writer for the whole episode made married FL and the 2ML rollover each other in hay was also fan service,

romance was the usual Cdrama crap, too many men around the FL and the ML is a young master who never looked at another woman.

I rated it 7.5, if there was zero romance, i would have rated it a 9.
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
exactly, the writers will create every possible scenario to keep the ML from dating anyone or having attraction for any other woman than FL.

That's what I am getting at.

honestly, if one is terminally ill, handsome and rich, work is the last thing that would be on mind..I mean, if one is dying, why would work be even a preference?

Like I stated, every drama, the writers go out of their way to keep ML pure and virgin for the FL..

Also, even if were to agree with all you posted, why would the ML not even show sexual attraction to hot girls?
Does being terminally ill and busy at work make a man not have any sexual feelings for woman? Do explain this unheard of biological phenomenon.

Again, we are all discussing the reasons why ML is pure, has no sexual interest woman etc etc...it's irrelevant.
What is relevant is that the writers ensuring that the ML is written in this specific way. The writers can chose to make the ML date and have sexual feelings for multiple women, like they show with FL's but chose not to.
That is what I am pointing at and that is why I am calling these dramas as garbage Kdramas.
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
which some dramas?
Even the dramas we just discussed, it's just the FL who has multiple relationships and attracted to multiple men.

it's pretty much one way street now a days.

Even in My demon, who is the other girl in ML's life? There is none, unless we count the girl who has a crush on ML and the ML does not let her 100 yards near him.
On other hand, the 2ML is everywhere in FL's life. In her bed room, in her office, in her car. Only place he is not in is the toilet.

Imagine the logic behind a 25 year old girl having dated and having close male friends who freely enter her bedroom, while a 200 year old man is shown to have never eyed any woman or developed any close friendship with any woman.

I agree that few years back it was not like this. Kdrama romances got really bad in last couple of years.
Older dramas, I agree there was more variety to the ML...
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
you know what people with terminal illness, especially young ones do? They go and do all sorts of things.

Writers find all sorts of weird reasons to keep ML pure.

I mean, imagine being terminally ill and rich. You would be fulfilling every fantasy of yours before kicking the bucket.

Point is - the same writers who show FL sexually attracted to multiple men, dating multiple men and surrounded by multiple men, keep ML as pure as possible by creating scenarios that make no sense.

jeesus, terminally ill rich kid would nevr behave like the ML in destined with you..he would out there enjoying his life and shagging as many hot girls as possible before dying.
Also, what has being terminally ill got to do with him being attracted to beautiful women? The FL is shown attracted to hot men in the same drama...even with her traumatic background and all.

101 rule of Kdrama - No trauma and nothing will affact FL sexuality and her dating history. Even farting near the ML will send him into a trauma that will always affect his sexuality directly resulting in him unable to date any woman.
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
MyDemon: FL sexual attraction to ML was shown explicitly, she literally has a monologue detailing her sexual attraction & her dating other guys implied, in first 15 mins of the first episode. The ML is a 200+ year old COLD DEMON with no dating history and absolutely zero sexual attraction, until he 'falls in love'. Also, FL is surrounded by multiple men.

ADTBAD: The FL has multiple relationships, shown physically attracted to multiple guys. ML, is a COLD MAN who shows zero sexual attraction to any other girl in his life, no dating history. FL is his first and last

TSOPM: FL loves her husband but refuse to be a doormat. She puts her foot down when ML tries to take advantage. ML again is a COLD CEO with zero sexual attraction to any other woman

My man is Cupid: FL has multiple relationships and is shown attracted to multiple guys. ML was interested but never shows any sort of sexual attraction to the girl, chek the drama again, the writers never show ML showing any sort of sexual attraction for other girl. Whether god has beef or what ever reason, he has zero relationship experience.

Welcome to Samdal: FL has multiple relationships. ML only ever interested in FL

Destined with you: FL shown attracted to multiple men. ML only ever shown interested in FL.

Live your own life : 2 virgin CEO brothers in live with FL. She gets kissed by both. ML is almost a door mat in this one. 2-3 episodes more and his transformation into doormat will be complete.

Now, lets revise ->
FL comes in variety. Some have multiple relationships, some show attraction to multiple men, some have only ML and always surrounded by multiple hot men.
ML is a COLD ceo/demon/man who has only dated/loved FL. Never shows any physical attraction to any other woman. Does not even have a female dog in his life.
in all 6 dramas, we get different kinds of FL...with varying dating, attraction history with men.
The ML....only ever loved FL and only relationship with FL. And strangely not one of these dramas show any sexual attraction from ML towards any woman.
For anyone who has ever known man, you would know how fake and weird seeing men after men in these dramas showing zero sexual interest in women,

If you still don't see a pattern here, why not analyze dramas in last 1 year.
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Replying to Baleching Dec 16, 2023
Thays must ..otherwise how will they complete 26 episodes
Kdrama romances have gone to dogs as well.
It's raining virgin CEO's there as well.

There are exceptions and you get some nice Kdramas with nice romance.

but Cdramas, yuck, I barely make it through half way or any romance genre, They are so cringy.
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
Let me say this once and for the last time. The FL's are just fine. If you think I have objections to FL dating or having sex, let me stop you right there. I am perfectly fine with FL's like that.

My issue is how pathetic and fake the ML's are.
the FL's just fine with lot of variations and different characteristics.

The ML's are utter garbage.

None of the dramas mentioned have ML explicitly showing sexual attraction to other woman.
As example, in 'behind your touch' & 'Destined with you', the FL's practically have orgasms when look at the 2ML. You must have definitely watched those dramas and know exactly what I am describing. Now show a drama where a ML is shown having similar reaction seeing a woman other than FL?

Let me give a list of kdramas and Cdramas running or just finished.

My demom
Welcome to Samdal
A good day to be a dog
The Story of Park's marriage contract
Destined with you
My man is cupid
Live your own life
Got a crush on you
I may love you
wonderland of love

These are dramas running or just finished.
Go and check the ML's in each and every one of these dramas.
Now check the Fl's in the same dramas.

Again, it's not a bad take on FL's.
They are written just fine, with a lot of variety.

The ML's are fake, copies of every other romance drama being made.
The Virgin wimpy simp for the win in every drama.
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Replying to SterBeN Dec 16, 2023
Now i know why y'all hate the plot. I'm currently watching episode 12 and the character of the male lead sucks.…
It's not just this drama,

Wonderland of love
I may love you

They just finished and the ML's in those dramas are door mats as well.
In one, the FL abuses ML for a whole episode about her male friend. The drama also spends a whole episode where the FL and her male friend are shown rolling around.
In another, the ML is so pathetic that for 10 episodes he is saying sorry to FL for god knows what..

These romance genre has gone to dogs, literally.
They should just announce it as porn for women and stop this facade.
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On Got a Crush on You Dec 16, 2023
LMAO,

This drama is absolute garbage.

For 10 episodes all the drama cared about was how virgin and pure the ML.
He has never looked at any girl, let alone date.

Not only does the FL has an ex but the ex is shoved in the face of ML.

And there still are people defending these kind of trash Kdramas and Cdramas.

Hot Virgin ML's for the win ...
Even writing this post was cringe.
have no idea how kdrama and cdrama writers write this garbage ML with a straight face.

No problem with Fl, at her age and with her looks, it would be strange if she did not have few relationships.

The ML is absolute wimpy simp, he is much worse than a simp.
he is a basically a tissue paper the Fl uses to wipe her self and flush down the toilet.

worse, this is basically every romance Cdrama and most romance Kdramas.
the ML's are disgusting...there literally is nothing manly about any of these leads.
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Replying to mooc Dec 16, 2023
What option does he have?She is the only woman he has loved ever since he was a sperm.The FL on other hand loves…
I don't hate the trope, I am just tired of it being the only trope in Kdramas.

No matter how good the story is, if the ML comes across as massive fake, the drama is already in the shitter.

Let's be frank, all romance kdramas and cdramas are basically harem for FL with multiple good looking virgin men simping for her.
The ML looks so horrible and bad, I mean, looking the guy, it's hard to make out whether he is even a man.

Why not take my challenge and show me a ML in last 2 years of romance Kdramas where he was shown sexually attracted to another woman than FL. I am not talking about dating or shagging another woman. Just ML looking at a hot girl and thinking how sexy she is...show me one drama.

Now, there are a dozen Kdramas this year alone where the FL is shown sexually attracted to other men, shown crying and weeping for other men, shown dating multiple men, a drama even has FL shagging scores of men..

If one can't point to a drama where on screen we see ML sexually attracted to a single woman, then I don't need to tell anyone what's wrong with that kind of a man.
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