Kelekat

I just watched this for the second time and the one thing I still simply cannot even begin to fathom, much less accept about this entire drama, is that Shindou/Arata (the SML) and Midoriko (the SFL aka the Effervescent B*tch) ended up together. Even if it's 7-years later. How he could choose to be with someone who had once been that vicious, manipulative, extreme and vile to someone he knew and cared about, even if it's all in the past, is beyond unfathomable. It's literally nauseating. I cannot even think of the right word to express how much the thought disgusts me and just refuses to sit with me. I literally still cannot accept it.

LMAOOOOOOO!

Oh they were MARRIED! That's a totally different story.

Oh wait, no. You're not saying they're married but that you were thinking from that perspective.

I TOTALLY get where you're coming from and 1000000% agree! Once you're married it should only end if the marriage is completely ruined between the couple involved, not due to outside involvement or considerations, and everything possible should be done to make the marriage work. I can't express how much I agree with that viewpoint.

Love alone isn't enough to keep a marriage afloat. It takes true commitment, dedication and effort from both partners.

But I do also get that a marriage shouldn't be forced. If love is lost and there's nothing but duty keeping a person in the relationship then sometimes it can be best to let that person go so they can find their happiness and you find yours. Otherwise you can end up in an empty and lonely marriage for the rest of your life and that's just sad.

Same

This was adorable!

Not sure if you ever saw the post above with this link to subs:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3o8BNeYUDxO6-3iaXwXWw4iOVbUD4kC0

Posting it here for you just in case you were still looking.

Actually, this isn't what I'm in the mood for at the moment but I'll definitely watch it sometime. If my impression changes I'll let you know - if you're interested.

Just let them be. Don't get sucked in.

Also in reading a few other people's comments it seems like the FL liked the ML all along and the SML knew that too before they even got together. If that's the case he's actually a jerk for trying to force his feeling onto the FL in the first place. You CANNOT force someone to love you or reciprocate your feelings. It sounds like he finally came to his senses and knew when to let go.

I'm about to go watch this myself now just to see if I end up agreeing with you in the long-run.

I have a question. I haven't watched this yet but I've seen a few of your posts and am having a really tough time following your logic. I'm hoping you don't take my post negatively as I haven't watched the show yet and may be way off base.

If they were happy with their original partners, why did the leads have feelings for one another? Why would they even want to be with another person? That just tells me that even if the person they're with now treats them well they aren't really in love with them. If so, how is it better for them to stay with the person they aren't truly in love with? I saw another post where you said the second leads let them go because they were willing to let their beloveds be happier. "Be happier" means they weren't truly happy with the ones they were with. If so, then it was right for them to let them go be with who they really want to be with and loved.

From your comments it sounds like the second leads seem to be really good people who genuinely loved the leads. But if that love isn't reciprocated how would it be good for anyone of them to stay in the relationships they were in? Do you really think they would have been happy knowing the leads were only settling themselves to being with them? Do you also think they would have been happy knowing they were the reason why the leads wouldn't ever be able to find their own TRUE happiness had they stayed with them? It would have been selfish of them to try to get them to stay, knowing how they really felt. Staying with someone just because they are good to you and love you, even though you know you can't love them the same in return isn't right and would have been far more painful for the second leads in the end. Do you really think they'd be happy knowing that the person they love really wanted to be with someone else?

It sounds like the ones who fully reciprocated one another's LOVE were the leads. Even though each lead may have been good with and seemed happy with each of the second leads it doesn't sound like their love was reciprocated in the same way. Love cannot be forced. No matter how well someone treats you or how much they love you it doesn't mean you'll fall in love with them and can return their feelings in the same way. In those circumstances are you saying you still feel like the show was wrong for having them let go of those relationships that their hearts weren't in.

Think of the long term repercussions of people in those situations. That's how we end up with good people ending up becoming cheaters. [I added the clarifier "good people" to differentiate them from typical immoral cheaters who would cheat on their partners for any little excuse.]

Maybe if I watch it myself I'll understand your viewpoint but I'll be honest, from your comments alone I seriously doubt it. Even if I watch it and find that the relationship between the leads seems forced, I feel like I'd rather see the leads walk away from any relationship and wait for the person they truly love than settle to be with the second leads because of the love the felt from them.

Even if you disagree do you at least get where I'm coming from?

I agree with everything you're saying except for the grandfather and the painting having anything to do with why he married her. He married her because he felt he owed her after she changed his life when she bought his art piece 6 years earlier, which is why it was so critical that he saw that on her desk before he finally went to find her and said they should get married. He explains this to be his reason several times later in the drama. It had nothing to do with getting the painting back for his grandfather before he died. Yes those things were important to him at the time but they had nothing to do with his decision to get married. He would have figured out other ways to get that. He explained the story of what happened 6 years prior and why he chose to get married both to the young apprentice friend and to the FL herself once she remembered the circumstances from 6 years prior.

Okay, yes. Your response makes sense and is just what I needed too. I think I'll give this a go. Thanks for the reply!

LMAO!!! You're awesome.

Okay great. Just the post I was looking for. I'm trying to decide if I want to watch this but the reviews above are too old. They're both clearly from long before Something in the Rain. Since SITR is your fav I wanted to see if you at least enjoyed this or if it was just a turnoff. I see your concerns about the way the ML was written (appreciate the heads up) and get that I shouldn't expect something of SITR's calibre but is it still at least an enjoyable watch? Also, how slow of a slow-burn are we talking?

I just read the 2 reviews above and clearly they were from well before Something in the Rain.

Okay, yeah, I'm dropping it. I looked up spoilers and made the decision for 2 reasons:

1) the FL's sole dream is supposedly to have a home and family yet she gives that up for her career. How is she any different from her mother? How does it make this a happy ending for her? If she's not able to come home every day to her husband and family like she dreamed of then where's the happy ending?

2) the ML's brother supposedly is shown to have always wanted a good relationship with his brother but with the way he's always treated him (then and now) and the things he's said and done that makes absolutely zero sense. He also keeps holding it over the ML's head that he destroyed the brother's art piece but completely ignores the fact that the reason the kid reacted the way he did because of his constant bullying. But after all this I'm supposed to buy that the only thing preventing them from being close was a single misunderstanding???

The show is too inconsistent. It makes no sense. I'm dropping it.

I guess I'm in the minority about the FL. Her decision to hide the fact that she needs help from her husband screams "noble idiocy" to me. How exactly is it beneficial to either of them to keep him in the dark that she's stuck in a bind? How does she think he'd feel to know she didn't call him, or tell him she needed help when he actually ended up calling her? Like, what?

My good feelings for the drama keep getting chipped away in these recent episodes (I'm on 18).

Like, the boss telling the FL to think of herself and not her husband or family. That irks me because, while it's good for women to be ambitious and all, in reality most people's careers aren't built on realizing their dreams. In reality, most of us are just working to earn money to support and care for our families. So why is it constantly shown as a bad thing for a woman to NOT choose her career over her family? The same goes for men! Don't get me wrong. If it's something they really want then they should definitely go for it and not have regrets later. However, it goes both ways. It's also okay to give up an opportunity that seems perfect on paper to everyone around but isn't actually what that person wants or what would truly make them happy.

These shows always portray it like people who turn down those amazing offers are sacrificing themselves for their families. In cases where the opportunity means realizing a long-held dream then sure, I agree. But in cases where all they're getting out of it is an opportunity to earn more money while having to sacrifice being with their loved ones then NO, it's NOT the right choice. It's what's important to THAT PERSON that matters. So, in her case where the whole premise of the story and their relationship is based on the fact that all she really wants out of life is a family and a home, it makes no sense for her to even consider giving that up for a chance to further her career. In fact, it makes her no different from her mother.

I dunno. I really think I may end up dropping this drama. It's like they never figured out what message they want to send so they're all over the place with the storyline. These past couple of episodes have done nothing but irritate and alienate me.

You do know you can go to a courthouse and register your marriage that same day, correct? That's not a falsity. Depends on what country you're in and all that but actually registering a marriage with the courts is literally something you go in and do all in one day here in the US, in the Caribbean, in South America, in Europe...

It's not like they were planning to have a wedding or anything so once they agreed to get married it's actually pretty logical that they'd just go get it done at the courthouse whenever they both would be available to do so.

Also, an uncontested divorce can be filed right away too. It's all a matter of submitting the documents to the court, then waiting for divorce to be processed.

Plus the way all of that works in China is likely very different from what you may be used to.

Ummm the last part of this assessment is way wrong and extremely misleading. He wasn't desperate because of money. At not point was he that way. He only married her after realizing their connection from the past when he saw his work on the desk in the office. He had no intention of marrying her for the painting and she had no intention of letting him. She proposed to him because she wanted a family. She was only acting like the painting was a dowry to get back at him for turning her down once she realized he was the buyer. In fact, she went to give him the painting without asking for anything in return but that's when he proposed to her instead (after seeing his piece in her office like I mentioned).

Me tooooo! You're referring to the older brother, correct? He's nothing but a bully through and through. His bad ass needed his butt whooped several times as a kid. I'm only just on ep 17 so based on your comment I can only expect him to get worse?? UGH! Kill me now.

I remember seeing someone comment somewhere that the beef between the brothers was over something so stupid that it didn't need to get as blown out of proportion as it did. From what I can see the beef between them isn't due to a single incident. It's due to that kid being an asshole and continuing to be one even when he grew up. He's selfish, spoiled and a bully in every sense of the word.