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upset, sure, like when you see some one shitting on the street, you get upset...that kind of upset.

I do get rest of your post though.
How men actually are in real life being inverted in Kdramas does make for a different take.& it can be charming as well.
Don't get me wrong, few years back I actually liked dramas with these kinds of ML's. One of my fav drama ever was 'what's wrong with secretary Kim' and it still remains my fav.
But it was long back & those times Kdramas had a lot of variety.
Now, every drama you start, it's the same ML staring at you.

More than anything, that's my main complaint.
you pick any drama, especially romance genre, this is the only ML you will find.

Just saying, yet another person who seems to have read my post and agrees with everything.

Since they have no point to counter, they just get offended and start giving free advises.

I think you lot need to get ready.
am pretty much convinced I will be poking fun of every future drama with similar virgin ML's.
I promise you that we will have a lot of fun with my posts.

It's the other way around dear.

They have made the drama for public consumption.
When public consumes something, they will review it and give their opinions.
That's how it works for each and everything in public life. From products we consume to politicians we vote for. Everything and everyone in public sphere is reviewed and opinions freely shared.
Pretty sure this concept is not unique or new to educated people....unless you are a North Korean.

Instead of asking public to stop giving their opinions, you should ask the writers to stop making these shitty dramas...

democracy 101 dear.

point taken.

I love the second-hand embarrassment, whether giving or receiving.

Guess, I should continue.

Don't know why people say 'I won't be replying'...I mean, just don't reply, why announce it to the world? It's not like someone is holding a gun to your head to reply...

I don't mind annoying characters in a drama, even the ML and FL can be annoying.
In fact the more annoying ML and FL are the better the drama would be. The conflict and growth of characters is what makes a drama interesting.

Spot on about not liking ML. He is fake,.

That's a cop out of an explanation.

basically your position seems to be - 'I agree with your observations, you are spot on with your analysis but since I have nothing to rebut, I will ask you to move on'.

Thanks for the advise, I will decide what to do for myself giving your advise a good consideration.

Wonder if anyone else would actually debate the actual observations than to give unsolicited advises.

I don't mind if some one said 'it is as it is, we like our ML's pure and virgin and that's what the writers are delivering to fulfill our fantasies'. At the least that person would get an applaud for being frank about what's happening.

The actors playing the leads are top notch.
Healer was my first JCW drama & he was absolutely charming in that.
for FL, I think it was 'Angels last mission', she was stunning in that one.

it's a hypothetical question and the answer seems to be a no.

again, FL is written fine, on expected lines and something a normal human would do.
The observation on her being the red flag in her relationships is not necessarily a bad thing. she was the red flag and that's why the relations failed. It just makes the Fl more relatable and humane.

Agree on the actress playing FL being cute.
Watched few of her other dramas & she is a great actress.

It was more rhetorical,
an observation on how pervert Kdrama rom-coms have become in recent years.

They were so good few years back.
Just wonder what happened and why we are getting such shitty characters and storylines!

And you spot on about not finding a man like the one shown in this drama. That's just not how men are. It's not just the waiting part, that's just one part of what makes the ML in this drama a complete fake. It's summation of a dozen of things that leaves you scratching your head as to what kind of drugs was the writer on to write such a ML!

She was a green flag until the latest episode.

Imagine if ML was dating FL but was secretly in love with another woman. Wonder if the ML would be called a green flag.

Again, the FL is still realistic, she tried to move on and could not, a perfectly normal reasonable human thing.

People need to really stop their BS logic of how some people hate the FL or the ML.
The hate is NOT on these characters, it;s purely on the incompetent writers.

All those with wonderful theories on why FL chose to date multiple men and ML stayed put and in love, seem to forget that these are NOT real people but imagination of writers.

The writers created these characters and their story arks.
For those who say FL chose to date to forget the ML and the ML did not date for xyz reason, you are just lying to yourself.
The reason why FL dated multiple men and the ML stayed put is because that's how the writer chose to write the FL and ML.
It is also why there is 2ML who exists for god knows why....because the writer wanted another man deeply in love with FL in the drama.

AND HERE IS THE IMPORTANT POINT ->

It's not just this drama, it pretty much most Kdrama rom-coms in last few years.

the writers pretty much have ML similar to the ML of this drama, while the FL in most rom-coms are similar to the FL of this drama.
Check out dramas like 'A good day to be a dog', 'my man is cupid', 'love to hate you', 'king the land' etc etc...and see how the writers chose to write the FL and ML.

Instead of spewing nonsense on people who have differing view on this drama, take the challenge...Show a single drama in last few years where the ML is shown to have dated lot of women & the FL stayed completely dedicated to ML and never even looks at another man...
If an industry has never made a drama like this but has made dozens of dramas where FL dates multiple men while ML is waiting for the Fl...then you know exactly what's happening and why it is happening.
All this talk of gender is nonsense. I have checked gender of writers of dramas where the ML is shown as fake as in this one and all of them are women....it then becomes very obvious why these writers have written such FL and ML in their dramas.

If Kdrama industry constantly produced dramas written by male writers, where the ML was dating multiple women OR is always surrounded by multiple women, while FL is shown having zero men around her & is shown to have never looked at another man and only ever loved Ml....I would be trashing those writers as well for making unrealistic FL's in their dramas.

If this kind of ML was a now and then thing in Kdramas, it would be fine but these ML's are pretty much in each and every Kdrama now a days - and that's the main problem.
It's not just this drama with these problematic characterization of ML's. It's almost each and every kdrama rom-com.

kdrama rule 1 - ML must always be pure and save himself for the FL.

Imagine if the writer of this drama went other way.

ML dates multiple women, while the FL stays put and does not look at another man, keep waiting for ML.
And then she comes back, has to compete with her best friend for love of ML. Both women competing and saying cringy eternal love things to ML and ML is struggling with this...

anyone seen a kdrama like this? ever?

This actually makes the FL worse, a red flag.
There was never anything wrong with FL dating, weird one was always the ML.

the writer in trying to balance out the FL, turns her into a red flag.
Now the cheating boyfriend in episode 1 comes across as a victim of FL.

Like I said, this is top class shit writing.
If anyone wants to become a writer, they need to watch this drama in how NOT to write characters or story lines.

The perverted minds are always the writers.

People seem to be under some misunderstanding that ML and the FL are real or represent some real people in real life. The FL might but the ML is as fake as they get.

I have made this challenge quite a few times before, why not you take it as well.
Show a single Kdrama in last 2 years where the ML dated a lot of women & the FL was deeply in love with ML and waited for him without dating or even looking at another man?

The pattern in Kdramas is very clear, make ML's have either zero interactions with other woman or very little, while FL will have as many interactions with as many men to cater to fantasies of certain section of viewers.

This says nothing about the ML or FL of this drama OR any other kdrama.
It only comments on the writers of these fake and stupid dramas who take the viewers for a ride.

FFS, please let me know exactly what purpose did the 2ML who waited for the FL all his life serve in this drama?

Go and watch rom-coms released in last 6 months.
make a list of women around ML and make a list of men around the FL's in all these dramas, I won't need to tell you, you will realize yourself the kind of shit writers have been serving to us in Kdramas now a days.

We get a good episode, finally.
This should have been a 4th or 5th episode of the drama.

Wrong, she did not come back because her career was going great and was decent amount of relationships.
She had NO reason to come back.

If she never wanted to come back, she would not have come back when she lost her job either.

Again, what the writers show and what the writers say don't match.
poor writing.

If you are into action, horror and gore, yes.

This was a story where the love triangle was needed but with ML having another women chasing him, to ensure FL feels jealousy and her feelings boil over.

The love triangle with another man makes no sense. The ML already declared his undying love for the FL and is practically a doormat. So, exactly what purpose is the writer trying to achieve by having 2ML is beyond my comprehension.

Now imagine FL coming back & finds ML having a casual relationship with another women. That would added spice to the story with both ML and FL dealing with their feelings...

Tone of the drama so far is ML -> chasing FL.

The drama at some point needs to convince the viewers that FL is even invested in ML and is willing to fight for him or sacrifice for him.

So far, the writers have failed to do so. All the gestures and sacrifices are all from the ML. there is no balance in the love story.

And the love triangle makes it even worse.
It's like you go for a nice dinner, you are served crap food and the guy behind you is constantly farting.