Has everyone programmed their phones/alarm clocks, etc. for AoS Ep. 5??
My schedule? 5:00 am (PDT) - get up, fix coffee, put the dog out, turn on the computer, fire up the VPN. 5:10 and watch the live broadcast (w/out subs) - enjoy the visuals and understand 1/2 of what is going on because the two main leads are stellar in communicating with their facial expressions - the exact words don't matter that much.
~ 6:40 am: make another cup of coffee; turn on the TV and wait for Netflix to release (usually a few minutes before 7:00 am). Enjoy my life.
Here's the schedule: 8:10 pm KST - live broadcast on TVN.
Okay questions guys. If Former king and Jang Gang switch bodies, he said that he only need 7 days right? Then…
I think there are two options w/regard to MuDeok's soul: 1. The shift/transfer did happen. She's dead and gone, never to be heard from again. That is not good news for Naksu, since she's beginning to lose her energy. 2. The shift/transfer did NOT happen and Mu-Deok's soul continues to reside w/in her body, dormant for now?
As Naksu's soul begins to "seep" out of Mu-deok's body, (and it IS happening since Gwinju recognized it), then what? I don't know.
I go for option 2 - the reason there wasn't a blue mark on the shoulder is that Mu-Deok's soul did NOT transfer OUT of her body. Just a theory.
After Ep. 4, I promised a few folks that I would get something put together before the next episodes. This is a collection of statements made at various times by various characters on the topic of "soul-shifters" Constructive comments welcome.
As of Ep. 4, the Daeho “science” of soul-shifting encompasses a variety of separate elements. A. Souls can be transferred between two bodies B. Once shifted/transferred, a shifter is able to absorb/devour other souls,, at which point the absorbed soul ceases to exist separately (and the devoured soul’s body perishes) C. It may be possible that more than one soul can inhabit a body (JangKang, Ep. 1 “A crack forms when the bodies clash with the souls [PLURAL] they carry” D. Souls can be “collected” [Ep. 1 Jim Mu tells Naksu that “the soul you need to collect this time is Park Jin, the leader of Songrim”]
FACTS (not Spoilers) 1. There is a magical device called a “Soul Ejector” which is used for the “Alchemy of Souls” ●Jang Kang said it was required in order to transfer him back into his own body. Question: But what did Naksu use to transfer her soul into Mu-Deok’s body. ● Question: where is that device? What does it look like? Is it the golden circular icon at the very beginning of the title sequence?
2. There are many problems that arise w/Soul-shifting, including: ● If a soul is too strong and it enters an unbefitting (?) body, it cannot access it’s energy [Does this mean it is the SOUL that possesses “energy”???] ● Therefor, a soul may lose it’s energy due to the body it transfers into ● a soul-shifters energy seeps out of the body ● if a soul clashes with its new body, the body will turn into a rock ● “when a soul shifter “turns wild” it will lose it’s energy. The “wild” soul shifter can replace their lost energy by absorbing that of a human; If it is unable to replace that energy, it will become petrified.
3. Identifying a soul shifter; ● A blue mark shows that a soul has left a body ● W/in a soul shifter, there is a gap between the body and the soul; the evil energy seeps out from it and can be detected.
4. Best soul-shifting methods ● “for everything to go smoothly, a soul shifter should pick someone similar. Gender, age and build – they all need to be similar” ● It appears that actual soul-shifting requires water (water shown w/both the King/Jang and Naksu/Mu-deok.)
5. Soul Shifting can only be performed once one has mastered Jipsu, Ryusa, Chisu and ultimately Hwansu, a “god-like” power. According to Heo Yeom, only two humans have mastered this power: Master Seo Gyeong, the founder of Songrim and “someone else”
● This appears to be inaccurate – Jang Kang and Naksu performed it and they were not Hwansu. It’s not clear if Jin Mu performs the sorcery with his own power or uses the device named “Soul Ejector”.
Not a period-genre fan! But reading from these reviews plus being a fan of JSM will it be worth it?
Not a period-genre fan either, but when I saw that JSM was the lead, I started to investigate and was hooked by this video (an earlier version was released prior to the first episode):
i have only one wish and that is even though her name now is mudeok, she will remain being naksu inside throughout…
She's aleady losing her Naksu-ness, bit by bit. She's a soul-shifter - her fate isn't really a positive one at this point unless the writers re-write what we have been told about the fate of soul-shifters.
We have a topic discussion to dump theories! Don't be shy, let's have fun!https://mydramalist.com/discussions/can-this-person-be-translated/74047-your-wildest-theories-about-aos
The theory section is fun, but confusing with the multitude of theories on every topic under the sun. I've been spending my limited time re-watching everything to do with soul shifting and preparing a thesis on the "science of soul- shifting" for everyone's review and constructive comment. Hope to finalize early tomorrow (my time).
Maybe he's a Lee. Yes, I'm talking about Teacher Lee xD
I believe she is Jin Woo-tak's daughter because his character description states "He's looking for his lost daughter." Based on your thoughts, perhaps Dad was a "Lee" - therefor Teacher Lee could be her uncle (?).
What happened to the older daughter? I don't know, but I tend to think it was nefarious since Jin Mu is half-brother to Mother Jin. Maybe he didn't like my ideal of the betrothal-from-the-cradle cuz it might mean a Jang heir? 😂😂😂😂 I really don't have a clue except certain outcomes make sense to me and others I would consider contrived and silly.
The only thing I am certain of is that Mu-Deok , as personified by Jung So Min, and Jang Uk are Destined with a Capital D to be together. 😊
Maybe he's a Lee. Yes, I'm talking about Teacher Lee xD
Oh. . . . .good one!
So, putting our collective thinking caps on......in this situation, Teacher Lee might be related to eldest "Jin" daughter if my theory (that she isn't a blood Jin) is correct. I like this - very much. 😊
After re-watching the scene with Cho-yeon and her Mom (Ep. 3), I have a sneaking hunch that Jang Uk and the older sister were betrothed as children. 🤣🤣🤣
I also question if the older sister is a Jin. The character description says that Ho-kyung she has "affection for her eldest daughter, whom she lost when she was young. A FIRST-TIME [my emphasis] mother."
Plus, why do the character descriptions make a big deal about the fact that Father Jin gave up his original surname in order to marry Mother Jin? He must be from a family that is unrelated to any of Cho-yeon's potential suitors. So, he's not a Park or a Jang. Conclusion? He's either a Seo or from a completely different noble family.
At the moment, with four episodes this have been My favorite drama of the year, but Lets see the facts and be…
Happy ending for Naksu? the little girl that was trained to be an assassin of presumably good mages??? Hmmmm. . . . . . .very problematic. Happy ending for Mu-Deok (AND Jang Uk) - very likely.
I'm loving this kdrama. Out of all the kdramas in 2022 this one is so far the best to me. MY PREDICTIONS/THEORY:…
NO. There is zero $$$ (Won) to be made with this type of ending. It will be happy and satisfying and enough open ends to justify another 10 episodes. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
But yes, unless writers are playing major mind games with us, Cho-jeon's older sister is Mu-doek. The clues have been there from the very beginning and they continue to show up. The older sister is "missing or lost" according to official web sites, not dead.
If there is wedding, it will be Jang Uk and older sister/Mu-deok. IF there is a wedding.
Why do I feel like naksu’s soul is the original soul of mudeok???? It’s just my opinion. What do you guys…
Hmmmmm. . . . . . . no. Although my theory is that some of her "memories" were "planted" and therefor inaccurate, I don't believe she was originally Mu-Deok.
My schedule?
5:00 am (PDT) - get up, fix coffee, put the dog out, turn on the computer, fire up the VPN.
5:10 and watch the live broadcast (w/out subs) - enjoy the visuals and understand 1/2 of what is going on because the two main leads are stellar in communicating with their facial expressions - the exact words don't matter that much.
~ 6:40 am: make another cup of coffee; turn on the TV and wait for Netflix to release (usually a few minutes before 7:00 am). Enjoy my life.
Here's the schedule:
8:10 pm KST - live broadcast on TVN.
~11:00 pm KST - Release on Netflix
~12:30 am KST - MDL goes crazy.🤣🤣🤣🤣
1. The shift/transfer did happen. She's dead and gone, never to be heard from again. That is not good news for Naksu, since she's beginning to lose her energy.
2. The shift/transfer did NOT happen and Mu-Deok's soul continues to reside w/in her body, dormant for now?
As Naksu's soul begins to "seep" out of Mu-deok's body, (and it IS happening since Gwinju recognized it), then what? I don't know.
I go for option 2 - the reason there wasn't a blue mark on the shoulder is that Mu-Deok's soul did NOT transfer OUT of her body. Just a theory.
After Ep. 4, I promised a few folks that I would get something put together before the next episodes. This is a collection of statements made at various times by various characters on the topic of "soul-shifters" Constructive comments welcome.
As of Ep. 4, the Daeho “science” of soul-shifting encompasses a variety of separate elements.
A. Souls can be transferred between two bodies
B. Once shifted/transferred, a shifter is able to absorb/devour other souls,, at which point the absorbed soul ceases to exist separately (and the devoured soul’s body perishes)
C. It may be possible that more than one soul can inhabit a body (JangKang, Ep. 1 “A crack forms when the bodies clash with the souls [PLURAL] they carry”
D. Souls can be “collected” [Ep. 1 Jim Mu tells Naksu that “the soul you need to collect this time is Park Jin, the leader of Songrim”]
FACTS (not Spoilers)
1. There is a magical device called a “Soul Ejector” which is used for the “Alchemy of Souls”
●Jang Kang said it was required in order to transfer him back into his own body. Question: But what did Naksu use to transfer her soul into Mu-Deok’s body.
● Question: where is that device? What does it look like? Is it the golden circular icon at the very beginning of the title sequence?
2. There are many problems that arise w/Soul-shifting, including:
● If a soul is too strong and it enters an unbefitting (?) body, it cannot access it’s energy [Does this mean it is the SOUL that possesses “energy”???]
● Therefor, a soul may lose it’s energy due to the body it transfers into
● a soul-shifters energy seeps out of the body
● if a soul clashes with its new body, the body will turn into a rock
● “when a soul shifter “turns wild” it will lose it’s energy. The “wild” soul shifter can replace their lost energy by absorbing that of a human; If it is unable to replace that energy, it will become petrified.
3. Identifying a soul shifter;
● A blue mark shows that a soul has left a body
● W/in a soul shifter, there is a gap between the body and the soul; the evil energy seeps out from it and can be detected.
4. Best soul-shifting methods
● “for everything to go smoothly, a soul shifter should pick someone similar. Gender, age and build – they all need to be similar”
● It appears that actual soul-shifting requires water (water shown w/both the King/Jang and Naksu/Mu-deok.)
5. Soul Shifting can only be performed once one has mastered Jipsu, Ryusa, Chisu and ultimately Hwansu, a “god-like” power. According to Heo Yeom, only two humans have mastered this power: Master Seo Gyeong, the founder of Songrim and “someone else”
● This appears to be inaccurate – Jang Kang and Naksu performed it and they were not Hwansu. It’s not clear if Jin Mu performs the sorcery with his own power or uses the device named “Soul Ejector”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYcz4dVz1nM
What happened to the older daughter? I don't know, but I tend to think it was nefarious since Jin Mu is half-brother to Mother Jin. Maybe he didn't like my ideal of the betrothal-from-the-cradle cuz it might mean a Jang heir? 😂😂😂😂 I really don't have a clue except certain outcomes make sense to me and others I would consider contrived and silly.
The only thing I am certain of is that Mu-Deok , as personified by Jung So Min, and Jang Uk are Destined with a Capital D to be together. 😊
So, putting our collective thinking caps on......in this situation, Teacher Lee might be related to eldest "Jin" daughter if my theory (that she isn't a blood Jin) is correct. I like this - very much. 😊
Artist: Kassey (or Casey?)
Title: Arium
http://www.slist.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=365675
I also question if the older sister is a Jin. The character description says that Ho-kyung she has "affection for her eldest daughter, whom she lost when she was young. A FIRST-TIME [my emphasis] mother."
Plus, why do the character descriptions make a big deal about the fact that Father Jin gave up his original surname in order to marry Mother Jin? He must be from a family that is unrelated to any of Cho-yeon's potential suitors. So, he's not a Park or a Jang. Conclusion? He's either a Seo or from a completely different noble family.
But yes, unless writers are playing major mind games with us, Cho-jeon's older sister is Mu-doek. The clues have been there from the very beginning and they continue to show up. The older sister is "missing or lost" according to official web sites, not dead.
If there is wedding, it will be Jang Uk and older sister/Mu-deok. IF there is a wedding.