TurkishRose

" do you love someone like that? How does anyone love anyone? You may love someone but not always like the choices they make or the person they sometimes choose to be, but you still love them (while calling them out on their things which Seol does). As for how Seol can like/love Jung, I believe when she looks at him she doesn't see some creepy, cunning, manipulative, mastermind. I'm going to use Seol's own words and actions here:

She sees and likes the guy who was persistent in asking her for a meal, the guy who gave her his computer to use when hers was broken and she needed to write a report. Everyone said no and he gave his when she needed it even though she didn't ask. She sees the guy who helped save her from getting a flunking grade by coming to her defense with teacher Kang and even willing to get a bad grade himself for it. She sees the guy who told her she didn't have to apologize for the San Chul "misunderstanding" but wanted a meal instead. She sees the guy who couldn't open kimbap and never ate convient store food before. She sees the guy who although mad at her still came and rescued her during her on very drunk night. She sees the guy who took her to a bench to bandage her wounds and told her to think of herself once in a while and come to him if she needs help. She sees the guy who when no one was talking to her, he dropped a coin in to get a drink and agreed to a meal with her. She sees the guy who practiced how to open kimbap which before he could not do, and looked so proud and happy to do it for her. She sees the guy who apologized and admitted to being uncomfortable during their, his no talking time but pretended to be fine. She sees the guy who she instinctively grabbed his hand and nodded her head yes to date. There is more than the above.

What makes Jung loveable to Seol? The way he brushes her bangs. The way he holds her hand. The way he helped her find an academy free of cost to attend when she shared that with him once. He's loveable in the way he tells her to use her coupons, he asks and listens to her talk about how she met her friends. He's loveable in how he tells her she's pretty, he tells her his first impressions of her have changed since when they first met. He's lovable in how he carries her drunk flat mate on his back home. He's loveable in how he listens to her talk, shares and understands in her father issues, jealousy, and feelings of "some people get love easily" aka Joon and Inho. He's loveable because he understood her, appreciated her independent drive, hard work, and told her the one thing she'd always wanted to hear "I'ld be proud of you. You're doing a good job, working so hard".

Jung is lovable to Seol because he takes her hand and calms her down when she's fighting with Joon for his benefit. He's lovable because he understood he went too far and "he did it for me so it's okay.." He told the whole class they're dating and wants to walk around campus holding hands. Jung is lovable because people think of him as a pushover too, as different as the two are they also very similar,many times Seol doesn't have to say anything, she just thinks it, and it's like Jung knows and responds. There a many reasons Jung is lovable to Seol, he makes her laugh, he makes her happy, she can talk with him and get understanding, she tells him somethings she doesn't with others, she goes bouncing to him happily when he's there, she misses him when he's not there. Yeah he's not easy. She may not like how he gets it done, but he has helped her solve many of her problems and very effectively too. Seol is/was confused and was neither here or there in going or staying. However she felt she knew him well enough and trusted what she knew to partially lie and tell the truth to defend his name and reputation.

Jung lovable to Seol because he's there when she needs someone and despite having Bora, Euntaek, her family, it's with him. It was his "Seol-ah, have you been well" (dramafever subs gets so much wrong) that got her crying all her hurt out. He was there to hold her and let her cry. He was there to take her on the night drive free of her family worries she needed, just teasing and joking and laughing with hotdogs on a stick. Jung is lovable to Seol because he let down his walls and was honest like she asked for and with that she saw someone she likes even more and wanted to give a "chance to be honest." Jung is lovable to Seol because she's seen, heard, and knows who he is (granted she doesn't know all the details) and she not running way. To Seol those things are part of who Jung is but not all of who he is and I guess for her, the good she sees and feels when with him out weights the bad she's seen and heard, so she stays.

How do people find people who have issues, disabilities or disorders lovable? I know this may sound cliche or naive but we all have our issues and we all come with our sets of baggage and damage people are willing stand by and some are not. In my program I've seen parents, lovers, co-workers, friends stand by to try to be there for be with and help them help improve themselves, the type of people with issues like Jung and I seen some who walked away. It takes a lot, it's not easy on anyone. But why do they even bother? What's loveable about these people? Whatever good or feeling or something that they have seen that makes that person worth it and worthy to them and for them. I understand where you are coming from because sometimes I look at the people I work with and wonder WTF WHY? RUN...My family when I share sometimes look at me and ask "aren't you scared? Why do work with these people? How? Why? What if they hurt you?" I'm going to sound naive as hell, but I don't want any other job. I believe in the goodness people. I believe everyone has some kindness some good in them. Even if it's tiny. If you can latch on to that use that as some kind of basis (like the way Jung views insects. He never hurts them. He admires and puts them back -though many await his crushing it-) to teach, learn, grow, and produce changes and improvements on oneself. I believe people can be rehabilitated, learn to cope, learn to function and be productive,happy (their ideal happiness), safe beings in society.

None of us were born the way we were. It's both nature and nurture. A lot of who/what we are we learned and were taught. Then we can also unlearn and be taught new ways. Although I may sound like some "dreamer", I do know some people are unreachable and no amount of anything will help them. They are too far gone. I've also encountered those types. It can be devastating on a lot of people, but especially themselves since they don't even see it. However I don't think Jung is one of those unreachable people. I understand and respect the opinions and arguments of those who do, however I don't agree. Jung needs psychological help. I been say that. Does this mean Seol can't or shouldn't be with him? He's undeserving or shouldn't have love, family, support, and happiness we all desire? Nope. For all I said about them and they had it coming I don't that on Jung or TA Heo, or Minsoo, Younggon...not even him. They don't deserve misery and to be cast aside and be outsiders or "others" of society. know I sound like a head in the clouds dreamer to some but y'all need people like me LOL. Psychologist, counselors, life coach, therapist, doctors, etc are needed. "

-written by mssojibsub
@rainecat for sharing it ♥

This is pure perfection, how she listed all his good qualities. It deserves to be read really. I love how people can see the good qualities in very flawed people as well, it makes them more human.

This is one of the most PERFECT summaries I've read, great job :)

yes exactly, "the complex of human nature" I love this :)

He was great in Cheese in the Trap, I will definitely look out for him ❤

I think it's that mysterious aura surrounding him that keeps her wanting to find out who he truly is. The more she is around him, the more she sees that he is misunderstood, not only by her, but by so many people. I think she connects him with him on that level, because she also felt "different' through out her life. And aside from this, she is attracted to him. When you meet someone who you feel resembles you, yet is suffering, you want to embrace this person. ❤

At least that's what i feel :)

and lol about her ending up with Joo Yong, I think it would be better to end up with Sangchul since he is the one in need of help in his school work :P

❤ :D

You were one of the first people here to analyze and provide criticism to Seol's character :). I'm glad that she is coming to terms with understanding her own faults, and develop more as a character.

I hear dentistry is too :D

Yes agree 100%, I try to remember this as I go, I know I've made that mistake too. I would hate to ruin this great drama for someone who just started it. Thanks for the reminder chingu :)

I also think he would be a great vampire :) that character from "Orange marmalade" was one of my favorites :)

@paintedblues @Smiley_Kitty I also liked this different explanation on InHo's character. I like how many people can discuss one character in this drama, and all come out with different conclusions :)

@rainecat I also liked some of Jon G's comments too :)

Lol I think you would've made a great psychiatrist chingu..there is still hope :D

Aww really? I'm glad you LOVED it too :)

"In Ho is flawed and those flaws rarely get discussed. Jung wasn’t the point.

In Ho ran his mouth and didn’t care who heard or the weight/consequences of his words. This is the flat out truth. This is his personality, and it took his hand being broken to consider other people’s feelings. I find it ironic that Jung was more sensitive to people’s feelings as teenagers before he felt In Ho betrayed him (when he tells In Ho to stop downing Piano Guy or lets In Ho know he shouldn’t have made In Ha feel bad about her art no matter how untalented In Ho thinks she is) than In Ho ever was, when the audience praises the latter for being empathetic.

Of course In Ho DIDN’T deserve to get beaten for and Jung walking away was cruel but let’s be realistic here…In Ho and his lack of filter were eventually gonna get him in trouble and he was going to suffer the consequences of being inconsiderate and arrogant. People forget that cruel words (and I’m referring to words In Ho said to others, not Jung) are also a form of bullying.

You do not have to whitewash one character to make the other worse. Some people are trying to understand Jung, who does have obvious issues. That doesn’t have to be said 500 times. The show DEMONSTRATES Jung has issues, we don’t have to mention it, but I can sure as heck try to understand his pov. I would go as far to say the drama is trying to get you to understand his pov, rather than justify his behavior. These are two different things that some people can’t wrap their minds around and I’m not sure why. You do NOT have to excuse a character’s actions to sympathize with their feelings.

No one victim blamed, but sadly our actions and words have consequences that sometimes are out of our control when you’ve hurt others. Does anyone actually believe you can run your mouth to anyone and everyone and not eventually get a reaction (often violent considering most people) out of the wrong person? Because that’s foolish imo. Jung should suffer consequences too, and he has, and probably will continue to."

-written by "kk"

Lol leave it to webmd for the long diagnosis :)

I ACTUALLY see your point of view and agree wholeheartedly. I guess we tend to overlook his empathetic tendencies (caring about others feelings and emotions back in high school) and giving him the worst possible diagnosis because he started training himself to not care anymore.

@Domo ditto, couldn't have said it better myself chingu. He was endearing even though he was an antagonist, he made us try to understand his own twisted ways, and what made him do the things he did.

@Domo I like this " In fact most psychopaths are actually highly functional people - in many cases, more so than your average person as what they lack in emotional - they make up for "logically" I guess now the only thing we can await is to hear the full story about Yoojung being strange for his father, and what made him seek a psychotherapist for his son?

lol I was surprised too, to read in on dramabeans. I think the subs are the same in most sites, and that is what caused the confusion. :)

I assumed that his mother died when he was younger, didn't think she also lacked motherly affections towards her only son. How incredibly sad.

I would like to believe he is neither, believe me :). I guess my problem always lies with him not "reacting" fast enough. That dialogue with eun taek, when Bora asked him if he was the boyfriend what would he have done..? And Eun Taek said I would run quickly and beat this stalker...etc.. (I think that is defined as normal behavior)

I just saw similarities between Yoojung as a character and the description above, and wondered if the writer had this in mind? if she actually wanted to write a complex character, who also happens to be displaying psychopathic tendencies.