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Whaaaaat?

Let's get straight into it.
BNW is a big pile of doodoo. Whatever they're trying to achieve is lost in a stale and inconsistent storyline. Now the only interesting things were the mind reading and existence of the alternate world. There were factors that spoiled what could've been a unique story. Factors being bad acting, unrealized plot and irritating main and side characters.

Noeul has not grown as an actor. Like the LITA cast, they are stuck at that level with no maturity besides the added years. Noeul is basically acting the same role - innocent and clueless. Boss being the exception was the only reason to reach this far. They do nc scenes well which is a poor selling point as actors who are not in the porn industry. Admittedly, there is a level of comfort between them that some others don't have. Side characters aside, Noeul's delivery of his lines are part of his character but really irritating to hear. Phu slept with Cir twice before running away confused about his feelings which only resolves after Cir got in an accident. One word, boring. What was this incessant need to keep repeating their names? The tally of this might account for half the script.

Cir, in the alternate world (dream world unconsciousness) meets the previous version of himself and learns the reason of the past lives. Their endings have not been happy. He's trapped there until Phu cries out his deep love for him and only then is he returned to his physical body. Here's where it gets tricky. The Cir that Noeul loves has a scar on forehead. The other Cir does not. So does the scar disappear and materialize depending on which version of Cir's consciousness inhabits the body? Make it make sense. Even at the end there is no explanation for this inconsistency.

It is revealed that Cir has been his protector and stalker for a few years which leaves to beg, why the pretense? Phu seems to be a kind hearted gentle neurotic soul and would have accepted him, so why the pretense. If this is to protect from his mother, why did he eventually contact him? The deal with his mother was one final year of freedom before joining the company. Why contact Phu when the relationship had a deadline? To confuse him more?

Phu meets Cir's unwanted fiancé, gets slapped, is saved by Cir who rebuffs all the parties that caused their meeting and is taken away to safety. Directly after, whilst sitting in the apartment, Phu asks Cir if he has met with the fiancé and how did it go? 😳 My confusion level had me thinking that I probably napped here. Was Cir not next to him when the fiancé show down happened, so what is he asking here? Was there a telepathic meeting the viewer didn't see? Inconsistent and poor editing. Throughout the series there have been other repetitive nonsensical conversations, but this being the most glaring.

Genuine question here, do all female side characters have to sound like harpies? Why can't they be seen as even tempered beautiful women? They are either physically aggressive, delusional or erratic. Can't this be banished and more multilayered characters be written? This would be a welcomed change. Though it was great to see his Phu's friends so protective of him except that one idiot.

Now to the mind reading. Unless I've missed it, it's not clear how Jin acquired the ability to do so. It is interesting and since meeting Wim, he has liked him and still was able to use it. When he confesses to him, it's suddenly lost. So verbalizing his thoughts took them away and he is like everyone else, guessing his way through the relationship. Wim, the most polarizing character with his incessant need to speak, doesn't believe him. Upon confirmation from Cir, he is willing to be let Jin in. Honestly, their story would have been more entertaining that what this was. Nine episodes of lies, and one full of repetitive declarations.

Cir's mother is displayed as deranged and despicable. Now, we see why Cir needs an alternate universe to survive. The solution to her wanting to trade one property for another is not met with a white padded room and restraints but entertained. The fiancé, what was her motive to marry someone who clearly despised her? Money? On meeting her intended mother in law, any sane person would refuse. Conclusion: they all need the white padded room and restraints.

This series left me wanting more than just great nc scenes. The plot needed to be tightened, the acting upgraded and the characters likeable. This was 10 episodes of boring, unimaginative lies and unlikeable characters save Jin and Ramil. Will not be re-watching. Once is more than enough.

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Melting Me Softly was such an awesome drama. I was completely rooting for Mi Ran and Dong Chan the whole way through. What was especially great about them was how simple they are, they haven't got that super complicated : "we can't be together, you can't like me and I can't like you so I'm going to push you away" thing that goes on in some dramas. This was a very nice change. They went after what they wanted the whole way through and, in my opinion, there is no better way. The plot too was really cool. I thoroughly enjoyed the idea of frozen humans and their unique journey as they came into the modern world. The ending was really good too, everything was tied up nicely and the main characters had the happy ending they deserved. I think Melting Me Softly has been severely underappreciated and underrated. It was great. Truly great. Don't let anyone's bad reviews stop you from watching. This goes for all of the dramas out there. One man's trash is another man's treasure after all. Enjoy watching!

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SURELY TOMORROW

I am so glad I found this thread because for all twelve episodes, I felt like I was being gaslighted into thinking that the FL and the ML are not inside a toxic, emotionally abusive relationsship.

I mean broken FLs are mostly adorable but to make this FL depressed, abused child, druggie, suicidal, got married to a random drug addict, and ghosts the ML for the stupidest reasons and then comes back when it's convenient, does not give the ML anything but only recieves, letting the ML suspend his life just to help her with all her problems? Now they're trying to redeem the woman in an episode or two?

I mean what kind of person leaves a man twice with the shallowest excuses. And the writer really thought ahe would still be loveable. Most of the audiences are women and more than half of them had been trapped in abusive relationships that they worked so hard to get out of.

And to use the talented Park Seo Jun to gaslight the audience into thinking that this is a fated and healthy relationship. I mean PSJ, I know his character in Gyeongseong creature effectively longed for the FL for 75 years but it was an effin fantasy. This one is supposed to be built on reality. What with all the celibate MLs?

And please don't say that Gyeongdo chose to be a virgin since college because that's what the show has inferred. Is it biplogically, physically, emotionally possible for any man to do that?

And don't get me started with the FL, where is the damn shame? Leaving a man crying his heart out with alcoholism. And she didn't know it will affect him when she left just when he needed her while his father is in the hospital? She's the poster girl for emotional abuse and I don't like that she is the heroine of thia story, not the villain who the ML needs to move on from to find his true love.

And to add insult to injury, she is now the one pining and chasing on the ML right after she got dumped. Typical manipulative moves of a narciccist when her supply tries to leave her.

I mean, does the writer even read up about narcs and abusive behaviour? Surely she is well-read. And surely she researched this character.

I mean Gyeongdo was doing fine in Malaga and has no plans to return just yet. The writer then k*lls off the friend who stayed with the ML all those years he was recovering from the stonewalling he got from the FL. Mind you, Choi Woo Shik is the name of Park Seo Jun's best friend in real life. No wonder PSJ's acting was personal in the funeral scene. This writer is demented.

The friends and parents are all enablers for letting their loved one still have a relationshop with this FL. Even in the ending, Gyeongdo agreed when the FL said he might not want kids because he is afraid they will end up like her.

I am uncontrollably irked right now at the sheer st*upidity of the story. And how unbelievable PSJ accepted the script. Is the FL the kind of woman you want your friend or family to end up with? I hope not. All his other characters were kick-ass.

FL sucks the life out of Gyeongdo and when she's around Gyeongdo loses his dreams. His Malaga scenes looked really good even if he is practically a broke waiter because there is no FL baggage that he is suspending his life for. It is the FLs dramas he had to take a break from not his own.

What I am mad about is for the FLs behaviour to be dismissed as cute and healthy. Isn't kdrama supposed to give us life lessons? She is a glaring example of narciccism, c'mon.

I really hope PSJ learns from this and become more discerning of the scripts he chooses. Right now people are calling his character a door mat, and the more he sacrifices for the FL, the more it is interpreted negatively. Not all sacrificial love are healthy. Some are toxic and harmful.

Whenever I see the FL pouting on screen because she didn't get her way, I want to go punch a wall. All her struggles are mostly self-inflicted. She makes decisions without even caring what Gyeongdo will feel because he will still be there when she gets back anyway.

I hope instead this kdrama becomes a warning to women and also to men to learn how to recognize abuse when they see it, detach, and move on accordingly with a healthy partner.

Seo Ji Woo had no business getting into a relationship when what she needed was therapy.

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Loved it, Loved it Loved it! I could end my review there, but there is so much more about this series that I want to say. Spoiler restrictions prevent me from saying about 80% of what I, otherwise, would write, so I will comply. It's a story about hard times that, through a stroke of good luck, ill will, nefarious dealings, buckle-down hard work and even wilder twists on a well-worn theme, eventually turns out to be a morality tale that we all can be edified by.

Our Hero strives to survive under the harsh circumstance of misfortune due to his unknown parentage through hard work in the street-stall marketplace among the merchants who have adopted him as one among their 'family'. This allows him to escape the certainty of a life of crime which would have inevitably lead to his early demise. At a time he thought he had shaken the grip of the street's vicious hand, a calamity, which had nothing to do with him becomes at once the opening of a whole new world of wealth and power, as well as, a slippery path leading to his own destruction. Any lesser man would have succumbed early to the lure set before him to facilitate his fall, but not our Hero.

Love interests in conflict with his self-realized moral code, traps laid by apparent benefactors, breaches of trust at every turn and plot twists (just to keep the storyline moving) incite, invigorate and initiate --cue the fanfare-- his own unrelenting will to overcome, succeed and thrive. The odds stacked against him were indeed overwhelming, but for him, 1% is enough of a formidable alternative to the 99% of certain doom and becomes the underdog's best case scenario. Our Hero comes through with flying colors; bloody but unbowed, battered but unbroken, bruised but unbeaten.

'Big Man' reminds me of dramas I've seen before, but the portrayal the lead Actor puts in, blows ALL the others away. This was running as a currently scheduled program airing at the time I first came across it. But, as is my habit, I refused to watch until most of the episodes were posted at my favorite streaming drama venue so that I could marathon it. This is the best way to consume a series of this length so that the ep-to-ep continuity goes uninterrupted.

Action, drama, comedy, Love story, big business intrigue, seedy underworld criminal perfidy, this one has it all and never skimps on any constituent ingredient. Watch 'Big Man' and you'll agree with me, walking away after the final credits roll, saying,"Loved it, Loved it, Loved it!"; At which time, you may quote me on that...

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Simplistic symbolism and how being a teenager is actually hard.

A rare case when my brain sees all the flaws, but my heart says: I don’t care. The whole show has a great juvenile charm to it, and the sloppy storytelling and in your face symbolism just adds to it. Sure, I strongly believe that with a few different directing choices this could easily become one of the best BL shows up to date, but even as it is right now, it’s truly enjoyable.

Yes, the setup on the surface is painfully stupid. We are sold the story of this abusive authoritarian school and students fighting for their rights, but what is presented is 3 students not wanting to wear uniforms. Is it that simple? No. It was never about uniforms, it was about self expression and more accurately sexuality.

The uniforms and the rules were supposed to represent the norm in terms of sexuality. Following the rules in school meant following social norms. Suppressing your sexuality to fit with what was established and deemed as "normal". The whole show is a commentary on the conservative and outdated ideas and how they harm the youth. It’s a great subject with a idea on how to present it, but not as good of an execution.

The storytelling was not detailed enough. We are presented with a wall of rules that were established, yet we actually know about only two. What are the others? No idea. What consequences are the students facing if they break the rules? No idea. There is the curse, but that’s it. Where are the parents? The whole adult side of the show is ridiculously unbelievable.

On the other hand, it made perfect sense why the teens were being “overdramatic” - they are teens. Suppression of individuality at the time when it's most crucial to figure yourself out is not really a small thing. The Eclipse did a great job to make me sympathize with the issues these kids were facing and how big of an impact it has on them. From the point of view of an adult, my initial reaction was: why are they so dramatic? Just be patient for the next few months, graduate and move on. But that type of thinking is the issue - if they are told to follow the rules and not question anything now, how will they learn to fight for their rights later? Their actions as teens will shape their behavior, motivations, personalities later on. Nothing really changes as you grow up. First you are told to do what your teachers say, later you are told to listen to your professors. Then you need to follow your bosses instructions. That’s why it’s so important for the youth to ask questions, debate, reflect on the problems and issues and not just do what adults tell them.

For the characters, the leads were phenomenal - both in the writing and portrayal. Seeking validation and purpose. Sticking to the role one obsesses over, because it feels like it's the only thing that defines who we are. The fear of being seen as disappointment. The drama also touches on the subjects of depression and suicide. How we should not judge one’s struggles based on our own standards. How we should be patient with others, because we cannot know and truly understand what they are going through.

What I appreciated the most was the takes on coming out and accepting your sexuality. It’s not the “I don’t like guys, I only like you”. It’s not “everyone is either gay or loves gay”. None of the unrealistic scenarios here. It often takes time to figure yourself out, it takes time to accept what you find, it takes time to then admit it to others. In that aspect I could not like the relationship between Akk and Ayan more. Not to mention one of the best on screen chemistry I have seen in ages.

For the acting, I've been a fan of Khaotung for some time. Realistically speaking, he is one of the best that Thai BLs can offer. I rewatched some scenes simply because of his performance. Thank god First was cast as his co-star, also delivering a solid portrayal.

Production wise I don’t really have complaints. I think some of the setup and directing ideas were too big for the production team, which led to a few questionable and ridiculous takes, but damn the show was pretty.

Overall, I liked it a lot. Yes, the setup and the way they decided to present some serious issues was questionable, but I still believe it was better than the majority of BLs out there. The biggest problem was the transition from rules at school being the issues, to how they relate to the overall social norms and homophobia - it was too jarring. You get the idea behind it all, but you still feel like it’s a bit too disconnected from each other.

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Absolutely worth the watch

As someone else has already mentioned, this isn’t a fluffy or cute show, that’s true. Maybe down the line it will be a little lighter, but right now it’s a bit intense. Even with only two episodes out, the tension between You Shu Lang and Fan Xiao is already so addictive. Their dynamic is messy, complicated, and honestly kind of thrilling to watch.

The chemistry works without being forced. The characters already feel layered, with hidden sides that make every interaction unpredictable. The visuals are cinematic, the vibe is dramatic but grounded, and the story has a quiet tension that makes it hard to stop watching. I’d suggest waiting until more episodes have aired, because some people tend to enjoy shows or get the full experience of a show better that way.

I’m definitely sticking around to see how their relationship develops, this one’s already way more compelling than I expected.

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What a powerful and touching drama - I love Prince Sado now <3

Story: Based on the true story of King Yeongju & Prince Sado - a powerful display of rulers who think differently - The king cherishes power and authority over humanity and the Prince desires equality for everyone - from children of traitors, slaves, concubines and commoners. We see him come head to head with his father countless times - and I'd cheer him on every time. If you read the history of these two (which I recommend you don't) then you'll know it will be a bittersweet end. But even so, even if I did cry a bucket of tears, the end still left me hopeful of a better future to come ;)

Cast: Prince Sado (Lee Je Hoon) the son of King Yeongju (Han Seok Kyu) a honest and righteous prince with enduring principals - if he believed something was wrong he wouldn't ignore it - He has my respect for that, when some people would cave - he never did, he stood his ground even if he had to suffer immensely for it - he earned trust of his "followers" and the viewers <3 Plus he is handsome to boot^^ His eyes would captivate me when he'd speak - and the emotions displayed there were magical <3 King Yeongju a political terror if I may say so - he didn't blink if he killed someone or did wrong things - he fought tooth and nail with his son throughout the entire drama - he'd make me really mad most all the time and sometimes his discussions early on drove me up the wall - but the actor really did well in displaying his love/hate for his son. Seo Ji Dam (Kim Yoo Jung) I liked her while she lasted for 13 episodes (the older version I could care less about so I won't even mention her) she was great when she was Sado's sidekick and helped him out. When she's "older" she's just kind of there... Lady Hye Gyeong (Park Eun Bin) I didn't like her when the drama started but as time passed she grew on me and I could see the love she had for Sado (even though her love for power would sometimes speak louder). Shin Heung Bok (Seo Jun Yeong) he had a guest role when the drama started but he became the reason Sado & his father came head to head with each other - even though his time was short - he left a deep impact. The rest of the cast did a splendid job in their roles too ;)

Music: "Erase and Erase" by The One (my favorite) & ??? by Block B

Re-watch Value: 8/10 It's very political but really draws you in - so I will re-watch this again someday - even if only to see Lee Je Hoon (Prince Sado)'s eyes <3 I LOVED his deep dark eyes - they pulled me in every time ;D

I highly recommend anyone who likes historical or political dramas to check this one out - you won't regret it ;)

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To me, this show was unwatchably bad. I went into it expecting some mindless romantic fun (which is a great thing, don't get me wrong). I expected melodrama, hammy acting, one-dimensional characters, etc. Unfortunately, it was like watching a bad, anti-feminist cartoon.

The only (ONLY) likable characters were the dog and Han Dong Jie. Seriously, that is it. The male lead is a self-centered sociopath that treats people, even his supposed love, like trash - even after he "reforms" and the actor portarying him constantly grimaces like a cartoon villain. The female lead, while initially likeable, seems to have no real personal goals, is incredibly immature, and allows herself and her younger brother to be (rather obviously) abused and manipulated. What is more, if she is really interested in family, love, and caring - she chooses the wrong guy by a mile!! The "Aunt" and "Uncle" come off like children. How do they even function in the world? Can they even tie their shoes?? The Grandfather (the second villain of the piece) is inconsistant. He comes off by turns as greedy, heartless jerk and a simpering fool. I just do not believe that any of them have any busienss sense at all. How did they become rich? Sure, he stole a popular formula, but how could these morons run a business? The cousin is just a second thought character that is never really developed or explored. It is too bad, because he could have been likable. The Granny's life story makes absolutely no sense. She knows a guy for a few months, nurses him, and falls desperately in love with him, but when he leaves her she makes no attempt to find him or contact him. Then she marries someone else, has his babies, etc., but never mentions or thinks about her actual husband, because she is too busy pining for a jerk that stole her family's recipe? BTW, why did she never hear about the stolen pill and then sue the pants off of the wealthy family? None of this makes sense at all, and the Granny's sanity and values are seriosuly questionable, since chooses to risk her life for a watch rather than be there for her grandkids.

Beyond all of this, the show treats herbal medicine like magic. While there are some merits to alternative medicinal practice; it isn't magic and a certified doctor is better to treat major illness than a girl raised in the woods by a love-obessed old lady that never thought to pick up a phone book to look for her long lost love.

If you want to watch idiots and terrible characters make selfish choices, abuse eachother, and degrade the concepts of family and love, this is the show for you. If not, then stay well away. Blech.

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I have no idea why I thought this drama was going to be a Chinese version of “Goong” one of my fav manwha turned drama. This really reminded me of Inuyasha, maybe a little romeo and Juliet. Anyway this a really pleasant historical treat. As you have already read the synopsis, this drama is packed with plotting (come on the are in a palace), love triangles, misunderstandings and trickery.
The working theory is that this chick goes back in time, inuyasha style, bringing modern ideas and a knowledge of how history will play out. I really enjoyed how the main female lead was head strong the whole time, and how she was inventive. I also really liked how it showed the two main characters loving each other and spending time together. This is one of the very first times I have ever seen a lead couple trust and be completely honest with each other- I thought it was wonderful. Get ready for a lot of overacting, fake laughter, bad hair pieces, backstabbing and just melodrama. The acting was poor for most characters but the main actors seemed to nail it.
No matter how much I liked the leading couple the plots were essentially the same as all other historical dramas. The palace maids are shady, the eunuchs need bribing and all of the concubines are scheming to get their kids ahead of the rest. The female lead kind of got annoying with her flawless trust in everyone who shook her hand getting her into situations where she nearly dies. I mean really how many times can you fall for the same tricks?
At anyrate this drama is long but it has some cool fights, and keeps you interested because it seems to move at a good pace. I only really had to skip 4 episodes and it had a really good ending that makes you want to know more. There is a lot of romance and not a lot of comedy, but it wasn’t very dark themed. Take some time and watch when you have a chance.
p.s. the lip syncing on all of the songs was just God awful- i mean really!!?
p.p.s. the fighting was really fake looking too.

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To be honest had higher expectation and currently its not meeting it! Finally like at episode 18 he confesses his love!!! It was driving me nuts that the first 15 episodes, was contemplating on dropping. I mean its only 24 episodes....

Male lead is cute but i find he is kinda slow to relationship and doesnt like to show that he likes the female lead. I mean you can just straight tell her. Female lead , is also very slow to relationships , and to be honesty nothing of her personality really stands out besides the fact that she is super strong and was once a tomboy. Thus causing the male lead to think that the person he had a crush on when he was young was a boy but it was the female lead with short hair. I kinda of find it hard to believe that if that was your crush you dont find out their name and if they are actually a boy or girl? Fast forward They meet again in University , and finally through various occasion he finds out that , she's a girl. She also has liked him for a long time. They just never had the guts to tell each other. The first 16 episodes I would summarize as "I like you but Im not brave enough to tell you face to face, not sure if you like me, miscommunications....

Others:
Second male lead is hot!!! but a playboy character. His character hopefully will change due to the female lead's best friend ( aka second female lead(
THird female is second male lead's cousin and she is a stuck up bitch, who has two faces to her. She's in love with the male lead because they grew up together. They both play piano together. she's initially a bitch but changes for the better.

Fingers crossed it will get better fast !!!!

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One of the most illogical romance ever

This drama just proves that the writer has never been in a relationship or in love before.

The first season started off well with the introduction of an interesting-but-yet-realistic creation of a love alarm app along with the infusion of aesthetic visual elements and the intriguing storyline stemming from the mystery of the missing creator of the app, Duk Gu. Hwang Sun Oh and Kim JoJo were made to be the main leads in this season. Despite the interesting storyline, the puppy love was undeniably weak and unconvincing. I simply couldn’t understand why Sun Oh and Jo Jo were attracted to each other. It made Jo Jo looked like an indecisive cheater. She had a boyfriend but she liked Sun Oh. Their chemistry never made sense because she couldn’t reason out why she liked Sun Oh and it completely didn’t even make sense as to why she decided to end the relationship with Sun Oh when she actually liked him. She ended the relationship by using the shield that Duk Gu gave her exclusively to download in order to lie to Sun Oh that she never liked him. It hurt Sun Oh as he did not understand the reason why it happened that way and he never got proper closure. Perhaps that’s the essence of puppy love. Nevertheless, I shipped the two because the director wanted it that way. At the end of the first season, Duk Gu was hinted to be alive, Sun Oh having a new girlfriend he did not love and Hye Hyeong courting Jo Jo. The episode ended with Sun Oh’s new girlfriend ringing her alarm for Sun Oh while Sun Oh and Hye Hyeong ringing their alarms for JoJo; signifying the love triangle. Jo Jo’s alarm didn’t ring because of the shield that conceals her feelings which was why she later desperately wanted it to be removed and was so obsessed with the findings of missing Duk Gu.

Season 2 made the whole storyline went downhill. We expect the drama and jealousy of the second leads arising from Jo Jo being honest with Sun Oh. However, that wasn’t the case. In season 2, Jo Jo decided to give Hye Hyeong a chance by giving the relationship a try even tho she did not like him. She flinched when Hye Hyeong kissed her at the beginning but let Sun Oh kissed her in the later part. This shows how confused, indecisive, and needy Jo Jo was. She looked like a lonely and needy girl that that didn’t mind dating a guy she did not like. In this season, you are going to be confused as to who you are going to ship because Hye Hyeong became the male lead of this season with greater screen time. Sun Oh became the second lead and the screenwriter decided to make Sun Oh a fool who was drunk in his family’s situation. Perhaps the screenwriter wanted to explain that his obsession for closure with Jo Jo was due to the ill relationship between his parents. In this season, Jo Jo is desperately trying to find Duk Gu so she can have her shield removed, be honest with her own feelings, and hope to ring her future boyfriend’s alarm. I thought the reason that Jo Jo wanted to have the alarm removed because she has always wanted to reunite with Sun Oh by being true to him. Because she was always triggered whenever she bumped into Sun Oh. But no, she wanted to get it removed because of Hye Hyeong. She wanted to use it to ring Hye Hyeong’s alarm so that Hye Hyeong will know how she feels about him. The ending was evident that Jo Jo chose Hye Hyeong and Sun Oh going back to his ex-girlfriend. This storyline is basically telling viewers that as long as you make an effort to love someone who loves you and treats you right, you will love them eventually. Sounds illogical right?

I waited almost 2 years for season 2 because I was curious if Duk Gu had actually taken his life because of a rejection. It hinted that he was alive. I thought the revelation of his disappearance was going to be way more interesting in season 2. Turns out that he has been hospitalized for 4 years and his brother was the one running his love alarm app business. Duk Gu later woke up and gave Jo Jo an armour to download so she could ring Hye Hyeong’s alarm. Yea I just wasted my time on season 2.

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FUNNY , CUTE

Story - Simple story with recognized GMMTV actors . There are so many scenes which were so funny and cute .

Visuals - Always great .

Cinematography - Top tier .

Music - Background music is not funny at all but annoying .

Acting - Great cast with super cool acting .

Room for Improvement- This series is same as We Are from GMMTV. They should change same types of school engineering/ medical BL series and try some new story.

Schedule - Schedule for broadcasting of this drama is definitely not good . They should air two episodes per week instead of one episode which will take six months . We have definitely not that much patience .

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