Trouble-chan

Yup, that would be my no.1 choice every.single.time. <3<3

Sadly at the moment you can't, Baillie. Until the uncut DVD is released there is no way to see it and, so far, the chinese censors are being deliberately slow in the release of the uncut dvd because the filmmakers are insistent on including the happy ending. Someone told me they've heard it's due for release on 28th October - but whether that happens, or just becomes another in a long list of promised release dates that get missed, is anyone's guess. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news....but blame lies ENTIRELY with the chinese censors. :(

Thanks for that tip, Neyjour. :D I probably won't watch this one then as the Chinese ones rarely end happily. Thanks again for that tip though. :)

Agreed and I did think that Nakai Masahiro was exceptionally good as Ataru; I'd love to see him reprise the role; especially now he's effectively 'alone'. I do believe he felt that Madoka was the only one who understood him.

You are right about the savantism being 'put to use'; I don't know why they always do that. I have to say I LOATHED the wheelchair woman for the way she treated him and the way she looked down on him - but expected HERSELF to be treated like everyone else.

Oh no, likewise - I was just trying to say I wasn't talking rubbish and did have some knowledge of autism. So we're good. :)

Well, that's your opinion which are of course entitled to. I still enjoyed it and would love to see another one. Still, if we all liked the same thing the world would be unbearably boring.

Oh and I wasn't preaching; just saying I did have a point of reference out here in the real world for my own take on his autism.

It's on youtube now too -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGEl_juvBPI

Likewise - by the end of the last episode I really loathed Himura. But even Kamon was just too weak and you ended up wanting to slap her. I think stopping it at episode 8 would've better for everyone, especially those of us watching it.

He loved her; just that. Autistic people have feelings even if they can't always relate to them properly - so for him, Madoka was his first love (just as he was hers) hence why he would've followed her and she KNEW that - that was why HIS gun had no bullets.

I think in his own way Ataru also resented Larry - Larry was responsible for separating he and Madoka; Larry was responsible for Madoka becoming what she was. So he's not really Larry's best pal. Ultimately he was also responsible for Madoka ending up the way she did and so I have no doubt that if they'd made another movie, Ataru would've been VERY distant from Larry compared to Maiko and Shunichi.

One of my daughter's best friends has Asperger's Syndrome (a mild form of autism). I am a very demonstrative person and, when she was going through some tough times, I was very huggy as I really felt bad for her. My daughter told me she didn't like being touched; so of course I apologised - but she said "it's you; so it's okay."

It seems with some people they like and, MOST importantly, feel comfortable with, whilst they rarely make eye contact autistic people ARE capable of showing affection and ARE okay about some touching. Looking back, she did used to hug me too - not tightly or anything, but she'd pat my back. :) She told my daughter she knew I was just offering her comfort because I was sad she was upset; she said she was touched I wanted to comfort her the same way I would my daughter.

So I think Ataru is the same - in a more complicated case of autism admittedly. But he still feels, he still loves............and he can still dislike. I would love to see Nakai Masahiro reprise his role as Ataru, and witness how he deals with his grief and also Larry. I mean he truly NAILED the autistic characterisations, he also made Ataru such a complicated character but so lovable too. To see him deal with Larry and come to terms with being (perhaps in his own mind at least) alone now - THAT would be brilliant.

I'm truly hoping your just trolling because to think that way is really sad. I grew with a pathological liar for a father who was also a serial womaniser and who's behaviour was so horrible, my mum (who remained true to him until the day she died) finally had her health break and died much too early. I was raped by an ex-boyfriend AND beaten by him - BUT I do not blame all men because of my father and my ex. My own father in law was a controlling bully, but my husband - who I've never even THOUGHT of cheating on - is a wonderful husband and father who I do my best not to take for granted. I KNOW that not all men are lying, cheating scumbags who delight in torturing the people they claim to love. Likewise not all women are like the one in this movie. I am ugly, I admit and my health could be better - so perhaps I go more for the person inside than a vacuous person only interested in themselves; but I've been very lucky to have my husband and I tell him that every day and always do my best to ensure I don't add to whatever burdens he carries - I NEVER tell him when I'm having bad days and always try to smile and make jokes of any pain I'm in.

So, please, remember NOT all women are evil; just like I know not all men are. But, if you've been badly hurt by a woman to make you think this way, then I'm sorry - no one deserves that; but her loss. Don't let her ruin your life; she cannot have been worth whatever heartache you suffered. I know my ex and my father aren't. The only reason I keep in contact with the latter is he is my father and I promised my late mum who still worried about him literally until the day she died. Personally I count my blessings every day that I married a good and loving man. I genuinely hope you can move on one day and find happiness - don't let whoever hurt you win; she's NOT worth it.

Is this from China? I'm asking as I know all their BL ALWAYS ends with a tragic outcome - so not sure if I'll bother if it's Chinese.......really don't need to keep kleenex in business any more than I already do. I'd rather wait for Japanese/Thai BLs which often do have happy endings.

Oh yeah, definitely the case with the Chinese BL. However Thailand BL is the most open for happy endings, followed by Japan. :)

Right if you're sure - To those who might click on this - this is the HAPPY ENDING which is why I've ensured it's got the SPOILER box checked.

so Nian still leaves and gets into an accident; that doesn't change. However, in this ending he survives.....but he's crippled and disfigured. Xiao Yan still spends time trying to find him, around two years if I remember correctly. One day he's sitting on a bench reminiscing about what he's lost; and he sees this man pushing a wheelbarrow and limping along; the person also looks very skinny and weak (it's heartbreaking in the book). He takes time realising who it is, but when he does he rushes over and confronts him.

Nian is completely dumbfounded that Yan has found him. Yan kisses him and swears they'll never part again; even though Nian initially tries to tell him not to make such promises, to forget him and move on with his life. Yan won't listen and assures Nian that his love is true and hasn't faded - moreover that he's spent two long years looking for him. He gets Nian medical treatment and good food and takes care of him; making him a lot healthier.

However, Nian will never be the same as he was; he will always have a limp, always be scarred and always be sickly due to the accident. Still Yan loves him and looks after him, telling him he just wants him to stay by side; to go where he goes (as he told him after Nian was beaten up).... and so they stay together.....

You can see why this was the happy ending (bittersweet though it may be) and why the novel's fans were so RAGING this ending wasn't used. I LOVED this ending.......so much better than the awful sad one; I do so hope the censors relent and let it be released with the uncut video. what do YOU think of it? :)

There is a happy ending - do you want me to spoil it for you?

IF, and it's a big IF right now, the uncut dvd gets released with the happy ending then there are a multitude of BL and Chinese movie channels on Youtube promising to get it on there ASAP. Apart from uncut releases (IF HEs have been filmed) I am so done with Chinese BL now as we know it will NEVER contain a happy ending.....damn censors!

It's not released yet as the uncut dvd has still not been released by the censors. The makers are hopeful it will next month now.

I'll let you know. Us BL fans have to stick together right?

The Chinese government can make happy endings but they NEVER do for the LGBT dramas as they don't want to 'encourage that lifestyle choice as normal'. They prefer to promote the idea that being gay will mean your parents hate and disown you and/or LITERALLY die of shame, that you and/or your partner will also die from disease/murder/random act of violence/paper cut or stubbed toe and that whatever happens being gay, lesbian, bi or trans means you lead an miserable existence and are fated to die young and in agony. It sickens me that the they are still so deeply in the Dark Ages....

Yes there is but the censors didn't want the movie released with it in case (and I quote their statement) "Chinese teens see a happy outcome and think this kind of lifestyle is normal" - NEWSFLASH being gay IS normal; it is NOT a lifestyle choice. Some of the comments on this movie with the sad ending on youtube cannot be repeated; what doesn't help is it looks like the censors are now deliberately dragging their feet on the release of the dvd because not only will it be uncut, but the filmmakers are insisting it contain the happy ending as they promised fans it would.......

The novel has a happy ending - the Chinese censors will not let that happen by allowing a 3rd part......so it's been banned from making any more parts in China. Unless another, more LGBT tolerant country remakes it, we'll never see the end of the book on film. SUCH a SHAME.

Ah thanks for that - I haven't been checking; I will definitely move it to the top of my 'binge-watch' list as it's a fairly short series. Thanks again for the update. :)