Dude, coming to a married woman’s husband’s family home to give her a bouquet of flowers, like he’s taking…
Yep, this is one that will make you grit your teeth to bare through the stupid stuff, while waiting for the cute alone time with the leads. That about sums up watching this drama. hahaha. 😆
I only deal in facts...not rants, gossip or flame wars.For those curious about what all the rants/flames about…
Well, with the current state of Korean entertainment, this man will *never* have a public career in South Korea, at least for the extended future. When merely bullying someone in middle school, or end a romantic relationship with your partner in a perceived callous and cold way can get you canceled, this man has done far worse, as to reputation than any other.
There may be no legality or laws that say you have to report a known crime, which, with the videos in the kakao chatrooms he saw were such, that's why you have 2 in prison for 8-10 yrs over it, Lee Jong Hyun was completely and utterly aware of it and what his 'friends' were participating in. He was supposed to be in the military "reflecting" on his behavior but was found to be hitting up female YouTubers in a sexually explicit way and in a manner that the females deemed unwanted. Again, with the current state of public scrutiny in South Korea, there are people being kicked off dramas etc for far less than this here.
As for why FNC haven't severed their contract with him, even though he is no longer a member of the band CNBLUE, is because:
1) he covered for Jung Yonghwa/FNC insider trading stock scandal back in 2016. In that, Yonghwa was investigated for making money off buying FNC stock then selling it at a higher price KNOWING that FNC was going to hire a big name celebrity. That's a no-no anywhere in the world. You cannot profit off of personal info you know about the company. Anyway, although Yonghwa made money they conveniently made it look as though he bought and sold BEFORE the knowing anything...while Lee Jong Hyun was fined by the South Korean govt for the same thing, but admitting that he KNEW about the celebrity when he bought the shares... the ONLY reason Jong Hyun didn't go to jail over this was because he KEPT the stock and was losing money when the stock prices dropped thus not profiting off the purchase. Jong Hyun STILL owns those FNC stocks... and we all know why...it's leverage for taking the fall for their more popular member of CNBLUE and entertainer Yonghwa &
2) Jonghyun has the inside info to blackmail them, AND still owns shares in FNC... So he's an OWNER of the company, no matter how little the amount of his shares... They're NEVER going to end his contract until FNC goes bankrupt and bought out by someone else, or closes its doors.
But let's all be clear here, maybe he could have a career in Japan, but he is NEVER going to have another chance in South Korea, period. K-netizens don't work that way, even if there are boice that still want him and support him.
Dude, coming to a married woman’s husband’s family home to give her a bouquet of flowers, like he’s taking…
There is a popular YouTuber who discusses and reviews and rates C-Dramas on her channel. She actually has a very HIGH expectation on acting skill and such, from the reviews I've ever seen from her. However, I think she has a crush on the ML of this drama from watching him in 'The Imperial Coroner' prior to this one. She does indicate that THIS drama is as "CLICHE" as it comes, but rates it high because, as she puts it, "Wang Zi Qi actually 'FITS' the biz suits and looks 'REALISTIC' as a CEO, and that the interactions between the ML/FL are 'fluffy and fulfilling'", and I believe that she posted that review around EP. 8 of this drama... saying that she's enjoying it despite the cliche...which is rather incredible based on the HIGH LEVEL she often requires of the dramas she watches and rates.
I believe that her fanbase took her leanings and followed her into watching this drama with the same sort of "fangirling" attitude. It's honestly not like her to fangirl, but, for w/e reason, she sure is for Wang Zi Qi. Why do I say this, because I started watching this based on her statements, believing that, even if cliche, the plot has to have some merit for her to promote and rate it so high in the initial watch... only to be utterly disappointed that it is WAY BEYOND old school C-Drama, to the point that I'm baffled at her review, tbh. Yes, I watch trope-y cliche C-Dramas but only the newer ones that don't over abuse it and add a bit more "FRESH"ness to it. This is not that. This drama is reminiscent of of early 2000s C-Dramas, especially when it comes with the fantastically overbearing behavior of the second leads, that is just way past being any form of realistic. These will get a severe downvote for me when they take it to these levels....when it's the ONLY driving force of the plot and there's no other depth to the characters or the plot than this. =/
I hate how bias people are to how SMLs act towards the FLs even though they are in a relationship or are married…
Dude, coming to a married woman’s husband’s family home to give her a bouquet of flowers, like he’s taking her to the prom, simply because she’s got a cold is 100% toxic and off. He is fully aware they’re both in love with each other, so there really aren’t any excuses for this kind of toxic behavior.
On the other hand, what the SFL is doing is criminal. She is taking someone’s private information and documents and publishing them in a public forum. She should be in jail.
So, the SML is just being a freaking douchebag, but the SFL is being a stalking criminal bitch. A slight difference in character but not much.
Our leads are no less guilty in this. They both are jealous and expect the other person to be understanding of their situation, while they each give to much attention and leeway to the second leads, that leads to false hope and difficulties. I’d say the ML is a little more succinct in telling off the SFL but even allowing her to continue having any involvement in their activities when she’s already done a lot of sus stuff he’s aware of makes him just about as naive as his wife. lol.
That this drama has stuck to the second leads interferences being the SOLE driving point of this drama means it’s likely going to continue on until the very end. Hopefully we won’t get the std C-Drama breakup/divorce before they get back together, but being that this drama is so cliche, I’m not holding my breath over it.
So, she is right and then rumors are right? 3 sides to a story. Innocent until proven guilty.He did not admit…
You're the perfect mind reader. You understand it all. You know exactly what Jisoo apologized for, but everyone wasn't as clever as you and thought he was apologizing for it all. Good for you to know Jisoo so well. I never said he wasn't canceled. I'm pretty clear his career is over, few people are as clever as you to differentiate things, so his reputation is still in the gutter, and when he gets out of the military he'll have to start his whole life over and figure that out, and the people who made false accusations just go on with their lives.
It is cool you read Seon Ho's mind as well and know exactly what he is apologizing for and that every aspect of her allegations are 100% accurate and that there's no nuance to be had. You're so clever and smart to know why he said what he said and all the intent behind it and the real behind the scenes story.
So, she is right and then rumors are right? 3 sides to a story. Innocent until proven guilty.He did not admit…
Yes. I think it depends on who represents the actor and how they demand their talent approach it. Jisoo apologized as vaguely as this apology & got canceled for it and then said he'll go into the military. Then later everything was found to be not as it was rumored to be, and the VAGUENESS of the apology made people believe the rumor was true... and just like that... people ONLY remember the rumor and the VAGUE apology, but not the retraction.
This is how cancel culture works. This is how you destroy a person's life... and you have to question the timing, and publicly airing your personal life like this, because, what does the accuser benefit from it, other than destroying a person's life. In that sense, doing exactly what they say was done to them. Tit for tat. Except, we're not privy to their private life and, thus, we can't really say ACCURATELY if it IS tit for tat. It very well could be only 1 person getting completely and utterly destroyed to the point that they have to completely restart their life and find another occupation... and never have a restored reputation again...
I just think that these kinds of personal issues should be left to their private life. Social media has become a bane on society because, based on a tweet here, forum post there, a papz investigation over there, and media article blowing it all up, every person thinks they know PERFECTLY the behind the scenes private business of everyone involved.
Let's be crystal clear.... NO ONE KNOWS EXACTLY except for the people directly involved, and even with THEM it's 'her version', 'his version', and 'something in between being the real case'.
cliche shows are one of my biggest pet peeves. i hate repeated plots and uncreative, exaggerated loopholes that…
It's not an island. It's just NW of Ulsan above Busan on the Japan seaside of the peninsula. Unlike Seoul that is inland next to a river. That's why they can all drive their cars on the freeway to and from Seoul easily and you never see them on a ferry boat. lol. The town is fictitious, & irl it's Pohang, which is 3-1/2 hrs car drive from Seoul. ;)
Boy howdy the editing on this drama is atrocious! The director and production literally cut a couch scene with the leads just sitting and talking where the FL's head was to the left, then in 0.01 secs her head is suddenly to the right. LMFAO. It almost looked like the video was inappropriately cut, until I rewound it a few times and released, nope, that's just how bad they edited it. Makes you wonder if they just couldn't get the FL to act the scene and say her lines appropriately that they just gave up and that was the best on the scene edits they could finally splice together. =/
I have VIP in general but I have no idea. It's dumb. I think they stick it back on VIP once the view count doesn't…
It still makes no sense. They have 4 episodes you can watch for free, but the rest are back under the veil of VIP pass only. It’s fine, because by now there are multiple other places I can watch. If Tencent doesn’t want my repeat viewership, that’s their choice. A bad one, but their’s nonetheless.
Why did Tencent put this back under the VIP tags after releasing them all to FULL?? Haven't they gouged us out of our money enough by doing the Fast Track? I'm baffled by this. They're forcing me to REwatch on another platform. =/
Damn! Gurl just stop wasting your time writting thousands of words about how scared you are about snowdrop being…
You're simply rude af and mischaracterizing my intention.
Let me put it to you this way. GO WATCH 'YOUTH OF MAY'!! Go watch what is said and how NORTH KOREAN SPIES are referenced AND addressed in THAT drama. Pay particular CLOSE attention to the LAST EPISODE of the drama and how the elder version of the ML remarks about BANNERS claiming 'THE TRUTH' about these events. HINT: It's akin to what holocaust deniers do when they talk about Germany during WWII.
Then ask yourself what JTBC's response about "BLACK HUMOR" and using 'NORTH KOREAN SPIES' under these events for THIS drama have to do with HISTORY.
Add to that another question to yourself: "WHY DIDN'T 'YOUTH OF MAY' GET THE SAME REACTION FROM KOREAN NETIZENS AND A PETITION TO BE BANNED????
Don't insult me that I can ONLY know the importance of certain aspects of Korean HISTORY by being Korean myself.
So, this is an originally produced drama by Wavve [aka Contents Wave Co., Ltd.] a new OTT service provider in South Korea. Their concept is similar to 'NetFlix'.
The 'Part 1' of , which can only be viewed on Wave, has been released. Watch episodes 1-8 all the way at once - Shrimp at Night!
We ask for your interest and love for the various original contents that will be released in the future.
thank you."
Wavve has had several issues over the past year with LIVE viewing servers and VODs. I'm not at all sure the exact nature of the problems, but this has caused a lot of issues with paying customers who pay via FLAT RATE. How that applies to this drama, I'm not sure.
Damn! Gurl just stop wasting your time writting thousands of words about how scared you are about snowdrop being…
‘Sabotage”???? How??? I’m just one foreigner on MDL. I don’t have any power to make or break this drama so your words are just utter nonsense!! I didn’t sign a petition to the Blue House, because I’m not a citizen of South Korea!!!
You are out of line with your comment. Please don’t insult me. I’m not insulting anyone here, I’m voicing my opinion which I fully have the right to do ANYWHERE on this platform. You don’t get to act like an administrator here and dictate my freedoms and my speech.
My comment lets everyone know that this drama will at a minimum have 1 episode broadcast on JTBC in the LAST SLOT for the Sat-Sun spot of the year. SO…. IT WILL BE BROADCAST. My sentiments have nothing to do with whether that will or won’t happen. I’m voicing an opinion that based on what I’ve seen and read, this drama will STILL be controversial despite this AND that it could ruin the careers of some of the actors etc. Whether I express this OPINION or NOT, won’t make a bit of difference to those SOUTH KOREAN CITIZENS who petitioned the Blue House about this already and the thousands who have posted on forums about it!!! NOR WILL YOU TELLING ME TO LEAVE do a thing to change the outcome as well.
You’re BLIND if you think you understand my intentions, because based on your comment, you haven’t got a clue.
I was always thinking that the staff and the cast and the whole team working on this drama from directors and…
How many of the cast were either born or old enough to remember what happened at the time? That’s my point. Also, there are still ONGOING trials of the president who issued the military in there even today. This junta president is still alive and FREE as a bird telling his lies. Ex-junta president Chun Do Hwan was only convicted of libel 9 MONTHS AGO for saying the Catholic priests were liars. To this day, even though there are even foreign witnesses to the facts, the people who were part of the regime, who have never been convicted of ANY War Crimes still say that military soldiers never shot at citizens from helicopters. YES, they did kill civilians by shooting at them this way… but, here is the former president only finally being sued in 2017!!! WHY!?!? Why can these issues be addressed and discussed NOW and not prior??? Because the chaebols and those in power all this time had control of the narrative… It wasn’t until the Sewol Ferry incident that the citizens finally came together and said enough is enough and the years long process to FOR THE FIRST TIME impeach a president over CORRUPTION. That was a huge issue… but the citizens are still fighting to get their version of the story out…. so, the point is… many of these young actors likely are NOT fully clear on what was involved and may even believe the whole “…communists infiltrated the university and we needed to beat and kill men, women, and children and rape all the women as well to teach them all a lesson…” version of the story that those who were in power at the time still try to say: https://youtu.be/Yd7oFCk1d2c
I was always thinking that the staff and the cast and the whole team working on this drama from directors and…
I hope that is the case, but you have a couple things working here that we all have to prepare ourselves for in the end.
1) There’s a reason that the OLDER netizens are chastising kids and international Kpop fans. It’s because they a) either know nothing about the history behind it or the FULL story/sanitized version from the Junta and/or b) they’re Koreans who are too young and only care about being able to see Jisoo in her debut acting role…because seeing her in another drama, even if it’s a “debut” wouldn’t be the actual “REAL” 1st role
2) Chinese MONEY talks and people listen. How do you think TAIWANESE citizens WILLINGLY denounce their own heritage and renounce PRIDE in their own country and flag?? If RENOUNCING and DENOUNCING was what they ALL meant, why aren’t they in front of their govt buildings PROTESTING and demanding UNIFICATION with China??? Why would they be PROUD of their GAY MARRIAGE LAWS if they sided with and loved China??? China would abolish Gay Marriage…. They don’t REALLY believe what they’re saying deep down… They only go along and say these things because it’s the only way they can work and make money of the Chinese Market. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS… and you’re deaf, dumb and blind if you think otherwise. JTBC taking Chinese MONEY with the stipulation that they do a little rewrite of history here or there doesn’t mean a thing to them if they’re pocketing the money.
I hope as well as everyone that they stay true to the reality of the story. As it stands, there is so much BS surrounding this ~ as in saying the Freedom Fighters were Communists.. Uhh.. No, they weren’t. The idea that you can’t be a Freedom Fighter AND a Capitalist only comes from the mind of a Marxist…and in the end…. Who is more free???? China & NK or SK who just impeached a president with a citizenry that tries to level the playing field everyday and keep chaebols from running the entire country.
Today’s or 9/9 is YY’s birthday. Check out the space themed room and cake: https://share.api.weibo.cn/share/249413953.html?weibo_id=4679309068863974
When everyone is telling grapefruits to move on from the cpf and wait for their new drama coupling, but the actors themselves won’t let you by posting a YAMG WEDDING DAY pic for your birthday theme. 😏
‘ While a firm release date was not announced, the network has confirmed that the show will be its final Saturday-Sunday drama of the year..”
The Blue House has responded appropriately, but it’s not a FULL rejection. It’s just merely saying they’re not going to interfere with content creator’s free speech rights. HOWEVER, this is going to be strictly monitored, by KCSC, once it airs. Blue House can only rely on what the production team is saying and won’t be able to determine the truth behind their statements until it airs. If the 1st 2 episodes don’t go the way JTBC is indicating, there will be HUGE controversy even more so, and likely JTBC will be forced to cancel the same way “Joseon Exorcist’ was cancelled but the outcry will be FAR worse for JTBC.
I, for one, am hugely skeptical about JTBC’s clarifications. Honestly, their words coupled with this notion that the drama is based in SOME FACTS coming from a ‘political prisoner from North Korea’ and the fact that ANY NK ‘spies’ are likely to be involved makes me doubt that when the 1st episodes drop, this will go over well at all with South Korean citizens.
I’m sad about this because Jung Hae In is a FAV actor of mine, and I’m truly fearful that choosing to do this drama will stigmatize him for a long time after it comes out, if it does poorly. We know what happens to stigmatized celebrities and he’s already had to deal with controversies of being arrogant in front of more seasoned, veteran actors. =/ This political time he’s acting in is highly sensitive because there are ONGOING issues and LAWSUITS against the REGIME even today…. because TRUE free speech didn’t really come to South Koreans until recently, after the Sewol Ferry Accident and presidential impeachment.
Why is the NK SPY angle of this drama so controversial? Because those involved with the uprising, especially the students, and the University doctors & nurses who tended the injured and bodies at the time, who know there were NEVER any ‘NK spies’ involved and that this was what the SK govt regime used as an EXCUSE to come into the area with military and killing 144 innocent freedom protesting civilians. One major controversy, and where “Taxi Driver” plays a key role, is that the SK govt shot at citizens from helicopters. To this day, the regime, is denying these things. Many of the pro-freedom fighter Koreans had to exile to Japan and used pro-freedom publications from Japan to get out the CORRECT information.
The biggest point of contention is that it is CHINESE INVESTORS pushing these REVISIONIST HISTORY stories. For what reason??? Watch what is currently happening in China where the GOVT has released a statement THIS WEEK that it will crack down on “SISSY BOY’ bands and male actors who “do not conformed to appropriate male beauty standards” and ask yourselves if ANY CHINESE org, being that ALL ORGS ARE OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CCP~PERIOD~ would EVER push a PRO-DEMOCRACY STORY surrounding Korea? With the current US’s administration showing utter weakness, China is more emboldened to act, not just in Taiwan, or Afghanistan, but other places as well. The Korean citizens who have lived through these times, as well as family members of the dead protestors will never forget.
So you can maybe understand more why this situation isn’t merely about some precious Kpop fandom getting its glory, that certain things are more important than that ~~AND WHY CHINESE INVESTORS USE ENTERTAINMENT FIRST TO INFILTRATE THE PSYCHE OF A NATION ~~ international fans just really need to sit aside and wait and not argue about the BIGGER PICTURE here. Here are the more important comments from K-netizens on the matter of this drama and their fears and concerns:
“ Jisoo isn't the only one being criticized. JTBC, wake up! There's no future for people who forget history. Jisoo and Hae-in are very popular so this drama will circulate abroad. What are foreigners going to think of our Democratic Movement? Why would you do this in a drama? Having North Koreans as a backdrop of a pro-democracy uprising was not right in the first place. Are you having fun nowㅋ?“
“ It's seriously crazy. Kids that don't understand what's going on should just look up the current state of Myanmar on Google then come back. We went through the same situation too. We can't forgive everything that's going just because it's Jisoo or Hae-in”
“[+280, -2] You all know that China's least favorite thing is democracy right?”
“[+258, -1 Honestly its highly suspicious that a Chinese company invested in this. Would Communist China directly invest in something like this knowing its based on the Democratic movement? It's suspicious that Seol gang-hwa is not even in the Korean dictionary but you can find it on the Chinese dictionary..”
“[+250, -2] A Chinese company invested 100 billion won in JTBC studios. Why would China invest that much in a pro-democracy drama ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 딱? It's because they're planning to distort the history of our Democratic Movement by saying they were spies themselves.”
Again, the backdrop to this story is the very SOUTH KOREAN REGIME that killed over a 100 innocent protesting civilians said they were forced to do it because NORTH KOREAN SPIES were among the protestors… PRO-DEMOCRACY PROTESTORS who got all their data out to South Korean exiled in JAPAN using Japanese PRO-DEMOCRACY PUBLICATIONS developed after WWII & democracy came to Japan, to show that the GOVT was LYING ABOUT NK SPIES.
Again, those who lived through it can see the writing on the wall….and why a NK SPY would be used to distort history and the idea that Chinese will INVEST without making DEMANDS to change scripts as they see fit is quite naive in a devastating way. That’s just not how the CCP works.
I have never used ML for ‘Main Lead’ ever. It’s always been ‘Male Lead’ because what drama has only 1 ‘Main Lead’?
It’s Main Role[s] not Main Lead[s] and using ML as ‘Main Lead’ wouldn’t distinguish between which ‘Male Lead’ [ROLES] or ‘Female Lead’ {ROLES] you were referring if there’s more than 1, especially of both male & female, as in 4 Main Lead[s], i.e. 2 males & 2 females. =/
But obviously that didn't happen. Now the trailer has been taken down by LINE TV as well. https://tv.line.me/bossandmeth
Based on the sentiment, and enthusiasm for this version... which based on the likes etc... is almost zitch, I don't anticipate that this version will ever see the light of day, no matter how many times Aom Sushar posts about it on her IG and tries to promote it. If the trailer is any indication, they brutalized the plot to make it more thai-style slap-kiss and that just won't work with this story. =/
There may be no legality or laws that say you have to report a known crime, which, with the videos in the kakao chatrooms he saw were such, that's why you have 2 in prison for 8-10 yrs over it, Lee Jong Hyun was completely and utterly aware of it and what his 'friends' were participating in. He was supposed to be in the military "reflecting" on his behavior but was found to be hitting up female YouTubers in a sexually explicit way and in a manner that the females deemed unwanted. Again, with the current state of public scrutiny in South Korea, there are people being kicked off dramas etc for far less than this here.
As for why FNC haven't severed their contract with him, even though he is no longer a member of the band CNBLUE, is because:
1) he covered for Jung Yonghwa/FNC insider trading stock scandal back in 2016. In that, Yonghwa was investigated for making money off buying FNC stock then selling it at a higher price KNOWING that FNC was going to hire a big name celebrity. That's a no-no anywhere in the world. You cannot profit off of personal info you know about the company. Anyway, although Yonghwa made money they conveniently made it look as though he bought and sold BEFORE the knowing anything...while Lee Jong Hyun was fined by the South Korean govt for the same thing, but admitting that he KNEW about the celebrity when he bought the shares... the ONLY reason Jong Hyun didn't go to jail over this was because he KEPT the stock and was losing money when the stock prices dropped thus not profiting off the purchase. Jong Hyun STILL owns those FNC stocks... and we all know why...it's leverage for taking the fall for their more popular member of CNBLUE and entertainer Yonghwa &
2) Jonghyun has the inside info to blackmail them, AND still owns shares in FNC... So he's an OWNER of the company, no matter how little the amount of his shares... They're NEVER going to end his contract until FNC goes bankrupt and bought out by someone else, or closes its doors.
But let's all be clear here, maybe he could have a career in Japan, but he is NEVER going to have another chance in South Korea, period. K-netizens don't work that way, even if there are boice that still want him and support him.
I believe that her fanbase took her leanings and followed her into watching this drama with the same sort of "fangirling" attitude. It's honestly not like her to fangirl, but, for w/e reason, she sure is for Wang Zi Qi. Why do I say this, because I started watching this based on her statements, believing that, even if cliche, the plot has to have some merit for her to promote and rate it so high in the initial watch... only to be utterly disappointed that it is WAY BEYOND old school C-Drama, to the point that I'm baffled at her review, tbh. Yes, I watch trope-y cliche C-Dramas but only the newer ones that don't over abuse it and add a bit more "FRESH"ness to it. This is not that. This drama is reminiscent of of early 2000s C-Dramas, especially when it comes with the fantastically overbearing behavior of the second leads, that is just way past being any form of realistic. These will get a severe downvote for me when they take it to these levels....when it's the ONLY driving force of the plot and there's no other depth to the characters or the plot than this. =/
On the other hand, what the SFL is doing is criminal. She is taking someone’s private information and documents and publishing them in a public forum. She should be in jail.
So, the SML is just being a freaking douchebag, but the SFL is being a stalking criminal bitch. A slight difference in character but not much.
Our leads are no less guilty in this. They both are jealous and expect the other person to be understanding of their situation, while they each give to much attention and leeway to the second leads, that leads to false hope and difficulties. I’d say the ML is a little more succinct in telling off the SFL but even allowing her to continue having any involvement in their activities when she’s already done a lot of sus stuff he’s aware of makes him just about as naive as his wife. lol.
That this drama has stuck to the second leads interferences being the SOLE driving point of this drama means it’s likely going to continue on until the very end. Hopefully we won’t get the std C-Drama breakup/divorce before they get back together, but being that this drama is so cliche, I’m not holding my breath over it.
It is cool you read Seon Ho's mind as well and know exactly what he is apologizing for and that every aspect of her allegations are 100% accurate and that there's no nuance to be had. You're so clever and smart to know why he said what he said and all the intent behind it and the real behind the scenes story.
I for one, don't assume I know shit.
This is how cancel culture works. This is how you destroy a person's life... and you have to question the timing, and publicly airing your personal life like this, because, what does the accuser benefit from it, other than destroying a person's life. In that sense, doing exactly what they say was done to them. Tit for tat. Except, we're not privy to their private life and, thus, we can't really say ACCURATELY if it IS tit for tat. It very well could be only 1 person getting completely and utterly destroyed to the point that they have to completely restart their life and find another occupation... and never have a restored reputation again...
I just think that these kinds of personal issues should be left to their private life. Social media has become a bane on society because, based on a tweet here, forum post there, a papz investigation over there, and media article blowing it all up, every person thinks they know PERFECTLY the behind the scenes private business of everyone involved.
Let's be crystal clear.... NO ONE KNOWS EXACTLY except for the people directly involved, and even with THEM it's 'her version', 'his version', and 'something in between being the real case'.
Let me put it to you this way. GO WATCH 'YOUTH OF MAY'!! Go watch what is said and how NORTH KOREAN SPIES are referenced AND addressed in THAT drama. Pay particular CLOSE attention to the LAST EPISODE of the drama and how the elder version of the ML remarks about BANNERS claiming 'THE TRUTH' about these events. HINT: It's akin to what holocaust deniers do when they talk about Germany during WWII.
Then ask yourself what JTBC's response about "BLACK HUMOR" and using 'NORTH KOREAN SPIES' under these events for THIS drama have to do with HISTORY.
Add to that another question to yourself: "WHY DIDN'T 'YOUTH OF MAY' GET THE SAME REACTION FROM KOREAN NETIZENS AND A PETITION TO BE BANNED????
Don't insult me that I can ONLY know the importance of certain aspects of Korean HISTORY by being Korean myself.
I'm under the impression that for international viewers, Viki is acquiring the rights, but there's an issue with the VODs so we just have to wait.
This is the link to the drama from the Wavve site:
[https://www.wavve.com/player/vod?programid=C9901_C99000000068&page=1]
Obviously, if you are not a member or, I think, in South Korea, the drama is unavailable to you.
NOTICE from Wavve for this drama:
"2021-09-07
Hello. It is wavve.
The 'Part 1' of , which can only be viewed on Wave, has been released.
Watch episodes 1-8 all the way at once - Shrimp at Night!
We ask for your interest and love for the various original contents that will be released in the future.
thank you."
Wavve has had several issues over the past year with LIVE viewing servers and VODs. I'm not at all sure the exact nature of the problems, but this has caused a lot of issues with paying customers who pay via FLAT RATE. How that applies to this drama, I'm not sure.
If you want to understand further about the company, this is a link to an interview with the company's CEO, Lee Tae Hyun:
https://deadline.com/2021/04/leading-south-korean-ott-platform-content-wavve-ceo-talks-900m-originals-drive-international-roll-out-season-2-of-hit-anthology-show-sf8-1234733354/
You are out of line with your comment. Please don’t insult me. I’m not insulting anyone here, I’m voicing my opinion which I fully have the right to do ANYWHERE on this platform. You don’t get to act like an administrator here and dictate my freedoms and my speech.
My comment lets everyone know that this drama will at a minimum have 1 episode broadcast on JTBC in the LAST SLOT for the Sat-Sun spot of the year. SO…. IT WILL BE BROADCAST. My sentiments have nothing to do with whether that will or won’t happen. I’m voicing an opinion that based on what I’ve seen and read, this drama will STILL be controversial despite this AND that it could ruin the careers of some of the actors etc. Whether I express this OPINION or NOT, won’t make a bit of difference to those SOUTH KOREAN CITIZENS who petitioned the Blue House about this already and the thousands who have posted on forums about it!!! NOR WILL YOU TELLING ME TO LEAVE do a thing to change the outcome as well.
You’re BLIND if you think you understand my intentions, because based on your comment, you haven’t got a clue.
1) There’s a reason that the OLDER netizens are chastising kids and international Kpop fans. It’s because they a) either know nothing about the history behind it or the FULL story/sanitized version from the Junta and/or b) they’re Koreans who are too young and only care about being able to see Jisoo in her debut acting role…because seeing her in another drama, even if it’s a “debut” wouldn’t be the actual “REAL” 1st role
2) Chinese MONEY talks and people listen. How do you think TAIWANESE citizens WILLINGLY denounce their own heritage and renounce PRIDE in their own country and flag?? If RENOUNCING and DENOUNCING was what they ALL meant, why aren’t they in front of their govt buildings PROTESTING and demanding UNIFICATION with China??? Why would they be PROUD of their GAY MARRIAGE LAWS if they sided with and loved China??? China would abolish Gay Marriage…. They don’t REALLY believe what they’re saying deep down… They only go along and say these things because it’s the only way they can work and make money of the Chinese Market. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS… and you’re deaf, dumb and blind if you think otherwise. JTBC taking Chinese MONEY with the stipulation that they do a little rewrite of history here or there doesn’t mean a thing to them if they’re pocketing the money.
I hope as well as everyone that they stay true to the reality of the story. As it stands, there is so much BS surrounding this ~ as in saying the Freedom Fighters were Communists.. Uhh.. No, they weren’t. The idea that you can’t be a Freedom Fighter AND a Capitalist only comes from the mind of a Marxist…and in the end…. Who is more free???? China & NK or SK who just impeached a president with a citizenry that tries to level the playing field everyday and keep chaebols from running the entire country.
Coincidence? We think not! 🤫😜
The Blue House has responded appropriately, but it’s not a FULL rejection. It’s just merely saying they’re not going to interfere with content creator’s free speech rights. HOWEVER, this is going to be strictly monitored, by KCSC, once it airs. Blue House can only rely on what the production team is saying and won’t be able to determine the truth behind their statements until it airs. If the 1st 2 episodes don’t go the way JTBC is indicating, there will be HUGE controversy even more so, and likely JTBC will be forced to cancel the same way “Joseon Exorcist’ was cancelled but the outcry will be FAR worse for JTBC.
I, for one, am hugely skeptical about JTBC’s clarifications. Honestly, their words coupled with this notion that the drama is based in SOME FACTS coming from a ‘political prisoner from North Korea’ and the fact that ANY NK ‘spies’ are likely to be involved makes me doubt that when the 1st episodes drop, this will go over well at all with South Korean citizens.
I’m sad about this because Jung Hae In is a FAV actor of mine, and I’m truly fearful that choosing to do this drama will stigmatize him for a long time after it comes out, if it does poorly. We know what happens to stigmatized celebrities and he’s already had to deal with controversies of being arrogant in front of more seasoned, veteran actors. =/ This political time he’s acting in is highly sensitive because there are ONGOING issues and LAWSUITS against the REGIME even today…. because TRUE free speech didn’t really come to South Koreans until recently, after the Sewol Ferry Accident and presidential impeachment.
Why is the NK SPY angle of this drama so controversial? Because those involved with the uprising, especially the students, and the University doctors & nurses who tended the injured and bodies at the time, who know there were NEVER any ‘NK spies’ involved and that this was what the SK govt regime used as an EXCUSE to come into the area with military and killing 144 innocent freedom protesting civilians. One major controversy, and where “Taxi Driver” plays a key role, is that the SK govt shot at citizens from helicopters. To this day, the regime, is denying these things. Many of the pro-freedom fighter Koreans had to exile to Japan and used pro-freedom publications from Japan to get out the CORRECT information.
The biggest point of contention is that it is CHINESE INVESTORS pushing these REVISIONIST HISTORY stories. For what reason??? Watch what is currently happening in China where the GOVT has released a statement THIS WEEK that it will crack down on “SISSY BOY’ bands and male actors who “do not conformed to appropriate male beauty standards” and ask yourselves if ANY CHINESE org, being that ALL ORGS ARE OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CCP~PERIOD~ would EVER push a PRO-DEMOCRACY STORY surrounding Korea? With the current US’s administration showing utter weakness, China is more emboldened to act, not just in Taiwan, or Afghanistan, but other places as well. The Korean citizens who have lived through these times, as well as family members of the dead protestors will never forget.
So you can maybe understand more why this situation isn’t merely about some precious Kpop fandom getting its glory, that certain things are more important than that ~~AND WHY CHINESE INVESTORS USE ENTERTAINMENT FIRST TO INFILTRATE THE PSYCHE OF A NATION ~~ international fans just really need to sit aside and wait and not argue about the BIGGER PICTURE here. Here are the more important comments from K-netizens on the matter of this drama and their fears and concerns:
“ Jisoo isn't the only one being criticized. JTBC, wake up! There's no future for people who forget history.
Jisoo and Hae-in are very popular so this drama will circulate abroad. What are foreigners going to think of our Democratic Movement? Why would you do this in a drama? Having North Koreans as a backdrop of a pro-democracy uprising was not right in the first place. Are you having fun nowㅋ?“
“ It's seriously crazy. Kids that don't understand what's going on should just look up the current state of Myanmar on Google then come back. We went through the same situation too. We can't forgive everything that's going just because it's Jisoo or Hae-in”
“[+280, -2] You all know that China's least favorite thing is democracy right?”
“[+258, -1 Honestly its highly suspicious that a Chinese company invested in this. Would Communist China directly invest in something like this knowing its based on the Democratic movement? It's suspicious that Seol gang-hwa is not even in the Korean dictionary but you can find it on the Chinese dictionary..”
“[+250, -2] A Chinese company invested 100 billion won in JTBC studios. Why would China invest that much in a pro-democracy drama ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 딱? It's because they're planning to distort the history of our Democratic Movement by saying they were spies themselves.”
Again, the backdrop to this story is the very SOUTH KOREAN REGIME that killed over a 100 innocent protesting civilians said they were forced to do it because NORTH KOREAN SPIES were among the protestors… PRO-DEMOCRACY PROTESTORS who got all their data out to South Korean exiled in JAPAN using Japanese PRO-DEMOCRACY PUBLICATIONS developed after WWII & democracy came to Japan, to show that the GOVT was LYING ABOUT NK SPIES.
Again, those who lived through it can see the writing on the wall….and why a NK SPY would be used to distort history and the idea that Chinese will INVEST without making DEMANDS to change scripts as they see fit is quite naive in a devastating way. That’s just not how the CCP works.
It’s Main Role[s] not Main Lead[s] and using ML as ‘Main Lead’ wouldn’t distinguish between which ‘Male Lead’ [ROLES] or ‘Female Lead’ {ROLES] you were referring if there’s more than 1, especially of both male & female, as in 4 Main Lead[s], i.e. 2 males & 2 females. =/
Just saying…..
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPp9UnHrg5J/
and gave a link to the LINE TV drama with a trailer.
But obviously that didn't happen. Now the trailer has been taken down by LINE TV as well.
https://tv.line.me/bossandmeth
Based on the sentiment, and enthusiasm for this version... which based on the likes etc... is almost zitch, I don't anticipate that this version will ever see the light of day, no matter how many times Aom Sushar posts about it on her IG and tries to promote it. If the trailer is any indication, they brutalized the plot to make it more thai-style slap-kiss and that just won't work with this story. =/