Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao’s Story and Romance

 liddi:

No. This scene only shows that Jing Ye thought he was being charitable. She didn't know that there was an agreement between Jing and Xiang Liu to take Xiao Yao from her wedding in return for 37 years of provisions.

 liddi:

Tushan Jing quietly wrote two words on the paper: 忠义 Loyalty and Righteousness

 liddi:

Tushan Jing lifted the brush stunned, but did not reply.

Showing TSJ writing these words and then having him be "stunned" in response to Jing Ye's question seems like it's trying to convey (misleadingly) to the viewer that TSJ was at least partly motivated by respect for the remnant army and that he was acting charitably, instead of simply doing what he promised to do. 

Edit: To clarify, I'm not suggesting that *I* think TSJ was motivated by respect or acting charitably based on these scenes. I'm saying I'm miffed because it feels like the writers are trying to paint TSJ's actions as selfless when they weren't. 

About all these leaks that Liddi has been so wonderfully diligent in translating for us (thank you Liddi, 100000 times!!), has anything else been said about them since they were...you know, leaked? It's been quite a while since they popped up and I was wondering if there have been any new developments.

 nathsketch:

About all these leaks that Liddi has been so wonderfully diligent in translating for us (thank you Liddi, 100000 times!!), has anything else been said about them since they were...you know, leaked? It's been quite a while since they popped up and I was wondering if there have been any new developments.

The new development is that they came to their sense and decided to re film season 2 with the extra year....

 liddi:

In the script, he does understand the reason for their struggles and is later shown to respect it as well.

I wouldn't mind it if they added things to show that he understood the remnant army's struggle and respected it. That's fine. But I don't like how they've done it in this scene because it feels like they're trying to portray that understanding and respect as part of the reason why he sent the provisions to them. It feels like giving credit where credit isn't due. 

 MengXiang:

I find the drama does allot more expositional dialogue of what the novel is about. In this case it is spelling out that he is clearly in love but being mean pushing her and she is buying it and sadly not facing into her feelings... She is hurt but because she clearly likes him and in denial.

I feel this way too. Same with the "rejection" on the beach.

But the Jingers will have a field day with this. They already cannot wrap their heads around the fact that XY loves both XL and Jing. You've probably already seen their comments: it's only one-sided, she's only friends with him, she only has romantic feelings for Jing, she only acts girly with Jing. 

Every time a war breaks out is because of one of two things: either someone points out that Jing's character appears to be weak (he does appear that way, I'm sorry), or because a Jinger says that XY only loves Jing.

If things are spelled out like this, with this whole "you never cared for me/I have no feelings for you", it's game over. Making an effort to read between the lines and grasp the hidden meanings of this story is not really their forte. Except when it comes to flowers. They love analyzing flowers.

 AH :

I wouldn't mind it if they added things to show that he understood the remnant army's struggle and respected it. That's fine. But I don't like how they've done it in this scene because it feels like they're trying to portray that understanding and respect as part of the reason why he sent the provisions to them. It feels like giving credit where credit isn't due. 

It was his payment. He made used what he knew what XL needed most as payment. That's very calculating in nature. 

That reminds me of the leaked scene where XY was upset about her identity he explains to XY the meaning behind the extra notes XL put on the pattern. It gives him the credit in the sense where the credit isn't due.. 

 MengXiang:

The new development is that they came to their sense and decided to re film season 2 with the extra year....

LOL

But I didn't even get the chance to storm Tencent's offices haha

 MengXiang:

I find the drama does allot more expositional dialogue of what the novel is about. In this case it is spelling out that he is clearly in love but being mean pushing her and she is buying it and sadly not facing into her feelings... She is hurt but because she clearly likes him and in denial. 

Where they took things that were XY's internal thoughts in the novel and turned them into external dialogue, I'm generally okay with that. I get that it's necessary for the medium. 

 MengXiang:

@AH

Why don't you like these changes at all?

But for those changes that I quoted, I'm not a fan of them at all because they aren't consistent with the novel and they're so harsh. 

First, XY originally thought that XL and FFB were totally different, but later realized they were the same. FFB was just XL without his armor and commitment to the remanent army. 

And even if it's a blatant lie, I hate that they decided to make both of them say directly that they don't care for each other. It hurts to read it and it will hurt to hear it. 

The closest dialogue I can think of from the novel is when XL lies and tells XY that he only saved her / cared about ensuring that she didn't die in chapter 43 because he doesn't want to die (because of the bug connection) if she dies. But XL had to give her an explanation that wouldn't make her think that he cared about her (since he was trying to push her away and make her believe that he didn't care about her). So he had a good reason for saying what he said. These added lines can't be justified in the same way.