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the thing is, they were extremely consistent up till episode 7. But episode 7 flipped it so bad... If it's a bit different from the novel, they should just keep the changes, bot try to "go back on track" half way through the show, when the characters were already established as something different than it was in the novel. That said, I have noooo idea how they are in the novel since I did not read it.

Yeah, the Tutor scene frustrated me far less. It alone was fine, it;s just with what kind of scenes were "surrounding" it, it felt off. Especially the confession scene. I was just so ready for Tutor confession his feelings in a straightforward manner, with how blant and straightforward he was so far with Fighter (with all the times he called him out. It just felt for me more like Tutor was guiding and helping Fighter understand his feelings with all the questioning like "you do like guys?" "do you know what you are doing right now").

Ah and one segment made me think it was more of Tutor being unsure rather than asking about Fighter feelings for him with the sister scene (and it was not his line lol). When he ask what the kiss mean and she started to explain all the reason someone can kiss another person... it was all cool (especially how she started with teasing lol), but she went with if you think about the kiss all the time after it happened it might mean you love the person (something along the lines) and this would be useful information ONLY for Tutor to figure out HIS feelings, since he has no idea if Fighter was thinking about the kiss after it happened... But yeah overall you are right. One can easily interpret it as him just searching for approval from his sister. It was just phrased at times in a weird way, tho it might be the fault of translation.

Oh ps. unrelated to tutor and fighter, but when the sister said he needs to step away from what society think it's norm and she gave "age" as an example I was like: honey... some things are just illegal and should stay that way for a reason hahahaha

Zon and Saifah won my heart in that ep. They were the cutest and funniest little babies ever.

Also that's my whole point, he was sure of his feeling, but unsure of Fighters. But the made it seem like (in ep 7) that he was confused about himself not the other. And what the sister said in all scene was cool, just the guys reaction was not fitting with how they were written previously.

And yes the whole "you cannot watch that person more than 10 seconds if you like them" when they were literally looking into each other eyes for more than 10 seconds as Tutor was talking. + the slowest seconds ever.

I don't know. The scene was so cute, but if felt like I am watching totally different characters than I did in previous 6 episodes. That's why I'm a bit annoyed. Coz the characterization was soooo goood so far :(

Okay, so here I am again, this time with a bit of frustration. I have not read the novel so everything I am saying is based on what they have shown in the show.

I feel robbed lol I got truly attached to the characters of Fighter and Tutor and was literally talking to everyone about how well acted, written and directed their relationship is. And then episode 7 happened and I am confused coz it makes no sense.

Whole Tutor's presence led me and many others to conclusion that the confusion and unsureness on his part is not about his own feelings and emotions, but the situation he is in with Fighter. There were many scenes that hinted his "strong stand" and the fact he knows he likes Fighter. So the whole conversation with his sister when he is out of a blue confused? Why did this happen? IF he is suppose to be confused from the get go, then they did extremely bad job presenting that. OR they just felt like they have to move forward and Fighter needs to have chance to confess his feelings, so they felt like Tutor has to become more passive. Which is bull****.

With Fighter... dude was not aware of his feelings lol It annoys me how last episode he was still in a huge panic mode and this episode without much of a reason he is the one leading the whole romance. There wasn't any moment in the episode that could have change his character and stand on the whole situation so quick. The whole Tutor and Fighter situation could have been easily fixed without changing that much in the process of directing.

The sister talk? Make it a coming out scene instead of Tutor asking about his feelings and confirmation it is love. Make him describe Fighter and ask why he was doing it in the sister's eyes. and when the sister asks if the girl has crush on him, then Tutor can go on with "it's a boy" and we progress to the coming out emotional scene. We still have cohesive view on who Tutor is as a character, what are his fears and motivations and with what his sister said, he could gain the courage to go for it with Fighter. Since he wasn't confused about himself, but about Fighter.

The sister talk pt.2 with Fighter. Lead it the way that will show Fighter is still not sure about anything. Make the sister "nonchalantly" but with premeditation talk about how love is just love. Casual talk but specific for Fighter's situation. Let her spill the tea that Tutor likes him. But don't make it whole "take care of my brother" like they are already in a relationship, their feelings are clear as day and we are all happy here. Both dudes were confused just few days ago.

The confession scene... don't even make me start on it. I was sooooo ready for Tutor to go full confession coz he gain the courage thanks to his sister's words. Make that confession THE breaking point for Fighter to give in. Let Tutor confess he likes him, Fighter, the pure confused boi he is gets speechless and frozen in place not answering, and then follow with everything that actually happened: Tutor backing off and that's when Fighter "wakes up" from the daze and kisses him just the way it was show. Don;t give me some bullshit of Fighter always knowing he had feelings for Tutor, and Tutor was the one confused the whole time, when all the previous episodes showed us the exact opposite.

Now I feel like I gave the show too much credit for amazingly built characters with depth... coz they switched it up so bad in 7th. Like no matter how I think about it, I don't see coherent image anymore :(

Done with the rant, still love the show.

The first part, what you said makes so much sense. Like I did think and analyze these characters quite a bit, and what happened and what they said in 7th ep was so out there and confusing coz it didn't think how the characters were presented so far. Fighter knowing he likes Tutor from the start was such a joke. Like I can kind of explain it as him bullshitting to sound more romantic but that does not fir his character too lol

As for editing, yeah... compared to their previous scenes this was far weaker. I don't know. Overall this episode kind of disappointing in terms of tutor and Fighter for me :(

Just so you know I will address a spoiler from the novel in the comment.
I really appreciate the fact Sarawat denied there was anything going on between him and Tine in the first scene with fans. Tine thought it was because he didn't want to lose fans, when I think he didn't want to be an asshole and use the situation they are in to get closer to Tine. He knows Green doesn't like him, so him making it a public statement that he hits on Tine would link them together and would be way harder for Tine to just quite the whole plan after Green "gives up". He didn't want to drag Tine into this mess for his selfish reasons. He agreed to help Tine but he didn't want to take advantage of the situation.
but yeah, I have not read the novel. All I know is Sarawat liked him since high school and Green does not like Tine lol So I might be wrong about everything here.

It is fun. I will try to make sense of all the stuff that happened in this episode coz at this point I am pretty confused about their characters lol

Okay but unless they will change what their have shown in previews and teasers it still makes no sense. Coz in these we see it's Tutor being unsure and asking Fighter is what they have is okay and about people reaction and he is comforting him...

At this point even I don't know lol Like right now the characters don't make much sense for me hahaha Coz if Fighter liked Tutor from the start and KNEW about it and accepted his feelings then why reject Tutor every time the boy actually made the move? Why panic like crazy every time Tutor asked him if he liked boys and denied it so strongly?
As for Tutor... also makes no sense. He acted all confident and in lead and now he talks with his sister and it seemed like he was not sure he is gay? And if it's okay to have these type of feelings and wanting to kiss another boy?
I had such a cohesive view on the characters so far, but with this ep I am just left confused hahaha I need to think about it a bit more hahahaa

I mean they are not 100% wrong, but the points I liked about the characters were kind of off according to the newest episode hahaha but whatever, it was still fun to write them, and the characters are still awesome as they are in the show hahaha

Well... all my in depth analysis of Tutor and Fighter can go to the trash now lol they flipped it all in 7th episode, even tho I like my understanding of the characters more, you can't have everything I guess hahaha That said the progress from "Prove to me" to "I can prove you" yaaaaaaas.
Zon and Saifah had my heart in part one. The scene was so amazingly cute and natural.

I JUST STARTED 3RD OF 2GETHER! Omg my heart is 100% not ready for both the eps. But who cares. At least I will die happy

wait, new up? 7th? or in extended scene?! I am not ready fot anything that is coming my way hahahaha

nah, I totally get what you mean and I agree. It was obvious from the start that Tutor likes guys. Not even for a second I thought he might be romantically interested in Hwahwa and his "moody" behavior was coz he was jealous of her. That's why when Fighter keeps asking Tutor if he liked Hwahwa, I felt it told us more about Fighter and his insecurities (that Tutor does not like him, that Tutor does not like guys) rather than hinting Tutor might have feelings for her.
So yeah, I agree. Tutor 100% gay, Fighter 100% panic gay, and both Zon and Saifah are bi kings :D

They look good with the lipstick so as far as I know they can keep it like that till the end of the drama

I mean it gives more depth to Tutor's character and makes it far more interesting. The fact he initiated it and then backed off. Like I want it, but also: this was a mistake.

this was interesting to watch, but omg I prefer the final take so much better. It's true that the "who initiate" the first kiss changes the whole dynamic. With Tutor being the one it makes the whole scene far more cohesive and in character in my eyes. It was such a smart choice to cut that short part off hahaha But for me it just shows that there is much thought put into the recording and editing to get the best result.

There were so many time jumps in 1st episode... like back to orientation, 5 month later, 6 month earlier... it was easy to confuse time line a bit in the first watch hahaha

Oh yes the plot is the most generic possible, but this is literally the first time I see it executed well. that's why I am not bored. I much rather have a generic story with few tweaks here and there executed well than most amazing and fresh idea executed poorly (why I disliked TT and UWMG, but omg I don't want to get into that lol). I'm just buying whatever Zee is selling with his acting. I love his portray of Fighter and how he shows all the motions and inner conflicts perfectly without overacting. I think, because I love his acting here so much, I am 100% biased towards the show and cannot really judge it objectively hahaha

they most likely are wearing lipstick.