FrothyMix

lmal...why are you commenting on a comment on something you wrote four years ago? I commented because that's the question that came to me when reading your comments above and so I, you know, commented. That's what comment sections are for. And if no one responds, whether it was ten years ago or ten days, what difference does it make to you or to me? I write to express my thoughts and feelings and get them in perspective for myself, not necessarily for anyone else to see. But again it's bizarre that you rag on me for commenting on an old comment...and then comment on my comment. I guess that makes you even more weird than me, eh?

The fact that you perceive my comment as condescending is purely on you; it was not written with that attitude. It's just a question. I don't get why you think you've been insulted or something. Weird. Why didn't you just ignore my comment? MOST adults? Most adults do lots of stupid and intellecturally lazy things like not even trying to understand your comment about wanting to be warned about events in a film. At least I gave you the respect you deserved and sought to understand where you're coming from. And now I have an answer: You are a cranky, angry person who takes offense wherever they can find it. There is NOTHING pretentious about my question and frankly, I don't care if it annoys you or not. The fact that you couldn't bring yourself to just ignore it says a lot about you: take your own advice and mind your own business. Why do you feel obligated to chastise an anonymous commenter of MDL? lol

Thanks for the review. I agree about a three-way relationship being the center focus of a series. That would be really fascinating and the possibilities for it to go in all kinds of directions are endless. I'm not opposed to anyone trying to do a throuple, but I certainly couldn't do it. It requires just exactly the right mix of temperaments and personalities for it to have a chance to work, and there is no way three people can all love and equally express that to love to each of the other two at all times. It would require three VERY confident, secure people, who maybe actually get turned on at seeing their partners go at it physically/sexually. It would be hot, now that I think about it, to play the voyeur and tell the other two exactly what I want to see them do to each other, step by step...well, I suppose that's the horn-dog in me. lol But it would also require three very good senses of humor to make a throuple work, now that I think about that too.

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I liked him a lot, too.

gosh, I don't remember. Probably googled it and watched it somewhere.

I'm sure I'll be back for a third watch some day too, Manisha. It's such a good series until you know what. :D Will definitely watch if we get the second sesason we keep hearing about. I've never heard of "Fiery Priest." I will have to check it out.

All best to you.

Damn, way too many of the synopses here at MDL give away the entire damn story, complete with bare-ass-naked spoilers. Jesus.

What does this mean? I havent' found anything online saying she's dead.

Love your comment. I too was sobbing with grief and frustration, and I explain why at the top in my spoiler comment if you care to read it. It was frustration we were meant to feel.

Could you expound a bit on how it could have been "better, way better?" How was the ending a "surprise?" It was an open ending unless you got to see something I didn't.

That's how I choose to read the ending as well, though we don't know about your last point for sure...after sobbing like an idiot for the previous 15 minutes I was praying the director would give us at least that much. But we don't actually see them see each other...

My reading is that she took in the little boy who was living with Min Su at the fishery as her own and that's who she was talking to on the car phone as she drove to the orphanage at the end. And my fervent prayer is that the boy at the orphanage who we didn't get to see is Yoon Su. Beloved Min Su, whose spirit is free at least, found in the tidal mud, is the one my heart aches for.

We don't get the answer to that question...but the mother had a pleasantly increasing smile crossing her face at the end so that is my hope, that it is Yoon Su. Yes, the brother-in-law is a monster.

I feel you. Check my spoiler post above. Min Su is the one I mourn most of all.

An hour after this movie's conclusion and I'm still catching my breath. I don't mind a movie that rips my heart and guts out if need be, but the end of this one also put them through the food processor and flushed them down the toilet. In that good, masochistic, movie-goer kind of way.

Details in my comment below this one. 9/10

omg...my heart is broken in a hundred pieces. I want the boy at the end to be her son, I love that she took in the other boy as her own, but I will never forget the image of another boy's foot and a handcuff, slathered in mud. I am mourning for him...

Wow, Lee Young Ae...staggeringly affecting as the mom. Every character in the cast real and distinct personalities, whether I hated or loved them.

I cry fairly easily at movies that move me, but the end of this one had me gasping for air...and I'm not over it yet. This one will be with me for a few days. That little, broken stick figure, half-buried in the tidal mud...I was PRAYING, first that Min Su would just show up, having swam to shore, then that mom would, for the sake of the other little boy who Min Su saved, NOT inject herself, then that the boy in the mud would move his little toe, then that the boy in the playground would be Yoon Su...

...so that's how it's going to end for me: It IS Yoon Su in the playground and he and his mom and his new adoptive brother will live long happy lives and never forget the persistent and brave husband/dad or the beautiful little boy in the mud who was also brave and innocent.

I also wish that MOFO who she stabbed with the Ketamine would have died a much slower, agonizing death.

How do you take a movie with two such gorgeous young actors and lots of bare flesh and make it this boring? Bad acting, lots of bad acting, dancers who all dance the exact, same repetitious way, a plot you've seen 15 times before, bad dialogue, bad direction, you name it. Whatever the answer, this movie is the question.

OK, well, you provided me with a well-written summary of the plot, in the voice of a typical critic, but you did not answer my query, what makes this "art?" To me it is anything BUT that.

There is nothing much original in the story here, so like most good movies, where it has the opportunity to shine is in HOW the story is told. And it utterly failed. Unanswered questions, plot holes, stereotypes right and left, bad acting, plot inconcistencies, bad direction, etc. made this a cringe-watch despite the undeniable hotness and frequent nakedness of the lead actor.

Biggest question: wtf was up with Danny and Lito or whatever his name was, the guy he had sex with out of the freaking blue early in the movie, right after banging his wife the night before? That never went anywhere in the story. After it happened it was as though it NEVER happened. Were they lovers or fuck buddies? Did Danny, who was otherwise presented as a fairly ethical and decent guy, feel any conflict about hosing this guy on the side while carrying on a straight romance with his fiance? Was he straight, bi or gay? And of course, the WAY they had sex was SO trope-ified, with that cliche, frantic, tearing-the-clothes-off-each-other, breathless fake passion seen in about 10,000 other movies.

What was Lito's position that put him in that nice office with a guard at the door? What was wrong with the dad, exactly? Why did Danny turn into a whiny little girl as soon as he got in trouble, a disposition totally at odd with his overall personality? How did he cum after about ten seconds during a blow job from that psycho colonel at the end? The questions go on and on...

In what way was this an "art" movie? What made you classify it as one?

Thanks, but I'm aware of WOBL already. I've been finding some good Asian gay feature films online by diligent searching though.