It was clear in ep 3 that their ship already sailed. Those scenes iin ep 4 sitting on the floor were the best improv comedy, hilarious! She knew she fell in love with him when he gave her the pillows. He wasnt aware yet that he genuinely and deeply fell in love - that clipper on his desk... and i was thinking **** OH POOR THING **** but he is not a poor thing.... He does not let himself suffer... He quickly self analyzes and finds what is going on... AND he correctly reads the air :) and is not afraid to go after what he wants. That's da man! First of all, he is DA MAN bc he likes a very capable, strong woman. Very few men like such women. He is smart, he is brave, he is confident! and he is very nice. That look after drawing was precious :)
Amazing acting.
and now... the subsequent CHAOS lmao esp he got a spy in his house...
I organized this like this: first TIMELINE, then CHARACTERS - who they are, what they do, how they relate=============================TIMELINE…
@Tas @mysteryqueen9 I am not convinced he LOVES FL and that's why he is trying to protect her. Also, as a big shot gangster, he definitely knew who FL and that Chairman killed her parents. So why did he seduce her?
What if HeeSu commiteed suicide just to spite them?? I have no idea ... ANYTHING is possible
So as far as I am concerned .... I dont have enough info. :)( Let's watch some more.
the writer i hope brought the cancer .... for some good reason .... because if it is only to make us sad , it…
cancer will force FL's mom to finally let go and LIVE so far she is just controlling and manipulating and NOT following her own advices to her own parents LOVE EVANGELIST who split the beds in the bedroom.... never talks to her husband... holding grudges against Yangs, ... etc Cancer will have to change all that bc those are cancerous behaviors :) and her hysband will have to grow too, he is a man-child
I think it will be better if she told them. It will be not nice if they find out she knew and didn't tell them.…
i am disappointed that EH kept silent the entire time - like she is hogging her stepmother and hurting MS... ? dunno... it is so weird to keep it secret like that
I organized this like this: first TIMELINE, then CHARACTERS - who they are, what they do, how they relate=============================TIMELINE…
Oh yes thank you!!! this is what I needed to understand. Thank you!
as a Company founder and someone in architecture/construction, JH meets all kinds of ppl. I think he uses his good looks to seduce women and then have them do things for him. So far his connections are all women and they work for free or little money But he had to service HS I am not sure what he did for the assemblyman's daughter Purple Girl was preening her hair when she was talking about him, so clearly they are on good terms and she flirts with him.
Are people really this shocked about this scene? I don't think it's lewd at all, posing in an art class is normal…
Yes :) I bet he was thinking how he is gonna get out of her wrath at work for seeing something he should have not LMAO
But he has a history ... of taping her finger with certain thoughts, "in his day 10 boxes was nothing" and the s.x dream about FL :) which he interpreted as a nightmare bc he is a balanced person and "integrates all his charkras" i.e. he thinks with his brain, heart AND hormones all together in concensus - it would be fun to see his Cells :) - but the fact is, his equivalent of Lustsaurus Cell was on alert :)
So that look of shock on his face is going to start working in many directions as he remembers later what he saw :)
Bc I am not sure if you agree, but what SHE had on her face in that scene was excitement and sparkley in her eyes and a smile - and I think she already "had him in her dreams" the way she was showing how she held him in her arms and how she reacted to him taping her finger, she totally understood what he was thinking and she was a little bit flattered and smiling, and then sidestepped the conversation
I am posting this as a separate post so that we can collectively figure out why FL drove away so fast from broody…
In ep 3: The vice chairman (Kim Jae-uck) was in that black car parked in some weird spot - and FL was driving there, saw it, and instantly made a U-turn and fast drove away... .... Wow fishy..
Why would FL so fast drive away from that car???... first of all, WHY would she recognize his car... and him... in that very strange spot... and why was she driving around there?? Was she... avoiding him? Checking up on him?
I honestly think he was after her, bc of the meeting when she asked to not attend meetings.... and he said she must because he wants her under his control - and then she left the meeting and he said nothing... *** It really looked like he was trying to snag her romantically under the cover of being her boss **** And how did that start.. ? Did he know her from before?
AND seems like he had something going on with his secretary - why was she living in his studio???? they must have been lovers, based on how she was treating him - watching his food, brooding about him not eating, tying his tie while looking him in the eye - and stood there and let her... !, etc .
I suspect the secretary did NOT just live in his studio, that he was there eating and dressing with her there.... and he must have dumped her - based on how he was treating her, letting her come close as if per habit, then thinking about it and then rejecting her... AND SEEMS LIKE HIS NEW TARGET IS FL... ?
I am posting this as a separate post so that we can collectively figure out why FL drove away so fast from broody Vice Chairman's black car, and is there anything beyond one-sided crush from secretary to VC - first of all, why was she living in his studio? Yeah broody VC is Chairman's dutiful son and married - seems like just for money - no love there?
****Spoilers are below and provide "evidence" trying to answer the following questions: **** What are the relationships betwen broody Vice Chairman and FL? THIS QUESTION IS RAISED IN EP 4 \**** Between broody VC and his secretary ? THIS QUESTION IS ANSWERED IN EP 4 ****Does broody VC in habit of chasing women... ? EP 4 MAKES IT LOOK LIKE HE DOES NOT ***** ... is he after FL? MAYBE!!! EP 4 IS FISHY **** What was that car situation about?
Additional variables are the new VC who just arrived on a motorcycle, certainly looks like death for chicks/boys, a major player :) Unless he is somehow weird
FL made us laugh bc comedy is in paradoxes, we never expected to see certain sides of her - but I think very soon we will see her sides in more close up realistic view that might make us sad, mad, etc - what is her romantic history and preferences and current situation...
Are people really this shocked about this scene? I don't think it's lewd at all, posing in an art class is normal…
There are deeper issues bc Koreans are complaining about "male gazing" scene which intrinsically is very sexist and very cliche. There are many other layers in this.
And you need to trust their perceptive eyes. Korean audience was the first to complain about choild neglect and two-timing in Our Universe :)
On the other hand, it seems that the scene is getting some negativity from koreans on twitter, saying they're…
it is tagged rom com and it is clearly in the description that they cross the lines so ... sexy was implied. ML was portrayed as sexy from ep 1 - stairwell kiss, "in my day 10 boxes was nothing" speech, etc.
I dont know about explicit in movies etc bc I havent watched that ... I know that S Korea has had censoring meant to show proper ways of living and high morals.. Kdramas imo often have a healthy relationship to sexuality, it is shown to be there but is shown with tact, sophistication, finesse, and certain compassion for the delicate nature of the situation... Asia and S Korea have hostesses, Japan has legal prostitution, so ... they are no strangers to explicit... but somehow S Korea manages to keep it classy and not get lost in lewd... Unlike jdramas, which are off the wall crude, or cdramas, which just lack any finer vibes....
Also, I think Korean audience complained that ep 3 was "male gazing" i.e. it was super sexist
Koreans are super good about showing sexy without lewd, which imo makes it classy and even sexier in many ways. I am actually very impressed - scenes of sleeves roled up to show the forearm muscles, shirt unbuttoned for 2-3 buttons to show neck and shoulder muscles, pantlegs rolled up so you can see bare calves and feet, etc. It is sexIER bc it is daily life and it is all around you :) and it is subtle and normal.. Much better than a bare (hairy) chest with a huge golden necklace LMAO And as for women, Koreans have had tricks too :) Sometimes it doesnt work, bc the woman is too skinny, so her legs in a mini skirt look like sticks
I think ppl on this site are shocked bc of the paradoxes in FL's character :) She is definitely full of surprises LMAO zipped up nun who unzipps for 10 boxes :)
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and i was thinking **** OH POOR THING ****
but he is not a poor thing.... He does not let himself suffer... He quickly self analyzes and finds what is going on... AND he correctly reads the air :) and is not afraid to go after what he wants. That's da man! First of all, he is DA MAN bc he likes a very capable, strong woman. Very few men like such women. He is smart, he is brave, he is confident! and he is very nice.
That look after drawing was precious :)
Amazing acting.
and now... the subsequent CHAOS lmao esp he got a spy in his house...
I am not convinced he LOVES FL and that's why he is trying to protect her.
Also, as a big shot gangster, he definitely knew who FL and that Chairman killed her parents. So why did he seduce her?
What if HeeSu commiteed suicide just to spite them??
I have no idea ... ANYTHING is possible
So as far as I am concerned .... I dont have enough info. :)( Let's watch some more.
OK i see both you and @Tea think ML is freaking out about police.
OK, I will rewatch that.
so far she is just controlling and manipulating and NOT following her own advices to her own parents
LOVE EVANGELIST who split the beds in the bedroom.... never talks to her husband... holding grudges against Yangs, ... etc
Cancer will have to change all that bc those are cancerous behaviors :)
and her hysband will have to grow too, he is a man-child
Irona Family until the very end when he became mama boy..
All about my mother and Five Enough are not bad
I want to see him grow though
as a Company founder and someone in architecture/construction, JH meets all kinds of ppl.
I think he uses his good looks to seduce women and then have them do things for him.
So far his connections are all women and they work for free or little money
But he had to service HS
I am not sure what he did for the assemblyman's daughter
Purple Girl was preening her hair when she was talking about him, so clearly they are on good terms and she flirts with him.
But he has a history ... of taping her finger with certain thoughts, "in his day 10 boxes was nothing" and the s.x dream about FL :) which he interpreted as a nightmare bc he is a balanced person and "integrates all his charkras" i.e. he thinks with his brain, heart AND hormones all together in concensus - it would be fun to see his Cells :) - but the fact is, his equivalent of Lustsaurus Cell was on alert :)
So that look of shock on his face is going to start working in many directions as he remembers later what he saw :)
Bc I am not sure if you agree, but what SHE had on her face in that scene was excitement and sparkley in her eyes and a smile -
and I think she already "had him in her dreams" the way she was showing how she held him in her arms and how she reacted to him taping her finger, she totally understood what he was thinking and she was a little bit flattered and smiling, and then sidestepped the conversation
Why would FL so fast drive away from that car???... first of all, WHY would she recognize his car... and him... in that very strange spot... and why was she driving around there?? Was she... avoiding him? Checking up on him?
I honestly think he was after her, bc of the meeting when she asked to not attend meetings.... and he said she must because he wants her under his control - and then she left the meeting and he said nothing...
*** It really looked like he was trying to snag her romantically under the cover of being her boss **** And how did that start.. ? Did he know her from before?
AND seems like he had something going on with his secretary - why was she living in his studio???? they must have been lovers, based on how she was treating him - watching his food, brooding about him not eating, tying his tie while looking him in the eye - and stood there and let her... !, etc .
I suspect the secretary did NOT just live in his studio, that he was there eating and dressing with her there.... and he must have dumped her - based on how he was treating her, letting her come close as if per habit, then thinking about it and then rejecting her...
AND SEEMS LIKE HIS NEW TARGET IS FL... ?
Yeah broody VC is Chairman's dutiful son and married - seems like just for money - no love there?
****Spoilers are below and provide "evidence" trying to answer the following questions:
**** What are the relationships betwen broody Vice Chairman and FL? THIS QUESTION IS RAISED IN EP 4
\**** Between broody VC and his secretary ? THIS QUESTION IS ANSWERED IN EP 4
****Does broody VC in habit of chasing women... ? EP 4 MAKES IT LOOK LIKE HE DOES NOT
***** ... is he after FL? MAYBE!!! EP 4 IS FISHY
**** What was that car situation about?
Additional variables are the new VC who just arrived on a motorcycle, certainly looks like death for chicks/boys, a major player :) Unless he is somehow weird
FL made us laugh bc comedy is in paradoxes, we never expected to see certain sides of her - but I think very soon we will see her sides in more close up realistic view that might make us sad, mad, etc - what is her romantic history and preferences and current situation...
And you need to trust their perceptive eyes. Korean audience was the first to complain about choild neglect and two-timing in Our Universe :)
I dont know about explicit in movies etc bc I havent watched that ...
I know that S Korea has had censoring meant to show proper ways of living and high morals..
Kdramas imo often have a healthy relationship to sexuality, it is shown to be there but is shown with tact, sophistication, finesse, and certain compassion for the delicate nature of the situation...
Asia and S Korea have hostesses, Japan has legal prostitution, so ... they are no strangers to explicit... but somehow S Korea manages to keep it classy and not get lost in lewd... Unlike jdramas, which are off the wall crude, or cdramas, which just lack any finer vibes....
Also, I think Korean audience complained that ep 3 was "male gazing" i.e. it was super sexist
Koreans are super good about showing sexy without lewd, which imo makes it classy and even sexier in many ways. I am actually very impressed - scenes of sleeves roled up to show the forearm muscles, shirt unbuttoned for 2-3 buttons to show neck and shoulder muscles, pantlegs rolled up so you can see bare calves and feet, etc. It is sexIER bc it is daily life and it is all around you :) and it is subtle and normal.. Much better than a bare (hairy) chest with a huge golden necklace LMAO And as for women, Koreans have had tricks too :) Sometimes it doesnt work, bc the woman is too skinny, so her legs in a mini skirt look like sticks
I think ppl on this site are shocked bc of the paradoxes in FL's character :) She is definitely full of surprises LMAO zipped up nun who unzipps for 10 boxes :)