Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao’s Story and Romance

 windiaaa041293:

I found this comment in one of the articles discussing tsj.
he actually wanted Xiaoyao to be captured by CX?

Yup. We discussed it on this thread around two weeks ago when the issue of Jing being deliberately manipulative came up.

The pages before the first post also covered some of Jing's possible manipulations.

https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2864539&page=351#p2864539

https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2864793&page=352#p2864793

by the way...has anyone read the article about the merlin assassination involving tsj? it gave me goosebumps.
although I don't believe it 100% yet. But if that's true, it's no wonder he's called the smart and resourceful young master.

 Svetlanchik89:

By the way, did I miss the question about the potbellied doll? Please explain to me what this means in the relationship between Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao. 

Why this particular tree? Well, or tell me if I missed a page somewhere =)

The big belly doll is XL's gift for XY's wedding. It was actually the only item that made XY cheered up and smile after hearing XL's death. It encapsulated his confession and his wish for her: a happy, carefree life. 

The big belly doll is also symbolic for the relationship between them 

相柳把冰晶球放进了笑娃娃中空的肚子中，不大不小，刚刚容纳下冰晶球，盖上底座，冰晶球被封在了笑娃娃的肚内。冰晶为水，扶桑为火，水火相济、冷热相伴，恰好冰晶不再寒气逼人，扶桑木也不再滚烫灼人，及时没有灵力的一般人也能拿起扶桑笑娃娃。

Xiang Liu put the ice crystal ball into the empty stomach of the laughing doll which was not big or small, just accomodated the ice crystal ball. He covered the base, and the ice crystal ball was sealed in the belly of the laughing doll. Ice crystals are water, Fusang is fire, water and fire are supporting each other, cold and hot accompanied each other, therefore it happened that the ice crystal was no longer cold, and the Fusang wood was no longer hot and scorching, and ordinary people who did not have spiritual power can also pick up and play with the Fusang laughing doll any time. 

The icecrytal ball was made by XY as the last gift for him. It was considered as her confession to him. He made the laughing doll for her. It also the shell to contain the ball with his wishes and hidden confession. 

Since the ice-crystal ball was extreme cold. He used Fusang wood to make the doll. That divine plant grew in the place where the sun rose (in Gaoxin).  Thus, it has fire element inside. 

XL used the words 相济 which means help/support each other (compliment each other) and 相伴 which means accompany each other to indicate the relationship between the 2 elements of the laughing big belly doll. These words also represent XY-XL relationship.

Note: for your information 

In Chinese mythology, Fusang refers to a divine tree and an island which are both located in the East, from where the sun rises. A similar tree, known as the Ruomu (若木) exists in the west, and each morning, the sun was said to rise in Fusang and fall on Ruomu. According to Chinese legends, ten birds (typically ravens) lived in the tree, and because nine of the birds rested, the tenth bird would carry the Sun on its journey. This legend has similarities with the Chinese tale of the fictional hero Houyi, sometimes referred to as the Archer, who is credited with saving the world by shooting down nine of the suns when all ten suns simultaneously took to the air one day. Some scholars have identified the bronze trees which were found at the archaeological site Sanxingdui as these Fusang trees. [1]

In the end, XY had a Fusand doll from XL and Roumu flower from CX along with her in the new chapter of life.  

 windiaaa041293:

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/651117197?utm_id=0

This theory is too far fetched in my opinion. It is one thing to support YaoLiu, but using this as a reason to discredit Jing is too outrageous for me. If it were really him, the greatest fool is Xiang Liu, because he is the one who ensured that Xiao Yao had her murderer as a lifelong companion.

Can anyone help, why can't I find these words in chapter 6

Xiaoliu walked over to Jing, smiled and sighed: “I will give him a drink, so that I don't get hurt forever.”

Can anyone help post the novel when Xiaoliu was found by Jing and cared for at his residence?

 windiaaa041293:

“我姑酌彼金罍，维以不永怀！我姑酌彼兕觥，维以不永伤！”

小六披衣起来，走到廊下，璟从花圃中站起，定定地看着他。

明媚灿烂的阳光，勃勃生机的鲜花，还有一位君子，如金如锡、如圭如璧，一切都赏心悦目，令人欢喜。

Xiao Liu put on a robe and walked out to the corridor. Jing stood up in the courtyard and looked steadily at him. 

The bright warm sun, the vibrant flowers, and there was a gentleman, such as gold, such as tin, such as jades; everything was pleasing to the eye and made people happy. 

小六走到璟面前，微笑着轻叹：“我姑酌彼金罍，维以不永怀！我姑酌彼兕觥，维以不永伤！”从死到生，让我姑且放纵一下吧，那些悲伤的事情就不想了 

Xiaoliu walked up to Jing, smiled and sighed softly: "...." from death to life, let me indulge for a while and forget about those sad things 

These 4 sentences were quoted from 2 poems in the Classic Poetry

卷耳 2  

陟彼崔嵬,                  Riding up to the rocky mountain
我马虺隤。             But the horse was too fatigued to ride upward.
我姑酌彼金櫑  ,    I just poured wine from that golden bottle,
维以不永怀。        Drink it to avoid missing forever

卷耳 3  

陟彼高冈，            I want to climb that high mountain
我马玄黄。           But the horse was too exhausted to move foward
我姑酌彼兕觥，I only pour wine into a cup made of rhino* horn
维以不永伤。      Drink it to avoid suffering forever

(*): the wine cup was made of the horn of a fairy animal which is a kind of green wild bull but has only 1 horn (it is often thought as female rhino), weights thounsand kilograms. That rhino horn is green color. Thus the cup looked similar to green jade.

The two poems means:

She said again that she wanted to go up that high rocky mountain to look forward to the one who she missed, but the horse was too tired and couldn't climb up. Thus, she had to drink wine so that she wouldn't have to miss him forever.

Haha, it hinted that XY chose XL from the begining. However, it seemed that the road was too difficult and she decided to forget him. Did she mean she got drunk (deceived herself) and take the wine with the luxury containers - Jing. It seems so since the wine containers (bottle, cup) were made of precious material that she used to express her impression of Jing. Therefore, Jing  was considered as alternative to avoid missing XL and avoid suffering the pain from parting him

Note: 

[1], [2] According to these websites, the poem 卷耳 consists of 4 individual sub-poems the lines in chapter 6 belong to the number 2 and 3.

However, [3] puts all 4 parts into a poem. Below is the full poem (with 4 parts)

卷耳

采采卷耳，不盈顷筐。
嗟我怀人，寘彼周行。
陟彼崔嵬，我马虺隤。
我姑酌彼金櫑，维以不永怀。
陟彼高冈，我马玄黄。
我姑酌彼兕觥，维以不永伤。
陟彼砠矣，我马瘏矣。
我仆痡矣，云何吁矣！

明媚灿烂的阳光，勃勃生机的鲜花，还有一位君子，如金如锡、如圭如璧，一切都赏心悦目，令人欢喜。

In Tushan's courtyard after Tushanjing saved him. There is a man of honor: like gold ,like lead, like Gui ,like Jade. everything is pleasing to the eye and makes people happy. There was a bandit, who was like gold, like lead, like gui, like jade. Derived from "Guo Feng Wei Feng- Qi'ao", which means: Graceful Master, a true man, as hard as a bronze vessel, and as dignified as a jade vessel. Here it is established that Tu Shanjing's whole person has an imperial demeanor.

Edit: These words are also taken from poetry.