BRO, in most parts of the world, you can marry your cousin. You can marry your cousins in Middle East, South Asia…
Its a slippery slope when you start deciding what to ban and censor because it can be used against your interests.
Usually its the authorities or those in power who decide what can be viewed and what is acceptable and what message is sent out. Even in our so called democracies. Sometimes its those with the loudest voices, but remember louder voices can also take away your rights. Because your rights have been built on a weak foundation.
I don't like harmful representation of woman in porn or media - but its unrealistic to ban or censor it as its not going to be that effective. I still think the best way is good education and teaching critical thinking. (and proper legal accountability - laws to protect)
Also a lot of people have different fantasies/fetishes and they are not doing harm. Are you going to dictate to woman what they should fantasise about? Most woman are really very able to differentiate between fantasy and reality and they dont need to be patronised with other peoples morality. So if something is not doing harm why interfere. Rather educate.
You brought up pedophilia (involves bodily harm, violence, rape, abuse, minors etc) but that is a totally different topic to censorship.
BRO, in most parts of the world, you can marry your cousin. You can marry your cousins in Middle East, South Asia…
I want to be entertained by media and not be preached too. I see drama and fiction as fantasy and escapism.
And I do agree that fiction is used to impact real life and that is problematic. Who decides what agenda is acceptable? Who decides on the right message. Who decides on what can be heard and seen. I dont like censorship and controlling what writers and creators should do eg China, South Africa during apartheid and even today in the UK our govt is moving into fascist territory wanting to control what we see and how we think.
Maybe people need to be educated about the relevant issues and especially critical thinking. (Our education system is lacking i think intentionally.) And how to separate fantasy with reality.
BRO, in most parts of the world, you can marry your cousin. You can marry your cousins in Middle East, South Asia…
You have made good points and my limited imagination did not go there. If its father and adopted daughter (or mother adopted step son ) 1. the imbalance of power between the two 2. the relationship changing from parent /child to becoming lovers 3. age gap issue (again power dynamics) The law would get involved in the above situations.
Do you know incest laws apply only to blood relatives, not to individuals connected through marriage. (I just looked it up) So if you were dating someone and your parents got married then it would not fall under incest laws. (according to my understanding of UK law your marriage would be valid.). Its a bit more complex and problematic if you are siblings due to legal adoption. So its legal and acceptable if you are stepchildren but problematic (could be legal) if you are adopted. That is why I dont respect the law. Its a technicality that makes relationships between stepchildren acceptable but adopted children not acceptable. (even if you are raised together)
Im not as judgmental about the actions of fictional characters - the toxic psychopaths are more interesting. Obviously in real life different criteria is used. But I still believe that if people are not harming anyone then live and let live.
Hey, i was planning on not watching this at the time of its release bc of its dark and serious tone. But now im…
it was not a happy ending and they did not end up together. The ending showed the trauma and was realistic - after the rape by the senior.
It was sad because they had a wonderful friendship / relationship in the beginning. Peoples started gossiping and this ruined the relationship and led to extreme actions by Junior (to walk away) and Senior (desperate to hold on to Junior). I felt sorry for both parties (Im not defending the action of the rapist at all).
The way that the rape was resolved was strange - it was a families coming to an agreement rather then going to police and legal system.
haven't watched it. The ratings suck - i mean don't trust ratings by mainly an emotionally immature mainly female audience withy a fluffy mindset that have parasosocial relationships and fetishizes gay men
People vote if they approve or disapprove of the contents , also for or against cp, some even downvote vote low if its not Thai (nationalistic and threatened if sway a Chinese bl is doing well).
What I watched was good but I dropped it after e3. Sometimes there is nothing wrong with the series - its just me. Wasnt in the mood to watch another typical J Bl drama.
BRO, in most parts of the world, you can marry your cousin. You can marry your cousins in Middle East, South Asia…
Exactly. Its not incest if its incest just by law. It is the blood related connection that matters. Im no biology expert but what is acceptable or safe can be decided by science.
How boring with the comments 😴 apparently people are being forced to watch this. I wonder how that works?
lol . They are very motivated to be our moral compass. They even torture themselves into watching dark themed dramas so that they can tell the rest of us what not to watch.
These poor souls subject themselves to watching the more interesting, I mean sinful dramas so that we wont have to, after being informed that dramas contain some evil deeds.
I watched this about 8 months ago and forgot to add it as "complete" I remember enjoying it but maybe that is because bls were still new to me. I dont how i would rate it now if I watched it again.
I dropped this. The characters are annoying and they overact. I didnt find it cute - just boring.
Im not impressed when females (maybe because im a female) try to act cute by overdoing facial expressions. I like cute in women, but it should come naturally and not with exaggerated expressions and slapstick actions
I also felt it was too long. It would have been less boring with a few episodes.
i didnt see him as a red flag, rather as someone not in touch with their emotions with little understanding of…
I think that Jun gave in because he actually liked Sorn. He always did.
I didnt get the impression that he would mistreat Jun going forward or that Sorn would neglect Juns feelings. Yes Sorn is forceful as that is his nature, but I dont think his intention is to harm or undermine Jun.
I understand where you are coming from but I guess im more forgiving.
Usually its the authorities or those in power who decide what can be viewed and what is acceptable and what message is sent out. Even in our so called democracies. Sometimes its those with the loudest voices, but remember louder voices can also take away your rights. Because your rights have been built on a weak foundation.
I don't like harmful representation of woman in porn or media - but its unrealistic to ban or censor it as its not going to be that effective.
I still think the best way is good education and teaching critical thinking. (and proper legal accountability - laws to protect)
Also a lot of people have different fantasies/fetishes and they are not doing harm. Are you going to dictate to woman what they should fantasise about? Most woman are really very able to differentiate between fantasy and reality and they dont need to be patronised with other peoples morality. So if something is not doing harm why interfere. Rather educate.
You brought up pedophilia (involves bodily harm, violence, rape, abuse, minors etc) but that is a totally different topic to censorship.
And I do agree that fiction is used to impact real life and that is problematic. Who decides what agenda is acceptable? Who decides on the right message. Who decides on what can be heard and seen. I dont like censorship and controlling what writers and creators should do eg China, South Africa during apartheid and even today in the UK our govt is moving into fascist territory wanting to control what we see and how we think.
Maybe people need to be educated about the relevant issues and especially critical thinking. (Our education system is lacking i think intentionally.) And how to separate fantasy with reality.
If its father and adopted daughter (or mother adopted step son )
1. the imbalance of power between the two
2. the relationship changing from parent /child to becoming lovers
3. age gap issue (again power dynamics)
The law would get involved in the above situations.
Do you know incest laws apply only to blood relatives, not to individuals connected through marriage. (I just looked it up) So if you were dating someone and your parents got married then it would not fall under incest laws. (according to my understanding of UK law your marriage would be valid.). Its a bit more complex and problematic if you are siblings due to legal adoption. So its legal and acceptable if you are stepchildren but problematic (could be legal) if you are adopted. That is why I dont respect the law. Its a technicality that makes relationships between stepchildren acceptable but adopted children not acceptable. (even if you are raised together)
Im not as judgmental about the actions of fictional characters - the toxic psychopaths are more interesting. Obviously in real life different criteria is used. But I still believe that if people are not harming anyone then live and let live.
It was sad because they had a wonderful friendship / relationship in the beginning. Peoples started gossiping and this ruined the relationship and led to extreme actions by Junior (to walk away) and Senior (desperate to hold on to Junior). I felt sorry for both parties (Im not defending the action of the rapist at all).
The way that the rape was resolved was strange - it was a families coming to an agreement rather then going to police and legal system.
People vote if they approve or disapprove of the contents , also for or against cp, some even downvote vote low if its not Thai (nationalistic and threatened if sway a Chinese bl is doing well).
Where can we sign.
Edit never mind i have found it and signed
https://secure.avaaz.org/community_petitions/en/sheng_yuan_yu_meng_long_de_suo_you_shan_liang_ren__justice_for_yu_menglong_alan_yu_wei_yu_meng_long_tao_gong_dao/
Im no biology expert but what is acceptable or safe can be decided by science.
These poor souls subject themselves to watching the more interesting, I mean sinful dramas so that we wont have to, after being informed that dramas contain some evil deeds.
I remember enjoying it but maybe that is because bls were still new to me.
I dont how i would rate it now if I watched it again.
Its not your typical bl. Watch it to see something different.
Im more generous with ratings from non GMM productions for obvious reasons.
Im not impressed when females (maybe because im a female) try to act cute by overdoing facial expressions. I like cute in women, but it should come naturally and not with exaggerated expressions and slapstick actions
I also felt it was too long. It would have been less boring with a few episodes.
They have no right to dictate how you practise or dont practise your religion. Stay safe
I have so much respect for him. (his response to fans demanding fan service)
He was great in "Count" role. I want to see him act, Not pretend to have a fake relationship and encourage parasocial interactions with fans .
I guess Im one of the few bl fans who feels uncomfortable with staged relationships for fan service.
I didnt get the impression that he would mistreat Jun going forward or that Sorn would neglect Juns feelings. Yes Sorn is forceful as that is his nature, but I dont think his intention is to harm or undermine Jun.
I understand where you are coming from but I guess im more forgiving.
I do like the actors as well.