Kelekat

The FL constantly does things that she knows she herself would be upset about had the ML done the same, then gets UPSET when it doesn't bother him that she's done it. Like, seriously??? She's seriously insensitive to others.

I'm starting to remember now why i liked it...I think. We'll see.

I agree! The shortness (to the point and in your face) of j-dramas is awesome.

OH MY GOD! Finally someone else who's said it on here. He's the spitting image of Suga, especially in this. There was something else I watched him in too and it was the same. SO Suga with SKINSHIP? Needless to say this is my third time watching it...or is it my 4th?? Don't remember a thing about the drama itself though LOL!

OMG!!!! I'm rewatching this now and am on ep 2 and I LITERALLY came on here to see if anyone has said anything about her KNOWINGLY allowing this first guy to be all over her without setting any boundaries or setting him straight. Like seriously, WTH?

For the life of me I can't figure out yet why I ended up rating this so high in the past. I'll keep watching to see if I can figure it out but I'm beginning to suspect myself of simply being weak. The ML looks like a Japanese version of Suga (BTS) so I'm pleading temporary ARMY insanity. LOL!

I LOVE that the first thing I see is this comment and that it's from you! How in hell?! You never let me down. I LOVE IT!

OHHH! You know what? I do know a bit about what you mean with German society (just a little). I don't know much about German culture (although, unlike Americans, I do know y'all have some bangin' government benefits lol) but I know you make a great point about this problem not being specific to just South Korea in current times.

For several years I worked for a huge German-owned global conglomerate and, while professionally I did well, that place almost broke me. That place left me very emotionally beaten. One day I literally just said I just stood up and walked out. I still don't think I really got it then as to why the morale there sucked ass so royally and seemed like it would never change. Not long after though, I went on to work for a Netherlands-based company which also happened to have a lot of Germans in upper-management. It was there that I learned about the difference between the German workforce and that of the rest of Europe. I learned from my peers that while the Netherlands and many other European countries pushed a more linear work environment - where everyone's input was seen to have equal value no matter their rank or role - that it was a known fact throughout Europe that the Germans tended to hold an extremely strict hierarchal environment. You basically speak when spoken to and don't step out of line. You do as you're told. You know your place and you stay there.

Is that kind of what you mean? I'm just relaying what I was told by speaking with my counterparts and am asking out of genuine curiosity.

I worked in the US home office of that other company but I believe something like 65% (possibly more) of my coworkers were actually expats from other countries here on visas. I myself am not originally from the US but I've lived here for more than half my life. I was told a lot about how crazy the German hierarchal structure was in the workplace. Until you posted this comment I'd never even thought beyond that to how that would translate into general German society. HOW do y'all do it?

Bear in mind as a black female there were many movies and shows that I had to avoid watching even as a child because, as I'd tell my parents, I wouldn't have lived for very long in the circumstances shown. They'd have killed my ass real quick because I'm far too rebellious. That's a fact. I also can't sit back and watch others be bullied so...yeah, wouldn't last long.

Why though? Why should anyone have to put up with it? That's my entire point. Does this exist everywhere? Never said it didn't. However, Korean culture tends to make those in an "inferior" position feel they're wrong to even stand up for themselves. THAT is a problem. THAT's what I find difficult to watch. I've literally watched hundreds of kdramas. I'm simply saying I'd love to be able to see that aspect of their society change and not continue to be treated as acceptable. I don't like watching good people being bullied. Period.

How that translates to me being privileged in some manner I'd love to know. Because I can tell you that I am not. Of course I've dealt with it in some form time and again. It's beaten me down thoroughly to be quite honest. Still doesn't make it any easier to watch others continue to be treated unfairly too, especially to the extent they constantly face.

All I've said is I'm tired of seeing people being treated poorly and using "culture" as an excuse to justify it. Maybe if that stopped there'd be far less suicides. If I'm wrong for thinking that way then so be it.

To clarify. I'm not bashing the culture. I'm also not saying only the poor in Korean society suffer. Furthermore, never did I say this shit doesn't happen everywhere in the world. However, even the Korean language has hierarchies. It's so ingrained in them that they must accept certain treatment or be seen as being disrespectful and out of line. I'm saying this constant subjugation of anyone in a lesser position (including people in high roles who still have to report to someone above them, or anyone of a younger age or with less experience than another that can be considered a "junior") being treated as normal and accepted is a problem. Both physical and emotional abuse is rampant. It's clearly a problem when you consider their exceptional suicide rate. So for those of you who wish to twist what I'm saying let me be clear - I HATE bullying of any form in any society. Therefore constantly watching how rampant it is in all aspects of Korean society has gotten difficult for me to watch over time. If I'm wrong for being tired of seeing it because I wish they'd treat one another better than I'll happily continue to be wrong.

With that said, I'm still enjoying the drama. I've avoided kdramas for the past few months and couldn't really figure out what my problem was but only in the first episode of this did I realize what it actually was that I'd been avoiding.

You are missing my point. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. I'm saying that in Korean culture it's treated as the norm and standard and ACCEPTABLE. However, you guys can choose to take my comments however you feel you need to. The fact is you don't blatantly see the things happening that are allowed and in your face and EXPECTED of you in other places. They expect those seemingly inferior to them to just take it. Just because someone is your senior or superior at work or any of it, doesn't make it okay for you to be treated as INFERIOR. If you all want to be blind about what I'm referring to then so be it.

I'm a black female living in America. Believe me when I say I know. LOL!

OMG! SOOOO TRUE! LOL!

You know, after watching so many Kdramas one thing that stands out to me is that Korean culture is structured around bullying and unfair treatment. It's in all aspect of their lives and interactions. That whole seniority thing and the constant grovelling they do at all levels. The power trips they have when they're in any sort of "superior" position - whether it be age, work experience, whatever it is. It's no wonder the suicide level is what it is and continues to be. I don't mean to bash a culture or society but I have to say it's literally the most unhealthy societal structure I can think of in modern day. The whole culture seems abusive. Like, 'treat others as you would have them treat you' should become a nationwide motto.

I only just started watching this (still on the first episode) but I finally realized my subconscious reason for avoiding kdramas in recent months despite them tending to consistently be the best written and directed of the entire asian drama industry.

I'm curious as to whether or not anyone else had the same understanding of this drama that I did so here's my viewpoint and theories:

That ending scene doesn't make sense. It seems intentionally ambiguous. They show her going on with her life after waking up from the accident, leaving him in the hospital on life support. No one seems to be grieving or anything. Just going about their lives. Then they randomly show him appear before her at their spot? They showed us which of the 'loops' was real, which actually did seem logical since, from the very beginning, I'd felt like it sounded more like she was the one who was about to be hit and he was yelling for her to watch out. Then when they were on the ground after the accident it seemed like he'd saved her (or at least they'd both been hit). So when they showed her recalling that version of events it made sense. The 'loops' after seem to be more of her mind trying to process everything that happened between them (shock) and stabilize so she could wake up.

Every single thing makes sense EXCEPT for that final scene. It doesn't fit.

I've read some other opinions on here but none that helps bridge that disconnect, logically. They're more like hypotheses than theories. It's literally the only aspect of the story that comes across as completely ambiguous for me.

I LOVE that you took the time to break this down (rather objectively it sounds like) for those of us still trying to decide if this is something we're interested in watching. You've actually made me MORE curious about it.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I was really, really enjoying this until I stopped liking the FL. She did too many things to make me want him to just leave her ass. So when he finally did I was all for it.

Him returning a year later based on absolutely NOTHING new happening between them makes ZERO sense. It's literally a happy ending just for the sake of being a happy ending. I'm a happy-ending kinda gal so for me to say the happy ending is what ruined it, that should tell you something.

It's not that I didn't want them to have their happy ending, but it needs to make sense. There needs to be a reason for the reconciliation. A year goes by with no communication whatsoever and not a single thing that happened in the past has been resolved. All the writers needed to do was give us a reason to prompt his return and the issue would be resolved. For example, they could have waited until then to let him see the picture at the end of the video she made on his phone to make him realize then that she was the little girl all along, and use THAT to prompt him to return to see her. Since they already used that to show how deep his hurt was by what had transpired on her birthday though, it made it even more ludicrous that he'd suddenly change his mind out of the blue to go see her a year later, based on absolutely nothing happening. You can't even say he just missed her because he could have come back sooner if that's the case. They could have even made it a case where, because he couldn't fully let go of her and was holding on to the last bit of hope that they stood a chance, he decided to return from the US to wait until the first snowfall to go see if she would show up too. Even that minor change could have made it impactful.

The way they ended this just ended up being ludicrous.

And I'm the one who needs to grow up. Puh-lease.

LOL!!! Your comment is the epitome of hypocritical. Soooo not worth wasting my time on this conversation. LMAOOOO!!!!

All I read was, "A movie shouldn't be made in a manner in which we are expected to read the original material." I had to stop and say that I couldn't agree more.

Not bad at all. I really enjoyed it! Highly recommended.