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In fact, it was not you who did not follow the unwritten rules, it was these unwritten rules that betrayed the ideas behind XFX.

As I mentioned, I have liked XZ since 2018, but I became an active fan at the beginning of 227 and created an account on MDL to fight fake news. The reason for the scale of 227 was simple – the hatred from all sides towards Xiao Fei Xia, who were a disgustingly arrogant and loud group insulting everyone. (And, unfortunately, these were the new fans who appeared with The Untamed, because his fans from the pre-X-Nine era were one of the sweetest fan groups in the world, supporting him without harming others, so effectively that thanks to their positive support, he got into X-Nine.) The unprecedented attack on the actor led to deep self-reflection, and XFX adopted the principle of the 'three views' conveyed by XZ.

XFX became an exemplary fan club that could laugh at XZ, criticize him, and support him despite everything so much that he could back in the position of a star. Those times are gone, and new fans do not understand that supporting an actor is not about being completely uncritical, but about kind criticism, because only constructive criticism helps us grow. XZ has nothing against such criticism; he has always taken it to heart to become better at what he does.

During 227, fans did not treat him as an infallible god but as a valuable, flawed human being who gave his all to grow. Perfection cannot develop because it is already perfect. If we deem someone perfect, we take away their opportunity for growth and self-realization.

So even if I or anyone else were to criticize XZ or another actor, as long as I or they do not use vulgar words, curses, or insults, no one should use them against us or try to expel us from a public forum dedicated to a production (or actor) that is not private property of any actor's fans.

A drama/film is the work of hundreds of people, and anyone interested in the drama/film, for any reason, has the right to express their opinion. Fans too, but their personal attacks are essentially hatred and a return to the worst side of being a fan, which XZ has always condemned and fought against, repeatedly asking fans to respect the opinions of others, even if they are unpleasant for them.

Thank you, you are the first person who could read something more than “XZ is my problem” in my comment, or at least the first to let me know about it. So if you have the patience and willingness, I'll explain.

I fell in love with XZ's acting while watching Fights Break Sphere (2018) in late 2018. It was my second C-drama after dozens of K-dramas and J-dramas. I knew nothing about C-ent and this drama, actually Lin Xiu Ya, delighted me. Not because of his pretty face, but because of his whole presence. It stood out because it was real. He wasn't acted, he was real, natural. My other drama with XZ was The Untamed, watched after dozens of dramas where the actors are wood. Almost everyone loved XZ as WWX - he was phenomenal. It wasn't a perfectly acted role, but that was its charm. WWX was not played, he was real. He stood out from other characters, too wooden or played almost caricatured because the actors were trying too hard. And that's what the acting style in China looks like to me - wooden or exaggerated. XZ has always, in every one of his old dramas, stood out from theirs with his naturalness (gosh, I lobe Ji Chong an Yan Bing Yun!). At some point it started to bother me. It's not because XZ acts badly - it's because I would like all of C-ent to act like him. But so far it is not, so he stands out like a badly hammered nail. It introduces a certain artistic dissonance.

What's with my reference to Marlon Brando? If any of you have seen the old movies, they are played theatrically. The actors are exaggerated, unnatural in their behavior. That was the style at the time. The role of Marlon Brando I mentioned above is considered groundbreaking in Western film circles, because he was the first to not play his part, he embodied his character by making it natural, real - exactly how XZ plays. All you had to do was check on the Internet, or ask, as you did, to know that I was comparing XZ to an actor who changed the face of acting forever. It was enough to check, or ask, but no, XZ fans attacked like a mindless herd turning into mindless haters. But some are so clueless that they can't tell the difference between an opinion on a trailer and an opinion on a movie. They can't distinguish between criticism of a poorly executed element in the film/trailer (e.g., a CGI scene) and criticism of an actor they worship. For Chulak's sake (that's from “Stargate SG-1”), just because someone noticed poorly done CGI in a one-minute trailer for a movie doesn't mean they hate the whole movie just because an actor is playing there.

There are actors I heartily loathe and don't watch anything with them, but you won't see me on the forums of those actors or dramas. I only criticize what I have watched and in which there was something to criticize. Because I don't mindlessly accept as 10/10 everything in which a particular actor plays. I see when the wall of a supposedly stone cave trembles under an actor's touch. I hear when the music totally takes me out of the mood of the scene. And I will never apologize for seeing when an actor is so artificially placed in CGI that it beats the eyes like in the twenty-third second of that wretched trailer. And I don't care if there is worse CGI in other films, because here I am judging this production and demanding the best from it. And if in the eyes of the actor's silly fans this is an insult - well, their parents didn't raise them, the school didn't raise them, and I'm not going to raise them either.

Immeasurably, whatever convinced you to do so. And since a written comment can't fully convey intentions then for those who haven't guessed this comment is ironic :)

I decided not to argue with you, it's not worth it. You have the opinion about me that you have, you like to draw such and not other conclusions - your business. If you always and everywhere see attacks on your beloved Xiao Zhan, then I am sorry for you. I forgive you for calling me a hater without understanding my words or trying to understand them - according to you, I am was and will always be Xiao Zhan's enemy - if such thinking makes you happy, ok, I accept it. Well then, happy Christmas, Hanukkah or whatever you celebrate, or just have a nice day. I accept your overbearing of me, maybe you will someday understand that rashly jumping to conclusions and publicly calling someone a hater is a form of online violence, and in a few years you will be ashamed. In any case, happy life!

I said it clearly - in this trailer there is good CGI and there is bad CGI and Xiao Zhan stands apart from the rest in terms of acting just as Marlon Brando stood apart from the rest in a groundbreaking role for the entire acting style. Like Brando Xiao plays very naturally, which is in stark contrast to the current style of acting in China. I don't understand what is unclear here that I have to repeat the same thing.

„Why don't you wait to see the film so that you can give a broader review and you can clarify whether the protagonist's performance is as bad as you say?” My dear, could you kindly point out where exactly I said the protagonist's performance is bad? Let me clarify for you: it is not the protagonist who performs but the actor. Since I can tell the difference, I would hardly make the absurd claim you’re attributing to me.

What is amusing, however, is the eagerness of certain individuals to feel offended on behalf of their idol and, in doing so, completely misinterpret my words. This overzealousness leads to accusations and melodramatic leaps in logic, as seen in your comment.

It’s also quite funny that while praising the film, you still insist I criticized the actor – oh, I’m sorry, in your words, 'the protagonist.'

And since you seem so fond of giving unsolicited advice, let me quote someone you might know: “If the slightest criticism of your comment bothers you, then you know what to do.” :)

My, how sharp. I normally murdered your mother, or what? So immediately on the knives with me? Oh, why? And it didn't occur to you that having no production photos, no trailer, just nothing, I couldn't imagine it? Really everything is for you in the criteria of “either you idolize or hate”? There really isn't a zone in you where a person can judge the quality of a production because of the production and not whether a famous actor plays there? I couldn't imagine Tsui Hark making this movie and in your eyes this is a crime? Oh, sensitive being, I dread to think what will happen when your parents stop supporting you and you have to enter the adult world, where people don't play to adore or hate actors, only to the quality of the production. But that's not my problem :)

My dear, before you start accusing me of anything, educate yourself in the area of film culture, maybe do a little reaserch, and only then throw accusations. If you think that comparing Xiao Zhan to Marlon Brando is an insult to XZ, you'd better think about what you're saying and don't make an idiot of yourself.

And as for special effects, do you mean practical effects or CGI? Because if you claim that it has less CGI than other productions, then wait for the whole movie and only then comment, because it may turn out that there is more than you think :)

And anyway, why write warnings when there will still be a group of oversensitive people who have no idea what they are offended about, but get offended because it is in fashion. Well, such times.

If even the slightest criticism of the film/trailer offends you, for your own good don't read my comment.

For such a high-profile and supposedly prestigious production, I hoped that there would be no clumsy CGI, but there is, unfortunately. I watched the trailer in very good and in very bad quality and there are scenes where you can see the shoddiness. But there are also scenes that are very pleasing to the eye. In general, my biggest problem is Xiao Zhan, because his acting style is too far from that present in Chinese productions. He is like Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire.

No, for me it was 1/10. But I don't have problems with those who like it.

You are right, because people like cringe dramas this drama has such high ratings :)

I watched the first few episodes and it didn't click with me. The drama is about a police officer who has been drugged, loses his gun and becomes the heir to his friend who betrayed him in high school and has now committed suicide/has been murdered - the investigation is supposed to show this. Despite my great sympathy for Ji Sung, I found his character antipathetic from the beginning and disliked him more with each episode. There was no one here whom I had even the slightest sympathy for. That's why I dropped it. I came across this forum because the drama has high ratings and I was wondering if it might be worth it after all, but I'm unlikely to wach it. My problem is that ML does everything wrong. I don't like cops who are cowards and can't take responsibility for their actions, and that's the kind of cop our ML is in the first episodes. Whether he has changed, I don't know, I don't care. But since the ratings are so high, maybe you should try a few episodes and judge for yourself?

It's really a shame about the untapped potential :(

No.

Because people have different tastes and see things differently when watching something. One person may see a brilliant script, another will giggle at its naiveté, all the plot holes and convenient coincidences, and yet another will be annoyed by them. Some pay attention to the artistry of the actors, others are all the same, or they like the actor/actress so much that they don't notice their mistakes or just laziness. For some, the character will be written well and intriguing, for others it will be another generic ML. This is true of any production, and it doesn't mean that someone has bad taste and someone else has good taste, it's just that these tastes are different and both parties, both likes and dislikes of a drama, have the right to express their opinion through stars, comments, etc. So if you like a drama and others don't, don't worry about it. Surely there are dramas that you think are terrible, and there were people who praised it a lot and wondered why such a low rating. And if you haven't had such a situation yet - I assure you that there will be :)

:-)

This drama happened a long time ago for me. Forgive me for not remembering exactly what I felt, thought and what expectations I had for the drama, which I judged based on impressions on the fly and had no more interest in. Sorry, I can't help you. So I'll just say in very general terms that yes, probably expectations and disappointment had a big impact on my rating. I always expect a good script, good execution and good entertainment. If I don't get that, I don't hesitate to be critical. If viewers always only praise, the quality of productions will go down, not up, because producers will think that the viewer is not demanding. I am. I didn't rate the drama at 1/10, which is to say that I recognize its visual value and there were probably a few interesting scenes, but apparently not enough for me. This drama tired me instead of entertaining me, bored me instead of interesting me, if I expected to be entertained, I actually rated it in terms of my disappointed expectations.

You're welcome :)

Ok, so, you're welcome?

Not for me. On the contrary, it gets worse. I appreciate the idea, I really do, but there is so much energy in this drama that I fell asleep on every episode. Sure, it's just my personal feelings, but I really sleep very well on it.