You said these so well!! πThere was no hesitation when asked if she want to marry Ye Shiqi... And she never…
The crystal ball was a farewell. But if you think that is a first step, then Xiangliu failed to take the next step. Either way, one of them did not love enough.
You are just unhappy that Xiang Liu recived more love. Most people here didn't even watch Chi Chen story. Also…
Its well known that Tan Jianci has bigger backers who invested in the LYF project. I have no issues with him. He has talent and worked hard in his career. Anyone can see that his promotional materials are higher quality than even the leads. What I am unhappy about is, they added scenes for the sake of giving fanservice, and it weakened Xiangliu's character in the drama for me.
Xiangliu was supposed to have direct access to Xiaoyao's heart via the couple bug. As you said, he can sense that Xiaoyao has not been over Tushan Jing over the decades. Maybe that is the reason he won't risk his heart to try to confess directly to her. Even when he was using his demon powers, he did not dare to ask her directly, "Do you want to marry Fangfeng Bei?"
I don't think Xiaoyao is being fickle with her feelings. She has always been sincere towards all the men, and how she treated them was like her family, her lover and her best friend. She was also learning what it means to love, how to be the one to dare to take that first step into unknown territory... As many people have pointed out, she got alot of emotional baggage to work out.
The whole point of the story that the author has emphasized is, in all relationships, someone has to take the first step.
I am not saying Xiangliu should give Xiaoyao his all when she didn't love him as much at all? Why do you have that impression? At least you can see that Xiaoyao didn't love him enough too, unlike some others who claim that Xiangliu is her 'true love'.
You said these so well!! πThere was no hesitation when asked if she want to marry Ye Shiqi... And she never…
I just feel that after that scene of waiting for her 'love' to come pick her up, Xiaoyao was still unwilling to take the first step towards Xiangliu. Even if she wears white or red, the message was the same. She was only waiting for destiny to happen.
At Fenglong's wedding, once again Xiaoyao was only looking towards Tushan Jing. In the novel, she was thinking about him, which drama sadly never included any of her inner thoughts. She wondered why he looked sick etc not once did she look for Fangfeng Bei.
So in my mind, Xiaoyao only ever wanted Tushan Jing. So why she didn't marry him right away, that is something only she knows lol
I don't think I was assuming anything but commenting on what was happening. And its okay that we cannot see eye to eye.
HAHAHAHAHA...lets not do a Jing vs Liu argument again. Only XY gets to decide. ππππππππππ
Which is why I always say, for a relationship to work out, it really needs two people to be open with each other and work at it, with all information available to them. Tushan Jing also nearly gave up on Xiaoyao since he thought she was over him long ago.
Xiaoyao does not like a love based on 'gratitude', because being thankful for what someone else did for them, makes that feeling of being 'owed' and the love seems more like a repayment instead of based on well, feelings. Thats why she checked with Tushan Jing why he is so good to her - if it was because he wanted to pay her back, she would rather turn him down.
I think Xiangliu didn't want that kind of love either which is why he was willing to do so much for her, but he didn't want her to be burdened by that knowledge.
But isn't what you're praising for TSJ the same thing for XL? Freaking guy gave up 3 of his nine lives to save…
Xiangliu used up two lives to kill the bugs but he needed his heart to be alive. Everyone only has one heart.
Even figuratively, I meant that Xiangliu kept his heart for himself, because he made his own choice to choose his foster father, or his own 'family of soldiers' that he adopted over the centuries.
I don't doubt that Xiangliu did love Xiaoyao in his own way, and Xiaoyao had feelings for him. I just don't buy into that whole 'star-crossed lovers' thing some fans keep trying to push.
You said these so well!! πThere was no hesitation when asked if she want to marry Ye Shiqi... And she never…
In her mind at the time, Xiaoyao already saw no future with TSJ since he was married with child and she cannot accept it. But yes as you said, she was struggling because her heart still wanted TSJ. She was devastated every time she thought that they would have nothing to do with each other anymore. So she cannot reply yes but she did not reply no. Ye Shiqi is different, he has no clan to be responsible for, he was 'free'.
I looked into your 43 year plot point, and actually are you aware that for the 27 years the Haoling war was happening? Xiaoyao loves her father and would have wanted him at her wedding so how could she just marry without him?
After that in the next 15 years... she continued to compile the medical books from Haoling to combine with Xiyan records after the two countries combined.
Xiaoyao waited more than 15 years for Tushan Jing to give her back a Ye Shiqi, so it made sense that she can take that little time for herself to work on the biggest project in her life that will benefit everyone in the entire world.
You keep suggesting that she delayed because she was reluctant to marry TSJ, yet you also say she was not waiting for Xiangliu. Anyway I really don't see why that wait would really mean anything negative for the couple.
HAHAHAHAHA...lets not do a Jing vs Liu argument again. Only XY gets to decide. ππππππππππ
My post is not really arguing who is better for Xiaoyao. Its not a matter of choosing her husband based on merits and what they did for her. As you said, ultimately girl has to follow her own heart.
Who is she going to take that step towards, to walk into an unknown future and rely on in life's path? π
You are just unhappy that Xiang Liu recived more love. Most people here didn't even watch Chi Chen story. Also…
Xiangliu received more love from the tencent production company lol Not from Xiaoyao.
I am saying this to the people who know Chichen story and claimed that Xiangliu is his 'parallel'. When he is not.
I don't think Xiangliu don't understand feeling. Aren't you being too harsh about him? Yes Xiangliu also learning what it means to put himself out there and love someone else. So I am just pointing out that in the end, he chose his own 'side'. Am I wrong?
My discussion point is how different the two men are and the way both men chose to love another person.
Why did you get the impression that I wanted Xiangliu to choose Xiaoyao? As you said, she never proved to love him enough either. Just because he is a demon, he also deserve a sincere heart. I am just sorry he won't give himself the chance, because he already devoted his life purpose to another cause.
I agree with almost everything you said except when you called Jing 'weak' and 'soft'. If he was 'hard' man like…
I hear what you are saying. π Its not that he didn't stand up for himself, because what else could he do? He was betrayed by his own closest kin and abandoned by the one he thought he could count on.
Xiaoyao would acknowledge in the novel that both of them made mistakes in their relationship because it was the 'first time' either of them fell for another person. They are both learning how to love.
Nobody is perfect in LYF. If Jing was so perfect, then there really is not much story to go on, because who won't be able to fall in love a perfect man? To love someone is to accept their faults and both are willing to work it out... that is growth for the characters and we also get to enjoy their angst and suffering while we watch the drama... hehe
After S2 E5 I hope nobody will compare Xiangliu to Chichen anymore. Chichen beats him hands down any day, in terms of love and commitment to his beloved.
The only things those two men have in common are 1)they both fight for the Chenrong army - though when Chichen was fighting, he still had a country, whereas Xiangliu was now fighting for a 'conviction'. 2) They both love women from the 'opposite' side
When it comes down to it, Chichen gave his heart without reserve to A Heng. There was no doubt he chose her over his country. He tried to give her whatever he had, even though their future was uncertain, she was the one who faltered.
Xiangliu is depicted as loving Xiaoyao so much but when it came down to it, he still can't do it. Whether he can't give up because of his loyalty to Hong jiang or his own aspirations, he did not choose Xiaoyao. If he had picked her up before the 7 days was up, both of them could have just disappeared together on the vast sea, to all the sea islands that was out there.
We won't know if they would eventually end up being a good long term match, but what we clearly have now is a 'love' where neither of them would even take the first step towards the other. Not much of an epic love in my book.
When it comes to loving without reservations, Tushan Jing's quiet way to love and watch over Xiaoyao is the one that can match the passion of his father-in-law. They will live and die for the women they love.
That Ru Shou is as wily as they come, I wonder if he got fox in his blood LOOOLThe way he ' oh I am coming down…
But pls spare Ru Shou ... he will die HAHAHHAHAAH Ah Nian fell for Cangxuan too long ago and she won't change her mind. She and Rushou are the true bickering cousins π
"In every corner of this earthly realm, it's loneliness it's self-pity" Thought it's for XL, but now it explains…
I agree with almost everything you said except when you called Jing 'weak' and 'soft'. If he was 'hard' man like you prefer, Xiaoyao won't like him anyway.
What is perceived as weakness is kindness, and inaction is actually generosity towards others. He didn't turn the other cheek, but he just didn't choose to slap back. Its all part of his kind nature, which people tend to take advantage of.
I was thinking about this: when you ask from some people why you don't like Jing, They always say I like him when…
You said these so well!! π
There was no hesitation when asked if she want to marry Ye Shiqi... And she never said she won't marry Tushan Jing. She just struggled with herself because in her mind, they are not possible to be together anymore. He was no longer an option for her.
Sighs...I think Jing cannot remember maybe because FFYY knocked him out? I don't think that Bish will allow him…
hahahahah don't they say people find out the truth after they die... I can just console myself that granny will have a fit knowing she helped that treacherous pair scam her own precious grandson lol
They made me cry so hard with the ending of ep6. The memories of the old good times they all spend together as…
Totally!! You nailed down Xiaoyao's fears so well. She even promised Lao Mu she would be there to send him off, but she could not keep her promise. Xiaoyao was an escapist for the longest time, until Sang Tian er finally gave her the epiphany she needed.
Either way, one of them did not love enough.
What are they really watching?
Anyone can see that his promotional materials are higher quality than even the leads.
What I am unhappy about is, they added scenes for the sake of giving fanservice, and it weakened Xiangliu's character in the drama for me.
Xiangliu was supposed to have direct access to Xiaoyao's heart via the couple bug. As you said, he can sense that Xiaoyao has not been over Tushan Jing over the decades. Maybe that is the reason he won't risk his heart to try to confess directly to her.
Even when he was using his demon powers, he did not dare to ask her directly, "Do you want to marry Fangfeng Bei?"
I don't think Xiaoyao is being fickle with her feelings. She has always been sincere towards all the men, and how she treated them was like her family, her lover and her best friend. She was also learning what it means to love, how to be the one to dare to take that first step into unknown territory... As many people have pointed out, she got alot of emotional baggage to work out.
The whole point of the story that the author has emphasized is, in all relationships, someone has to take the first step.
I am not saying Xiangliu should give Xiaoyao his all when she didn't love him as much at all? Why do you have that impression?
At least you can see that Xiaoyao didn't love him enough too, unlike some others who claim that Xiangliu is her 'true love'.
Even if she wears white or red, the message was the same.
She was only waiting for destiny to happen.
At Fenglong's wedding, once again Xiaoyao was only looking towards Tushan Jing. In the novel, she was thinking about him, which drama sadly never included any of her inner thoughts. She wondered why he looked sick etc not once did she look for Fangfeng Bei.
So in my mind, Xiaoyao only ever wanted Tushan Jing. So why she didn't marry him right away, that is something only she knows lol
I don't think I was assuming anything but commenting on what was happening. And its okay that we cannot see eye to eye.
Xiaoyao does not like a love based on 'gratitude', because being thankful for what someone else did for them, makes that feeling of being 'owed' and the love seems more like a repayment instead of based on well, feelings. Thats why she checked with Tushan Jing why he is so good to her - if it was because he wanted to pay her back, she would rather turn him down.
I think Xiangliu didn't want that kind of love either which is why he was willing to do so much for her, but he didn't want her to be burdened by that knowledge.
Even figuratively, I meant that Xiangliu kept his heart for himself, because he made his own choice to choose his foster father, or his own 'family of soldiers' that he adopted over the centuries.
I don't doubt that Xiangliu did love Xiaoyao in his own way, and Xiaoyao had feelings for him. I just don't buy into that whole 'star-crossed lovers' thing some fans keep trying to push.
Ye Shiqi is different, he has no clan to be responsible for, he was 'free'.
I looked into your 43 year plot point, and actually are you aware that for the 27 years the Haoling war was happening?
Xiaoyao loves her father and would have wanted him at her wedding so how could she just marry without him?
After that in the next 15 years... she continued to compile the medical books from Haoling to combine with Xiyan records after the two countries combined.
Xiaoyao waited more than 15 years for Tushan Jing to give her back a Ye Shiqi, so it made sense that she can take that little time for herself to work on the biggest project in her life that will benefit everyone in the entire world.
You keep suggesting that she delayed because she was reluctant to marry TSJ, yet you also say she was not waiting for Xiangliu.
Anyway I really don't see why that wait would really mean anything negative for the couple.
Its not a matter of choosing her husband based on merits and what they did for her. As you said, ultimately girl has to follow her own heart.
Who is she going to take that step towards, to walk into an unknown future and rely on in life's path? π
Not from Xiaoyao.
I am saying this to the people who know Chichen story and claimed that Xiangliu is his 'parallel'. When he is not.
I don't think Xiangliu don't understand feeling. Aren't you being too harsh about him? Yes Xiangliu also learning what it means to put himself out there and love someone else. So I am just pointing out that in the end, he chose his own 'side'.
Am I wrong?
My discussion point is how different the two men are and the way both men chose to love another person.
Why did you get the impression that I wanted Xiangliu to choose Xiaoyao?
As you said, she never proved to love him enough either. Just because he is a demon, he also deserve a sincere heart. I am just sorry he won't give himself the chance, because he already devoted his life purpose to another cause.
Their last push to milk the LYF cash cow.
Its not that he didn't stand up for himself, because what else could he do? He was betrayed by his own closest kin and abandoned by the one he thought he could count on.
Xiaoyao would acknowledge in the novel that both of them made mistakes in their relationship because it was the 'first time' either of them fell for another person. They are both learning how to love.
Nobody is perfect in LYF. If Jing was so perfect, then there really is not much story to go on, because who won't be able to fall in love a perfect man? To love someone is to accept their faults and both are willing to work it out... that is growth for the characters and we also get to enjoy their angst and suffering while we watch the drama... hehe
Chichen beats him hands down any day, in terms of love and commitment to his beloved.
The only things those two men have in common are
1)they both fight for the Chenrong army - though when Chichen was fighting, he still had a country, whereas Xiangliu was now fighting for a 'conviction'.
2) They both love women from the 'opposite' side
When it comes down to it, Chichen gave his heart without reserve to A Heng. There was no doubt he chose her over his country. He tried to give her whatever he had, even though their future was uncertain, she was the one who faltered.
Xiangliu is depicted as loving Xiaoyao so much but when it came down to it, he still can't do it.
Whether he can't give up because of his loyalty to Hong jiang or his own aspirations, he did not choose Xiaoyao. If he had picked her up before the 7 days was up, both of them could have just disappeared together on the vast sea, to all the sea islands that was out there.
We won't know if they would eventually end up being a good long term match, but what we clearly have now is a 'love' where neither of them would even take the first step towards the other.
Not much of an epic love in my book.
When it comes to loving without reservations, Tushan Jing's quiet way to love and watch over Xiaoyao is the one that can match the passion of his father-in-law.
They will live and die for the women they love.
Ah Nian fell for Cangxuan too long ago and she won't change her mind. She and Rushou are the true bickering cousins π
If he was 'hard' man like you prefer, Xiaoyao won't like him anyway.
What is perceived as weakness is kindness, and inaction is actually generosity towards others.
He didn't turn the other cheek, but he just didn't choose to slap back.
Its all part of his kind nature, which people tend to take advantage of.
There was no hesitation when asked if she want to marry Ye Shiqi...
And she never said she won't marry Tushan Jing. She just struggled with herself because in her mind, they are not possible to be together anymore. He was no longer an option for her.
I can just console myself that granny will have a fit knowing she helped that treacherous pair scam her own precious grandson lol
She even promised Lao Mu she would be there to send him off, but she could not keep her promise.
Xiaoyao was an escapist for the longest time, until Sang Tian er finally gave her the epiphany she needed.