Daisuke

In my view bromance is different than close friendships between groups of people or people within groups, bromance is about intense (more than just close) special friendship between two characters just like straight romance but same sex, verging on p/ship, not full on sexual relationship but certainly conscious or unconscious physical exchanges/touching/feeling etc Let's not confuse the terms to inflate lists mainly consisting of just close friendships - there are relatively few dramas/movies involving real bromance

charming, yokatta

intermittently amusing but basically flawed in treating the idea of same sex love as though it's somehow something you've got to show was never really intended because, of course, no normal person would REALLY be that way

Is School 2013? it's certainly intense bromance hinting at something more

yes, gutted.

Unexpectedly - as I usually like to keep bands' interest separate from drama - I loved this drama. The series had enough twists and turns to keep you gripped, a real shocker of a story twist almost from the off. Some wildly attractive bohemian-type "eye candy" in every meaning of the term, especially ji hjuk (Sung Joon) for me :) It veered off the school angle half way through. I thought it might be my antidote to School 2013 withdrawal symptoms, but in that sense it turned out not to be. But it certainly took your mind off it. Certainly it's about the impact of girls and romance clashing with ambition and celebrity when emotions are still haywire as adolescents, but surely even more about the closeness of the relationships binding a boy band together. I never like reaching the end of a series, there's got to be development if it's a good drama but so often the wrap up is too neat and verging on cheesy and this did not altogether escape that. It's more about giving the fans a "feel good" ending. But overall I loved this series, I kept watching it without any breaks, which is unusual for me. It also had two great songs, of which I especially liked Wake Up. Knowing the outcome, I'm not sure it's one I'd watch again, but that's probably true of most.

thx for the heads up - it's just that my definition of bromance is intense intimacy between two boys/men without full on sex complications - there's a lot of vague definition of bromance which is really just close friendship which imho is different - it'd be an interesting topic for general discussion

thanks I will do that, I almost gave up on Prison Notebook until a kind reviewer urged me to stick with it, so I've learnt my lesson!

But look so different in Addicted??

Not great on sophistication, very direct and simple, it packs a lot into its 25 minute episodes, yet very endearing Chinese gay series. Good looking lead actors. Seems to be a groundbreaking drama for mainland China. Love the theme music 10/10, 9/10 overall.

that's what pushy parents are like

secret garden - isn't joo won cute? also lee jong suk when you can actually spot him, weird how after finding this total rubbish set against nice scenery it somehow reeled me in, bizarre characters do, otherwise the attraction of this drama remains very secret indeed

if you want a nice restful school where you can sleep as much as you can, this is the place for you. This dorama has few redeeming features…….

strange, my experience was almost exactly the same, got to like it from ep4/5 on after initially finding it faintly ludicrous

why are so many school dramas about psychos hurting everybody?

I suppose the first episode is effective at what it's trying to do but its relentless bullying is a real bummer. Girl bullies are even nastier than boys. The storyline summary also sounds ludicrous. Not feeling inclined to keep watching. Acting effective/subject stinks. 5/10.

I agree with Kay and Mark, what's the big deal?

Just started this and I'm completely bewildered about what's going on - I get the flashbacks but not how he ended up with grandpa…and the family connections between the characters seem ludicrous - and yes, I do get the attempt to teach us what's going on with the Kevin Bacon stuff in the quiz show - will continue to watch to see if anything comes out of the mess of episode 1

Episode 1 - lovely intro countryside and "Indian Summer", then (thinks) is this meant to be surreal or just a mess of bad acting? As to "the beauty and body" of Gil Ra Im, is the above summary for real? it's extremely well hidden. But the production values are good…….As at ep.2 is this rather ridiculous - the idea that not-bad looking Hyun Bin (especially as s super rich CEO) would fall for plain Jane penniless Ha Ji Won defies credulity - plus I don't like the snide reference about "gays". Ep 3 why am I still watching this? the fashion? interior design? Oska? - oh, I forgot Lee Jong Suk……..are you there?? Ep 5 strangely magnetising, beginning to get into this but mainly for the side stories and bizarre characters of Kim Joo Won and OSKA, I like bizarre characters, but regrettably still not Gil Ra Im. ep 7 - well with a mother like that I now understand why he became so twisted, whew. This drama lit up with the gender bending, I'm not sure if Hyun Bin deliberately meant his transformation to be so camp, but either way it's quite funny. I like Hyun Bin here, he has a difficult character to portray but he in particular has managed to keep me watching. I would like to watch more by him but the dramas covered here don't sound appealing. The soundtrack of this drama is also really good. Ep. 13 Gil Ra Im's evening dress is -ahem- a little "de trop". I do love that house, the architecture and interior design are stunning [that library! but where did he get the time to read all those books?) Ep17/18 really an unexpected twist (not entirely liked by me) but SG now passes my excellence test of putting it on hold because I don't want it to finish. Having now finished the series I think it should have ended with Episode 19 and left the rest to our imaginings. What was a stylish, classy and intriguing series raising some real questions about identity and the penetration into this world of other dimensions was spoilt by - there's a good English word - sentimentality of a common romantic drama. Better to stop when it was still ahead. Maybe this stuff appeals to many people, but I feel it was a major error of judgment by the writer/producer. This is not to take away from all the good things in the series. I plan to re-watch as I suspect I missed many details the first time around. But I shall not be watching the last episode.

I just watched episode 1 of High Kick and it's a real laugh - you'll also see lee jong suk