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By technique I was referring to the technical aspects like how far away was the camera from her face? Did they place a laptop screen or something else in front of her so she could actually react to something on video, etc? If it were me, I would ask that the actual video of those bully scenes be placed there so I could react to it.

I have a degree in theatre and have done a lot of stage acting and while I MOSTLY agree with you that you either have it or you don't, I know that practice, technique, methods, etc. can go a LONG way toward bringing out the best in an actor. They can also make a mildly talented actor into an incredible one, allowing the innate abilities already there to fully manifest. Just as in sports, practice and the learning of techniques can make all the difference in the world.

I've never had the opportunity to try, as I did not choose to make acting my profession, but while I'm watching a film or drama I often think about the fact that these actors are doing what they're doing with cameras sometimes just a few feet away or less, sometimes moving around them as they stand still or moving as they move, and they have developed the ability or already had it, to ignore all of that and go into the world they need to be in to do their job. There are also all kinds of people and equipment in front of and around them to deal with.

I've always assumed film acting must be more challenging than stage acting for all of these reasons, plus you have to stop-start a lot, whereas with stage acting you go into the world of the play and get to stay there uninterrupted, which is a joyful thing to me.

Loved 1/2, 3/4 had me wavering but I hung in there and 5/6 came in strong. I thoroughly enjoyed this drama. Lee Shin Young is a new fave of mine, love that cute face as adorable crying as when he's laughing and he's a fine actor. I'll have to check out other work.

Since my discovery of Asian series/dramas/movies/comedy I have cried more heartfelt tears than over all the Hollywood stuff I watched for many years before that. Be they tears of happiness, sorrow or just because I'm feeling so much that the emotion has to come out somewhere, they flow more freely and with more frequency than ever before. I am deeply moved by Asian actors for some reason, I don't know why. I feel so lucky to have found this wonderful world.

Can't believe that cop shot the mom at the end. I would have pretended to miss or just let her have at him with the knife and not shot at all. The little shit probably got off with probation.
After the daughter was raped a second time, and her going there was really, really stupid, and she came home with her hair all chopped up and her face bruised all to hell and walked past her mom and into her room, why was there no reaction from the mom? The girl looked like living hell but the scene read as though she looked fine. The mom looked right at her.
Should have been a rape crisis counselor at that hospital the second that girl woke up the first time. wtf? Happens in American films too: no one gives a thought to mental health aspects of this stuff.
I guess these Asian killers use knives a lot; maybe its a cultural thing and they're easily available in the kitchen, but I'd take the time to go buy a gun or find one illegally. Do the job right.

Actually, I was hoping she would kidnap these fuckers and torture them a while first...

Well, Princess Lee, it doesn't really matter that you're vegan or don't buy leather or whatever, again, MILLIONS of animals die every day for food and other multiple uses. Turning off this movie didn't stop any of that, but apparently it helped you maintain your imagined moral superiority. You realize many people would starve to death without meat. Being vegan is a luxury in upscale countries and locales that poor people can't afford. No one in those locales gives a flying f**k whether you think it's OK or not.

I have at least three leather coats and a leather vest and lots of leather shoes by the way. Oh, and my wallet is leather; it's really beautiful. I think I'm like most people: If I had to kill and render the animals myself, I'd go vegetarian and wear fake leather and faux fur. But since I don't have to do it myself and it's already been done, I make use of the products. I think most people fall into that category of reasoning, actually.

You're free to be a vegan, but I think that's where it becomes more about virtue-signaling and self-righteousness than anything else. Just my opinion.

YES. The scene where she watched the computer was off-the-charts. That should be used in acting classes. Her face ran an amazing range of emotions and it was all believable...I recall her getting a sort of insane smile/grimace on her face at one point and I thought "she is going to hunt down every one of those kids and kill them," a thought which made me happy. And to think the actor had to sit there with a camera focused right on her face while she went though all this. It would be interesting to know the techniques used in that scene.

Geegee, if you want a delightful but not cheesy antidote to all the depressing stuff you and I watch, go watch RUN! T SCHOOL BASKETBALL CLUB! now, not later. :D I watched it last night: sweet, kind, loving, cathartic, funny, a little sad at times but ultimately upbeat and rewarding with great young actors. I spent most of the movie smiling or tearing up with general feels.

Sorry, no, I deleted it.

I would have liked 30 more minutes just because I enjoyed it so much.
And it's always good to leave the audience wanting more, right? It was a great antidote to all the upsetting, sad, depressing movies I've been watching lately, without being sickeningly sweet. I liked that the existing captain of the team and the new player became friends instead of vicious rivals, and I liked the goofy, sweet/nice boys in the group. Watch enough bully flicks and it's easy to believe that all young men are douche bags.

I ask myself the same thing, but I think it's largely a cathartic thing driving my interest in these shows. By living these situations, some of which DO end well, or in which we get some revenge of sorts, through with the characters, our own feelings of injustice, outrage, vengeance, etc. are experienced and vented, just as with any other type of justice or revenge-driven plot. I was not really bullied much as a kid, and I'm ashamed to admit I did a bit of mind-fuck bullying myself but not much, but I grew up in the closet and was called a sissy from time to time and I was terrified that I'd be found out. I lived the first 37 years of my life at some level of red alert every day. So to me society and the people who would have bullied me had they known for sure are the ones I get a cathartic charge out of seeing bullied in these movies. I was NOT mean to the really sad cases who were psychologically/emotionally abused and ridiculed for their looks or acne or weight or things like that, and I remember feeling empathy for them. But not enough to reach out. I wish I had.

Why do we do this to ourselves? Why do so many millions of other people love tearjerker, tragic, ugly-cry inducing movies? Something in us wants and needs that release/experience. Do we really have to explain it any further than that?

I will make that a spoiler, btw, thanks. I thought the mother's reaction of disbelief and shock in that scene was excellently portrayed. Even as she slowly took steps toward her son's body, her mind was refusing to register what her eyes were seeing, and she knew that once she got there she would have to acknowledge reality. Can you imagine? Especially after having said what she said to her son in the car just before this happened. "Maybe we should kill ourselves? Or...will you just go away for awhile so I can breathe a little, live a little?" I was a very depressed kid at that age. Had my mother said things like that to me, I can completely imagine walking in front of a car. I had suicidal thoughts anyway. Jesus, when she was saying those things I think my mouth was hanging open and it was so effective the way they filmed that, where you only saw her, never the face of the boy, which made imagining what he was feeling all the more intense.

Wow.

Great to know it's not just me. :D

Leela, a couple of things, even though I know you are not going to reply:
WHY do you watch these sort of movies if you are so disturbed by the plot elements? Seriously...why?
Secondly, consider that you are INTENDED to feel uneasy, disturbed, outraged, sad, happy, horrifiied, whatever by the movie. That is what drama does; it makes you FEEL things and often, the good feels that may come toward the end of a drama are that much more joyful when you've traveled on the dark side of the road to get there. But if you are unable to trust a director to film dark scenes eithically and focus on the characters then you shouldn't be watching.
Again, did the director in "Hope" actually show young actors in sexual situations or was it heavily implied and carefully filmed/staged to make it LOOK as though that's what you were seeing? I would guess the latter.

I loved this, as did you. Which made me curious as to why you say it's "not extremely good." I thought it was very much extremely good, which is why I liked it. :)

GREAT FILM, LOVED EVERY MOMENT.

This 7.7/10 rating is ridiculous. I gave it a 9/10. It is what it is and it is what it is very well.

There is a certain type of inspirational, comedic, heartwarming sports-themed movie, and when it is done well this movie is what you get. I knew when it started that I'd cry at least six times and I exceeded my estimate. :) That's a good thing. I truly was inspired and moved, and I laughed and most of all, I cared about this group of misfits and loved seeing them on this journey they took together. I'd say this flick is now easily in my top-20 favorite sports-themed, inspirational comedy/dramas list.

BRAVO.

lol I had to laugh at this, because I've been thinking about it ever since "Morgan" first appeared accompanied by that gleaming/blinding light that you might have noticed. Morgan is a now-disdained stock character that began showing up in Hollywood films maybe 30 years ago and is now known as "the Magic Negro." I'm serious. lol It's considered generally insulting to Black people now. Here's the Wikipedia link that explains it all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro

The Magic Negro in this film, Morgan, is the most blatant use of the type I've ever seen, though that might be because I had come to know what it was over the years here in the U.S. I knew as soon as I saw the guy what was going on, I just couldn't quite believe they'd bring a Magic Negro over to Japan where there are very few Black people. I thought maybe it should have been a "Magic Korean" or "Magic Caucasian," given that this is a Japanese film.

Anyway, maybe that's the last Japanese Magic Negro we'll have to see. :D

Calling you an idiot is not a cheap shot. It's statement of fact. And you spent most of thsi comment twisting my words again, which is the only way you have an argument to make. You didn't just change the sex of the actors you fantasized about, you decreased the age by NINE freaking years. Again, you're clearly an SJW on a mission so facts be damned. Did you know that 15 year-olds have ACTUAL sex in their real lives all the time, some of them with older people? But having FAKE sex on a film set is going to mess them up for life, yeah got it. You really are a prude and it's the SEX that bothers you. Are you OK with a 15 year old actor pretending to murder an older woman in a FAKE scene? I bet you think that's OK because omg sex. lol Pathetic.

Oh sorry. Don't know why I thought it was "shelter." There's a Shelter Island off Long Island east of NYC so that's probably what I had in mind. It's a mind-bender psychological thriller, right?

Yeah, I saw that in the theatre when it first came out...I remember enjoying it. About time to give it a second watch.

For me this is one of those flicks that's tries to be weird but is more boring than disturbing. And one of those that, at the end, I find myself thinking "so...what was the point of all that?" Not that much really went down, actually. Just a lot of low-key mental/emotional illness. I kept laughing at how the fisherwoman/mom had zero boundaries regarding what she said to her son. And every adult in his life had major boundary issues. I would never recommend this flick, not because I'm strongly opposed to its viewing, but because I just don't care.

This flick is clearly not my thing, but it sounds like you should write and direct a gore/splatter film of your own. :)

Do you mean "Shelter Island?"