Jessica

I would definitely agree but yeah, I have no idea how those things work.

Please tell haha. I agree that it felt very raw and genuine, and it was on par with more mature shows that I’ve seen—both Western and Eastern. I’m curious to know what specifically stood out to you.

Yes I’m so excited and happy for how popular this series is! So many good qualities that it’s sad to hear it’s being reduced down to a kiss for some. Guess that explains the recent interviews and videos where the actors seem to be playing up the fan service (and explanation like in Win’s snippet above) as if they feel they have to compensate for that kiss scene.

Yeah I thought the kiss fit the scene and the mood perfectly! Lazy Subber said the director said there will be a better view/kiss in the next episode so maybe that’ll help appease the ones who were disappointed.

Woooooooow. Of all the reasons to lose interest in a series. To each their own, but....

I’ve read before that GMM doesn’t really reuse their BL lead actors for other BL series (not including sequels—different shows entirely) (Off and Gun being the exception, and actually Singto too) so if he’s signed with them he’ll probably be put in different roles whether we like it or not haha. He is a really good actor though so I can definitely see him going far!

Ohh are the comments coming from outside of MDL then? Like social media sites? I remember being surprised at the Perth/Saint drama from LBC and that most (if not all) of it developed elsewhere, so maybe that’s what I’m missing? I don’t follow much “real world” stuff beyond what Lazy Subber posts lol so I’m assuming it’s stuff people have said on here. Certainly it’s never okay to belittle the actors for superficial things, but the worst I’ve seen here have been that the scenes were boring or fluff, which I think is valid critique rather than attacks on the actors themselves. I’m just genuinely confused about how complaining that SaiZon are getting less screen time is seemingly being equated with FTTT hate. Also agree—Saint and Zee are wonderful; there’s no denying they have amazing chemistry. A good, sexy counter to the cuteness that is Jimmy and Tommy ;)

I think most people are just lamenting the fact that the editing and screen time is disproportionate, so it hinders continuity of the story. Sure, some people have said they prefer sweeter, less explicit stuff, and while people will naturally prefer one couple over the other, I think that if the director and showrunners had given both story lines roughly equal screen time in each episode (since both are supposed to be the main couples), then it wouldn’t even be as big of a deal. In other words, it’s the format, not the characters or their storylines, that’s getting critiqued (for some people anyway, myself included).

Why can’t people complain about FTTT getting a lot of screen time? How does that hurt anybody? That’s part of their opinions and feelings. Is talking about distribution of screen time only permissible when you’re raving about it?

And I haven’t seen people talk negatively about Saint and Zee the actors, unless I’ve missed something (which is possible given the number of comments) in which case I’m happy to look and modify my statement accordingly. Nobody is dissing the actors or their hard work. All of these complaints /are/ going to the production and editing.

Video clip of Win talking about the kiss scene:

https://www.facebook.com/480446308989492/posts/1067023596998424/?vh=e&d=n

He brings up the thumb lmao

I was just thinking that lately the opening themes of many recent series have been so good.

Agree! I will say, as far as Green goes, you’re right that he’s drawn in the same vein as Bar. And not that his actions are more acceptable, but I think the actors’ portrayal and reception makes it easier (for lack of a better word) to watch. They have better chemistry and Tine seems more exasperated with Green whereas Bar seems flat out repulsed by Gun (until he announces he’s not but he still looks uncomfortable saying it haha). I also think Bar’s actions are a little creepier, like pulling Gun onto his lap and holding him there (I shudder every time I think about that lol) and telling Bar he’s not allowed to talk to someone who likes him even though Bar made it clear that he doesn’t like the friend back. Green mostly just followed (stalked?) Tine around and didn’t, to me, come across as pushy as Gun. For me it’s not that Gun is unattractive, but that he doesn’t have the charisma or charm to pull this role off, and Bar’s stubborn, rigid reactions are only making it worse and more awkward.

I wondered this same thing but someone said that it’s actually quite common to begin airing before filming is even finished, which I’m guessing happened here. They said that’s why sometimes they can lengthen or shorten a series. I’d hope the script is at least complete, so that they have some final endpoint in mind, but no, apparently filming still goes on.

Ok, some not all. Sorry—I was getting too caught up and speaking too broadly. Really just wanting people to understand how the SaiZon fans feel and look at things from their perspective too.

Definitely here for Man/Type (still loving Tine and Wat the most though lol). Mike (actor for Man) reminds me of Gunsmile (voice, demeanor, special something) so I’m kind of living my Gunsmile BL fantasies vicariously through Mike/Man lmao (I’m also just more drawn to that pairing over Frank and Drake, so it’s not 100% weird lol)

Hmmmmmm I think he’s definitely caught on to the fact that Wat feels some type of way towards him that may be more than platonic, and maybe this has caused him to have some confused feelings himself? Like he doesn’t completely understand how he feels about Wat and he’s working through that.

Ok :)

You said, “I hate seeing people being disrespectful towards the producers, directors, writers, [subbers], actors’ efforts!” and I’ve not seen that aside from maybe one or two comments, which seems insignificant to prompt such an impassioned comment. I’ve mostly seen criticisms and critiques in the form of opinions, so that’s what I was asking about. If you could point me to some specific comments that you felt were disrespectful, I’m interested to see what you mean.

You say you’re not here to start drama, but you’re calling people “entitled,” “whiny,” and “disrespectful” in a rather heated comment because they have different opinions than you and/or are saying things with which you disagree. And voicing disappointments about the show doesn’t mean people don’t still like it. I’m sure the ones who absolutely hate it have and will drop it.

I’m not looking for drama either; just trying to have a civil conversation where multiple viewpoints are expressed. Like you said, it’s just a show. It’s not that serious. No need for anyone to get so pressed over it.

3 episodes in and I’m reeeeaaallly enjoying it! Of course I love me some Joo Ji Hoon <3 and I’m really liking Kim Hye Soo as his opposite. Their dynamic is so good and the way KHS’s character always one-ups JJH’s brings me great amusement. Love the little twists, and I’m looking forward to seeing where this goes!

So critiquing a show = disrespect?

Also you’re telling people to stop watching if it makes them miserable. Why don’t you stop reading comments if they make you miserable? Someone posts the links in the discussion above so you don’t even have to scroll down and read comments in order to access the links. I am not trying to come for you, so please don’t mistake my tone as being hostile (which I know happens with written communication hence the disclaimer). There’s some disrespect going on, but it’s not all from the people you’re addressing in your comment.