Kelekat

Very well broken down arguments. I'm not sure the original poster fully got the point you were making though. Basically not all people can watch incest just as not all people can watch blood, gore and murder. So there's no point in comparing public response to both. It's not a matter of what's worse, it's a matter of individual preference for what they want to watch.

Or maybe I'm the one not fully grasping your point...

Still good arguments.

Just finished (again) and despite these complaints I still can't get over how much I actually like this drama. I really do. There's something truly endearing about it.

There definitely should have been a sequel made. With him being so "dreamy" and getting ready to go off to college while she's planning to become a hairdresser, there's a lot more story to tell to show they make it through his college years and later on to marriage. I would have really liked to see that.

I do like that avoid making that guy she started working for (the ML's friend) someone who ended up pursuing her. They kept it classy.

I'm watching this again now and I'm finding that I don't like how much they're focusing on the FL's insecurities in the relationship as a primary reason for their issues instead of the extremely shitty way the ML started treating her the moment that other girl showed up. Yes it was unintentional on his part (mostly) but there's still ways you don't behave around and with other girls when you're in a committed relationship. He also did nothing (NOTHING) to give her a sense of security and instead kept making it seem like she was the problem. I get that the timing of the return of his mother exacerbated the situation but they shouldn't have completely ignored and glossed over his bad behavior.

Now I know I end up liking him again at some point but right now (they just agreed to give each other some space and he did NOTHING to initiate reconciliation or even acknowledge that he'd been wrong for literally being caught out with another girl), at this moment, I'm seriously pissed with the ML. He did nothing to show remorse or regret, never tried to apologize (not once). He gave her up like she meant nothing.

But, even more than that, I don't like that they took the time to point out the FL's insecurities in the relationship (I get that they did so to focus on her personal growth from that point) but didn't bother to do the same for the ML. Just a few moments of reflection and reprehension of some form would have sufficed.

I just watched this for the second time and the one thing I still simply cannot even begin to fathom, much less accept about this entire drama, is that Shindou/Arata (the SML) and Midoriko (the SFL aka the Effervescent B*tch) ended up together. Even if it's 7-years later. How he could choose to be with someone who had once been that vicious, manipulative, extreme and vile to someone he knew and cared about, even if it's all in the past, is beyond unfathomable. It's literally nauseating. I cannot even think of the right word to express how much the thought disgusts me and just refuses to sit with me. I literally still cannot accept it.

LMAOOOOOOO!

Oh they were MARRIED! That's a totally different story.

Oh wait, no. You're not saying they're married but that you were thinking from that perspective.

I TOTALLY get where you're coming from and 1000000% agree! Once you're married it should only end if the marriage is completely ruined between the couple involved, not due to outside involvement or considerations, and everything possible should be done to make the marriage work. I can't express how much I agree with that viewpoint.

Love alone isn't enough to keep a marriage afloat. It takes true commitment, dedication and effort from both partners.

But I do also get that a marriage shouldn't be forced. If love is lost and there's nothing but duty keeping a person in the relationship then sometimes it can be best to let that person go so they can find their happiness and you find yours. Otherwise you can end up in an empty and lonely marriage for the rest of your life and that's just sad.

Same

This was adorable!

Not sure if you ever saw the post above with this link to subs:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3o8BNeYUDxO6-3iaXwXWw4iOVbUD4kC0

Posting it here for you just in case you were still looking.

Actually, this isn't what I'm in the mood for at the moment but I'll definitely watch it sometime. If my impression changes I'll let you know - if you're interested.

Just let them be. Don't get sucked in.

Also in reading a few other people's comments it seems like the FL liked the ML all along and the SML knew that too before they even got together. If that's the case he's actually a jerk for trying to force his feeling onto the FL in the first place. You CANNOT force someone to love you or reciprocate your feelings. It sounds like he finally came to his senses and knew when to let go.

I'm about to go watch this myself now just to see if I end up agreeing with you in the long-run.

I have a question. I haven't watched this yet but I've seen a few of your posts and am having a really tough time following your logic. I'm hoping you don't take my post negatively as I haven't watched the show yet and may be way off base.

If they were happy with their original partners, why did the leads have feelings for one another? Why would they even want to be with another person? That just tells me that even if the person they're with now treats them well they aren't really in love with them. If so, how is it better for them to stay with the person they aren't truly in love with? I saw another post where you said the second leads let them go because they were willing to let their beloveds be happier. "Be happier" means they weren't truly happy with the ones they were with. If so, then it was right for them to let them go be with who they really want to be with and loved.

From your comments it sounds like the second leads seem to be really good people who genuinely loved the leads. But if that love isn't reciprocated how would it be good for anyone of them to stay in the relationships they were in? Do you really think they would have been happy knowing the leads were only settling themselves to being with them? Do you also think they would have been happy knowing they were the reason why the leads wouldn't ever be able to find their own TRUE happiness had they stayed with them? It would have been selfish of them to try to get them to stay, knowing how they really felt. Staying with someone just because they are good to you and love you, even though you know you can't love them the same in return isn't right and would have been far more painful for the second leads in the end. Do you really think they'd be happy knowing that the person they love really wanted to be with someone else?

It sounds like the ones who fully reciprocated one another's LOVE were the leads. Even though each lead may have been good with and seemed happy with each of the second leads it doesn't sound like their love was reciprocated in the same way. Love cannot be forced. No matter how well someone treats you or how much they love you it doesn't mean you'll fall in love with them and can return their feelings in the same way. In those circumstances are you saying you still feel like the show was wrong for having them let go of those relationships that their hearts weren't in.

Think of the long term repercussions of people in those situations. That's how we end up with good people ending up becoming cheaters. [I added the clarifier "good people" to differentiate them from typical immoral cheaters who would cheat on their partners for any little excuse.]

Maybe if I watch it myself I'll understand your viewpoint but I'll be honest, from your comments alone I seriously doubt it. Even if I watch it and find that the relationship between the leads seems forced, I feel like I'd rather see the leads walk away from any relationship and wait for the person they truly love than settle to be with the second leads because of the love the felt from them.

Even if you disagree do you at least get where I'm coming from?

I agree with everything you're saying except for the grandfather and the painting having anything to do with why he married her. He married her because he felt he owed her after she changed his life when she bought his art piece 6 years earlier, which is why it was so critical that he saw that on her desk before he finally went to find her and said they should get married. He explains this to be his reason several times later in the drama. It had nothing to do with getting the painting back for his grandfather before he died. Yes those things were important to him at the time but they had nothing to do with his decision to get married. He would have figured out other ways to get that. He explained the story of what happened 6 years prior and why he chose to get married both to the young apprentice friend and to the FL herself once she remembered the circumstances from 6 years prior.

Okay, yes. Your response makes sense and is just what I needed too. I think I'll give this a go. Thanks for the reply!

LMAO!!! You're awesome.

Okay great. Just the post I was looking for. I'm trying to decide if I want to watch this but the reviews above are too old. They're both clearly from long before Something in the Rain. Since SITR is your fav I wanted to see if you at least enjoyed this or if it was just a turnoff. I see your concerns about the way the ML was written (appreciate the heads up) and get that I shouldn't expect something of SITR's calibre but is it still at least an enjoyable watch? Also, how slow of a slow-burn are we talking?

I just read the 2 reviews above and clearly they were from well before Something in the Rain.

Okay, yeah, I'm dropping it. I looked up spoilers and made the decision for 2 reasons:

1) the FL's sole dream is supposedly to have a home and family yet she gives that up for her career. How is she any different from her mother? How does it make this a happy ending for her? If she's not able to come home every day to her husband and family like she dreamed of then where's the happy ending?

2) the ML's brother supposedly is shown to have always wanted a good relationship with his brother but with the way he's always treated him (then and now) and the things he's said and done that makes absolutely zero sense. He also keeps holding it over the ML's head that he destroyed the brother's art piece but completely ignores the fact that the reason the kid reacted the way he did because of his constant bullying. But after all this I'm supposed to buy that the only thing preventing them from being close was a single misunderstanding???

The show is too inconsistent. It makes no sense. I'm dropping it.